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Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 01:55 AM:

Re: Re: "WOW"!

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Originally posted by josh
I also see some education in the performance and SS program in Gradys future.

Did you not read were I am not in it for the money. I was just asking about the ss and performance. One litter won't make me go hungry one way or the other.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 02:11 AM:

You know why everyone thinks mules are sory animals. It is becouse most people breed a sorry mare to a sorry jack or a good mare to a sorry jack or a good jace to a sarry mare. Seldome does anyone breed a quality mare to a quality jack and put it in the hands of a good handler. When they do though that mule is worth more than the horse bred the same way. Becouse there are so few of them.
It just proves that if BOTH male and female are good gene pools then you will probubly come up with good animals.
Now if it did cross in the best way on this particular cross it would put better nerve in the walker from the bluetic and put a little more fire in the bluetic from the walker. WITCH WOULD HELP BOTH BREEDS...........

Posted by on 07-18-2010 04:35 PM:

Re: Re: "WOW"!

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Nothing better than a smart a....I take it you can't take a joke or know what LOL at the end of a sentence means. As much as you know about genetics it's a wonder yours aren't comming out speaking english. LOL
I guess you didn't catch the IF AND WHEN I breed those two either. Maybe you are just afraid if I put more fire in the bluetic gene pool yours might not look so good. LMAO

When you use "lol" after every sentence it's hard to know what your serious about & what your not !?! Mine already speak english so you'll need to move on to sumthin else"LOL" ?

Originally posted by Okie Dawg
The ones I keep I will single redester and win money in the money hunts. They will get tired of it. LOL

Read this statement above typed by you !!! I will & they will,sayin that's pretty cocky for someone that thinks they got it all figured out but has never raised a litter of Coonhounds to fruitation"LOL","OF COURSE"!

I personally don't care for much more "FIRE" than I'm already feedin & not to worried 'bout your "GradeDawg's" puttin the fear in anybody especially myself. Some of the "?'s" you ask do not seem to demonstrate the experienced thinkin one may expect from an expert like yourself"LOL"!

For your information I am but one person in a rather large collection that has been about & will continue to be about forward progression in my breed of choice as "PURE BRED'S". Like I said,don't be countin on registerin your gradedawg's as BLUETICK'S because by the time you'd get to the point of attempting it it may not be possable. Remember,it's not UKC's head nod that say's yes or no but the breed & it's voting membership the desides to allow in gradedawg's or not. I can tell you it is gettin harder & harder as it should be. "LOL"?

Now your already wantin to breed 8 month old pup's & think your gonna conker the competition world so that actually makes me wonder if you know anything about genetic's let alone slop cross' like that "LOL" ?

Not sayin there's nuttin wrong with "GradeDawg's" but your sadly mistakin if you think you got the cure all figured out! Do you actually hunt? I mean like more than maybe "A" night a week so the other's are reserved for bein on here ?"LMAO"!

As far as your mule reference,I alway's figured the animal can only be as smart as the person doin the learnin that brings it out of them. Of course there's things you need to be able to recognize about individual's & personalities to make it click "BUT" without question you got that figured out "LOL"!

By the way,was wonderin how your splash into the competetion world is goin? "LOL" Been handin out some butt woopin's,takin down names & settin the bar for others to attempt to follow?.....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOL????.......................

"LLMMAAOO"........

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 05:52 PM:

I'll bet you are one that takes one line out of the bible and comes up with your own meaning too. Instead of reading the whole thing. Read the whole thread you you MIGHT understand why I said that one sentince.
As far as winning at comps. you can ask anyone that has been in the woods with me. I am not all about winning. The oldest dog I have that I started with at a workable age is 1 year and he has 1 first place win in ACHA and that was more luck than skill on his part.
I do know enough about genitics to know there is no suck thing as PURE BRED dogs. When the voters quet letting good quality cross's in I won't want to be a part of the club any longer any way for that will be the begining of the end of Great dogs in this club. Just hope atleast one of the clubs stay about the great dogs instead of breeder ego. If not the ones that want to keep good hounds will simply start a new club. Untill thin I like UKC, PKC,ACHA,AKC and all the rest.
Oh and for haveing a just turned 1 year old blue dog and learning the rules as I go and not fussing, fighting and cheating out in the dark. I think I am doing pretty good.
You say you have been breading just what you want for how many years and hunting in these hunts for how many years. How did you do with that your first year and how about now? Never mind it doesn't matter becouse I am not in compition with you and don't really care what people think about what I do for I am here to please MYSELF.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 06:03 PM:

By the way tc if the breeding of bluetics is going so well why is it that all I ever hear is there behind the walkers and they never win world? Now keep in mind I am not collar blind or nor am I breed blind. I like them all but not being a one breed man I can see the good and bad in them all with open eyes. Seems like a lot of breeders are to proud to breed to a differant breed to get what they want in there's. I am not.
I personaly think bluetics are better than walkers..............in some things...............but then I think walkers are better than bluetics in other things and that goes with ever breed.
Only a breeder with the ego the size of a truck would call a cross between two good well bred dogs a sloppy bred cur. Now you have fun visiting with your talking hounds.

Posted by on 07-18-2010 06:22 PM:

Well I wish you luck with your gradedawg's & whether you understand how things work or not I do BELEIVE in pure bred dog's.

Lettin in mutt's is not gona prove anything except insulting the breeder's that have devoted their lives to these hounds whether their pink or purple.

By the way,my first one made herself a GrNtCh & won Autumn Oak's to answer your question.Her son won 3rd in the world hunt,won part of Autumn Oak's & the purina breed winner. Their kennel mate,my second registered hound became a Dual grCh. Every dog here except my redbone & one other all go back to them dog's.

You asked about makin your gradedawg cross & I answered! If you don't want opinions don't start stupid threads like this & not expect replies"LMAO"!!!!

I'll leave ya settin here now cuz I got 4 5 month old pup's treed in 90 temp's across the valley & not from layin no stupid drag but completely on their own nature ability. See you don't hav'ta train'um here cuz they do it on their own or they don't leave the valley. All you can do with "NATURAL'S" is shape & form'um. We'll leave the trainin up to the dogs that need it at someone else' place.

"PEACE OUT"!!!!.....LOLOLOLOLOLOL...............

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 06:27 PM:

Oh I forgot you were interested in my hunting schedule. Most of the year I hunt 3-4 nights a weak. My late nights are thursday -saturday from 8:30 p.m. to 4 a.m. but it is hot here so right now it is 1-2 nights a weak unless we have a cool front go threw. I hunt my dog by what I think they need and can stand at the time but that is roughly what I do. I don't beleive in one system fits all dogs. I try to treat them all as individuals and give them what they need to progress as fast as they can with out ruining them.

Posted by on 07-18-2010 06:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
By the way tc if the breeding of bluetics is going so well why is it that all I ever hear is there behind the walkers and they never win world? Now keep in mind I am not collar blind or nor am I breed blind. I like them all but not being a one breed man I can see the good and bad in them all with open eyes. Seems like a lot of breeders are to proud to breed to a differant breed to get what they want in there's. I am not.
I personaly think bluetics are better than walkers..............in some things...............but then I think walkers are better than bluetics in other things and that goes with ever breed.
Only a breeder with the ego the size of a truck would call a cross between two good well bred dogs a sloppy bred cur. Now you have fun visiting with your talking hounds.

I won't even justify that uneducated lack of experience know it all thought train. I think you gotta get off here & out in the real world instead of readin the wimperin's. You'll never here me say they are behind cuz I don't buy it!

"MUTT'S MUTT'S MUTT'S"! CUR'S CUR'S CUR'S!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..LOLOLOLOLOLOLMAOLOLOLROTFLOL>>>>.

You may need another sip or two of your bath water ??

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 06:36 PM:

That didn't come off here it came from the real world people. LMAO
By the way was the walker bloodlines not started before the bluetic's? Do the bluetic's not take the same time to have pups? If so wouldn't that put the bluetics a few generations behind? Now your the expert. I have never been an expert on any subject.

Posted by Enigma on 07-18-2010 10:18 PM:

Well, Grady I forgot to tell you the first thing you would get is some people trying to tell you, all your litter would do is set back years and years of hard work from dedicated "pure breeders". If your cross is for yourself and you're not going to force anyone to hunt your dogs I dont see how it would affect anyone else.

A world champion could come from your litter... the truth is no one can predict how a litter will turn out, or which dogs to cross to produce a big time winner. If anyone of you know of anyone that can please let me know i will buy their next litter of big winners.....

So you'll never know how a cross will work until you've tried it....

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-18-2010 10:49 PM:

Yep billions of dollars spent on studies on genetics and all the answers are right here. I learnd a long time ago the only limits is what you put on yourself. I am not going to limit myself to one breed. I am not going to be a breeder either. I don't like haveing bitchs much less breeding them and dealing with the pups. I do think I will make this particular cross if the pups I have keep going the way there going.
I watched the german shepard and the mal breeds go to crap becouse of breeders breeding for law inforcement instead of what they were born to do and they wond up not to good for either. So I think while I have 2 very well bred dogs I will put them together. Did it with the jagd terrior while I raised them and had excelent dogs.

Posted by SJunior on 07-19-2010 04:33 AM:

You wouldn't be able to single register as bluetick. Intentional crossbred dog aren't allowed to be single registered in the Bluetick breed.

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