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Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 05-13-2010 12:51 PM:

the name of the game i always thought was to have less in somthing as you could not the most.... i must have been lead wrong some were..........another thing reason for these outrageous prices is you see or go with a dog an you think its the grandest thing an the man that owns it acts like he dont want to sell it or might want actully keep but... in the end he says well it takes lets say 3 thousand to get him an you think about how bad you'd love to have him an you buy him... an sure enough everbody figuerd out people could sell high then the chain started.......an all these hunts have ruined the hound market cause well ol jack won the other nite an somebody wants to try to get looked or try to look good by havin a dog thats a big winner .... not sayin nothing wrong with a winning dog.. but people that go out an byuy a dog just cause he can or has wins.................Well i guess i should just give away or shoot the dogs i got cause apairently dogs ant worth nothing unless you buy 500 dollar pups or 1500 started dogs an up etc...

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Posted by K. Singletary on 05-13-2010 02:11 PM:

You may be able to buy a dog that will tree for $800 to $1000, but it will have issues. Top prospects and for real coondogs are too hard to find to be that cheap. Maybe some folks have lower standards than others, I don't know. I do know people that have been in the market for a coondog, that were willing to spend $3500 to $5000, and they couldn't find any to buy.

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Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 05-13-2010 04:24 PM:

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Originally posted by K. Singletary
You may be able to buy a dog that will tree for $800 to $1000, but it will have issues. Top prospects and for real coondogs are too hard to find to be that cheap. Maybe some folks have lower standards than others, I don't know. I do know people that have been in the market for a coondog, that were willing to spend $3500 to $5000, and they couldn't find any to buy.

that much money ... they must be looking in the wrong places... cause 3500 around here would buy almost ever coondog.....

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Posted by K. Singletary on 05-13-2010 04:35 PM:

They live in SC and ended up with a dog from Oklahoma, so it is not like the search wasn't far and wide. I know they tried several from several different states. Like I said, some people have lower standards than others and you can not find the kind of dog they were looking for at $800-$1000. I don't care where you are from, those don't exist.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 05-13-2010 04:57 PM:

I think bottom line is if you just want to go out and have fun treeing coon and not junk $ 800.00 - $ 1000.00 will get you a good coon dog. If you want one that will do good in comp. hunts and has the blood line to be a top reproducer if it makes it big in the hunts. Then you better dig a LOT DEAPER in that money pocket.
They are worth what they can make you no more and no less. People may pay more than they are worth to have a good one to hunt but that doesn't make them worth it.

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Posted by josh on 05-13-2010 05:02 PM:

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg

They are worth what they can make you no more and no less.

I dont think very many of the dogs that have been bought for big money have ever made much of it back....Coonhunting just isnt a money making proposition for 99% of the hunters out there.

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 05-13-2010 05:28 PM:

I think purchasing a finished dog is far and away the cheapest and most efficient way to find a dog that you enjoy huning regardless of what you pay.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 05-13-2010 06:03 PM:

I saw a discussion on here a while back about a guy turning down a big sum for a dog. Another guy said he was stupid for turning down that much for a dog. One other guy started telling what the dog made in hunts, what he had made in stud fees and what he had comeing from SS,PP and in 2-3 years he could dobble his money. So I think there are TOP hounds that will show you a profet. The dog they were talking about was Gauge. The figures was in the hundreds of thousands of dollar but I don't remember the amounts. The father of my walker pup just sold for $50,000.00 and don't know what it would take to get the father of my blue pup. His father is a stud named Son.

Posted by josh on 05-13-2010 06:17 PM:

The casinos are full of peole that believe they are going to win big also.....That dosent make it true.

Posted by wildbill on 05-13-2010 06:22 PM:

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Nope when a English bull dog that doesn't do ANYTHING but eat and sleep goes for 1500 and up.I don't have a problem droppin the money for a pure bread workin dog.

..........news flash........news flash................

i talked to a lady yesterday that said she used to work at petland and she personally sold 5 english bulldog Puppys for $4000 each and she thought the people were crazy for giving that much for a puppy...

some people got more money than brains is the way i think..

...$4000 for a pup...

i got some ocean front property in ohio if anyone see's these people,,lol

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Posted by The yankeedog on 05-13-2010 07:40 PM:

Yes I think prices are a little overrated sometimes. Really a man should buy a dog upon his own judgement of the dog, not by who it selling the dog. Everybody see's their dog differently than somebodyelse does. you know what you have in a dog, training, food, vet, ect. ect. ect. put a price on him and stick to it. 800.00 to 1,000.00 is a good price range for an average hound in my book!

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Posted by River Birch Run on 05-13-2010 11:47 PM:

What kills me is when I look and see what people will pay for a walker dog that isen't doing anything but has a nice set of papers. Then I look at the Blk & Tan people who won't pay anything for a dog that is close to finished or a pup that is started really well. Has some of the best bloodlines in the breed behind it. There all paid up in 3 differnt Reg. and people get mad when you don't just give them the dog. The funny thing about it is The Walker people are not shy about grabbing up a good blk dog.

Posted by BIG$BLUES on 05-14-2010 12:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I saw a discussion on here a while back about a guy turning down a big sum for a dog. Another guy said he was stupid for turning down that much for a dog. One other guy started telling what the dog made in hunts, what he had made in stud fees and what he had comeing from SS,PP and in 2-3 years he could dobble his money. So I think there are TOP hounds that will show you a profet. The dog they were talking about was Gauge. The figures was in the hundreds of thousands of dollar but I don't remember the amounts. The father of my walker pup just sold for $50,000.00 and don't know what it would take to get the father o
f my blue pup. His father is a stud named Son.

Well I think a dog is worth what you can get out of him and as far as Gauge it is yet to be seen what kind of stud dog he is going to be one must not count all that ss and perf money before it is in the bank Gauge did sell for a nice price he has been promoted very well from the begining to and as far as the $50 grand for the other one WOW

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Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 05-14-2010 12:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
The casinos are full of peole that believe they are going to win big also.....That dosent make it true.

true story

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 05-14-2010 01:56 AM:

Gauge had allready made a pretty sum when he was sold and had a pretty good check comeing from ss or pp I don't remember wich. I would hate to pay a heck of a price like that and then cut him loose in the dark though. I am sure it wouldn't break the man that bought him though or he wouldn't do it..........

Posted by jackbob42 on 05-14-2010 02:55 AM:

I remember a man once telling me he paid a good amount for a dog.
When I asked him if was that good , the man said , " I don't know. Never hunted with him. "

I asked how he could justify the dogs worth if he had never hunted with the dog.

His reply was , " I bought that dog for my two boys. They hunt the dog and bring coon home every night. As long as they're bringing coon home , I know they're not out getting into trouble. That makes the dog worth every penny. "

Having a real coondog is a personal pleasure. It's up to each individual as to what that pleasure is worth.
If I could afford 50 grand for a dog that suits me , I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Trouble is , I can't afford it. But , I'm smart enough to know that I'm not gonna buy one for 500 bucks either.

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Posted by l.lyle on 05-14-2010 04:00 AM:

Yes you can 'cause right now I'm running a divorce/dui/tax sale. LOL. It's one of them "But Fors" as the lawyers call it. But for all that stuff those dogs would not be for sale. $800 sounds good right now instead of a feed bill but since a dog of that price comes with issues, I guess you'll not Know because you won't even bother to look. Also if you bring a $5,000 or $10,000 dog with you to compare and you end up liking mine better I'll sell it for 1/2 off yours so you know you got a deal.

Selling takes a gimmick. Mostly it's just being in the right place at the right time.

Posted by Dogwhisper on 05-14-2010 06:11 AM:

If I got a dog f/s and u can afford it buy it.
If I got a dog f/s and you can't afford it, then you can't afford it.
For sale , not on sale .

Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 05-14-2010 03:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jackbob42
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I'm smart enough to know that I'm not gonna buy one for 500 bucks either.

people like you have the wrong concept of things.....ive seen time an time agin if you price a dog under under 800 people automaticly think that it ant worth nothing...... put people price a dog over a thousand everbody jumps in........never understand the new high tech internet ways of thing......MORE PEOPLE WOULD RATHER GO HUNT WITH A DOG THAT THE PERSON LIED PRICED AT 3000. THEN GO LOOK AT DOG PRICE AT 500 AN TELLS THE TRUTH......i guess only selete few really ever learned from the older men meaning family or friends.....no matter what the man whats for it an you think you might be interested in it GO HUNT WITH IT EVEN IF WAS PRICE AT 200 DOLLARS ...TRY BEFOR YOU BUY.....10,000 OR 300... PLAN SIMPLE

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 05-14-2010 08:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BAWL_TRACK
people like you have the wrong concept of things.....ive seen time an time agin if you price a dog under under 800 people automaticly think that it ant worth nothing...... put people price a dog over a thousand everbody jumps in........never understand the new high tech internet ways of thing......MORE PEOPLE WOULD RATHER GO HUNT WITH A DOG THAT THE PERSON LIED PRICED AT 3000. THEN GO LOOK AT DOG PRICE AT 500 AN TELLS THE TRUTH......i guess only selete few really ever learned from the older men meaning family or friends.....no matter what the man whats for it an you think you might be interested in it GO HUNT WITH IT EVEN IF WAS PRICE AT 200 DOLLARS ...TRY BEFOR YOU BUY.....10,000 OR 300... PLAN SIMPLE

Reason for that is the law of averages........On average you get what you pay for (IF YOU BUY IT UNDER THE TREE)and you don't get much dog for $500.00. There are exceptions of course but most people these days don't have time to go hunting with a bunch of cheap dogs hopeing the guy isn't lieing about how good his cheap dog is. If it is cheap and is a real good dog it is an exception to the rule..............You can't tell much about a dog in one dump or even one night. By the time you dump it by itself, with good company, and a trashy sob to see what it is really like oh and differant sex of hounds you have some time involved.
That is why a mans word is so important........If you just know the man and know his word is good you can save all that trouble. Buying one off this thing from people that talk a good line can cost you money and bullets..............

Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 05-14-2010 09:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Reason for that is the law of averages........On average you get what you pay for (IF YOU BUY IT UNDER THE TREE)and you don't get much dog for $500.00. There are exceptions of course but most people these days don't have time to go hunting with a bunch of cheap dogs hopeing the guy isn't lieing about how good his cheap dog is. If it is cheap and is a real good dog it is an exception to the rule..............You can't tell much about a dog in one dump or even one night. By the time you dump it by itself, with good company, and a trashy sob to see what it is really like oh and differant sex of hounds you have some time involved.
That is why a mans word is so important........If you just know the man and know his word is good you can save all that trouble. Buying one off this thing from people that talk a good line can cost you money and bullets..............

thats why you dont belive you hear an only half of what you see lol

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Posted by jackbob42 on 05-15-2010 01:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BAWL_TRACK
people like you have the wrong concept of things....

I think you have the wrong concept of what I call a coondog.
Heck , most people probably have never seen what I call a coondog.
I even bought one ONCE for $500.
Sure , you can buy a dog that will tree a coon once in awhile for $500 , but that ain't what I call a coondog.
I'm talking about a dog that you can take out and EXPECT it to tree every track it starts. And EXPECT to see the coon every time it trees.
Sometimes they can't , but that's not what you EXPECT.
With a coondog , HOPE is never part of the equation.
Have you got one of those for $500?

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Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 05-15-2010 04:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jackbob42
I think you have the wrong concept of what I call a coondog.
Heck , most people probably have never seen what I call a coondog.
I even bought one ONCE for $500.
Sure , you can buy a dog that will tree a coon once in awhile for $500 , but that ain't what I call a coondog.
I'm talking about a dog that you can take out and EXPECT it to tree every track it starts. And EXPECT to see the coon every time it trees.
Sometimes they can't , but that's not what you EXPECT.
With a coondog , HOPE is never part of the equation.
Have you got one of those for $500?

well no matter if you have a 2 or 2000 dollar dog.... everbody i know expects there going to tree a coon when you go or you wouldnt go

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Posted by Blue Iron on 05-15-2010 04:32 AM:

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Originally posted by K. Singletary
I don't care where you are from, those don't exist.

Yes they do.

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Posted by Ameren on 05-15-2010 04:35 AM:

Maybe I priced mine to cheap at 1000 but i did. Now those talking smack want to come for a hunt with her?

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