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Posted by RyanBeasley on 05-04-2010 04:50 PM:

About the small or large supers... We have never used the small supers. I guess how you plan to extract the honey would determine what you use. If the hive fills up with bees then they will swarm. When honey is coming, give them Supers as they fill them up with honey. If you put on 5 supers at one time you'll notice the queen fills them up with brood and less honey. Hope this helps.

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 05-04-2010 08:06 PM:

Ryan

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Originally posted by RyanBeasley
About the small or large supers... We have never used the small supers. I guess how you plan to extract the honey would determine what you use. If the hive fills up with bees then they will swarm. When honey is coming, give them Supers as they fill them up with honey. If you put on 5 supers at one time you'll notice the queen fills them up with brood and less honey. Hope this helps.

Ryan, I understand what you're talking about, but what I need to know Is about the brood boxes. I put these bees in 1 bottom board, 1 deep brood box, and 1 top cover. should I put another deep brood box on top of the brood box thats on the hive?? then when they get a good start on that put a queen excluder and add supers as they need It.

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Posted by L. D. WILLIAMS on 05-04-2010 11:14 PM:

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Concerning swarming, sometimes the hive will rear its own queen when this happens, the old queen and some loyal workers will leave with her (swarm). Also, the virgin queens must be bred on the outside of the hive these swarms are usually smaller and only travel a short distance before returning to the original hive.(mating swarm).

Posted by Kervin on 05-05-2010 03:17 AM:

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Ok guys we caught a swarm march 23rd today they swarmed and we managed to catch it. We put the first swarm in a big super then a couple weeks later added another super and excluder. The ??? is why did they swarm so soon? We put the new swarm in a big super and plan to do the same to it. They swarmed about 45ft up in alil oak i had to trim it all the way up to be able to cut the limb and lower it down to dad talk about nerve racking!

Today the fellow where we caught the original hive came by and said another swarm was in his yard. This time they went in a hole I kept puttin honey on a stick and working it around and pullin the bees out in a brood box that we put honey in to keep them fr coming back out. Seemed to work we will no tommorrow of they stay. Do yahl think that when the original hives split that both of them had time to make new swarms and split off in a Lil over a month?

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Posted by RyanBeasley on 05-05-2010 12:29 PM:

Re: Ryan

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Originally posted by Whistle Pig
Ryan, I understand what you're talking about, but what I need to know Is about the brood boxes. I put these bees in 1 bottom board, 1 deep brood box, and 1 top cover. should I put another deep brood box on top of the brood box thats on the hive?? then when they get a good start on that put a queen excluder and add supers as they need It.

Generally speaking without knowing the specifics, ALL of our hives only operate off of the bottom hive for brood. I would see no reason to have 2 supers of brood for your "startup" hive. No queen excluder is ever used and if you have time to check on them frequently and add supers when needed then you never run into a problem of "too much" brood in top supers. Sure they'll be some along and along but not enough to hurt honey production. We'll have some hives 6 supers tall and when we go to rob honey we knock them all back down to one super. I am unfamiliar with practices outside of southeast GA, but this has worked for many years for us. Sure we lose a few queens and hives every year, but it's easy for us to add a frame of workers/honey, brood, and a new queen and start a new hive where you may not have that luxury.

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 05-05-2010 04:44 PM:

Ryan

Ryan, If I want to make comb honey, could I have 1 brood super, and put the shallow super on top of the brood super??

And when the shallow super gets full of honey, do I take It off or move It to the top and put a empty super underneath It??

Thanks Ryan, I'm slow or stupid lol

Posted by Whistle Pig on 05-09-2010 05:15 PM:

Ryan

Ryan, I've had these bees in the hive for three weeks. Went into them, they had the brood box 90% full of honey, and brood. put a super on them and man their working like crazy. all I have to do Is lay back and wait on the little jokers to fill It up.

Thanks again Ryan

Posted by RyanBeasley on 05-09-2010 05:29 PM:

That's great news! Glad I could help you out a little. Won't be long and you'll get addicted and have 50 hives for a little retirement money. lol My advice is to get 2 hives started side by side. That way you can tell quicker if one is going downhill or not. Don't worry about the expense of it, name your price for comb honey and people will buy it! lol I'll try to get a pic of our honey room that we extract in. It'll show what "just a hobby"
led into for my dad.

Ryan

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 05-09-2010 07:57 PM:

Ryan

certainly would appreciate It.

Take care

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