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Posted by mileopardcur on 03-15-2010 12:12 PM:

Leopards

Yes the Leopards were brought into the folds of UKC as the 7th hound breed. This was done by the American Leopard Breeders Association with Mr. Perry Lambert leading the helm. Perry, Rex Laker, Dan Noble, and the rest of the board worked for a long time with UKC to get this done.

Posted by delta nightlife on 03-15-2010 12:57 PM:

i tell yall what i dont how long my hound could have lasted against that cur dog of aritts ihad all i wanted out of him friday night he is nice one indeed i will also say this he opened up just as much or more on track than our hounds did we had our hands full with this cur

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Posted by Buckshot on 03-15-2010 02:40 PM:

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Originally posted by POP
yes...a single reg dog is usually, not always, a crossbred dog.
i never said there wasnt crossbred dogs in ukc, but there is not a BREED called crossbreed for them to fall under.
sorry to have p@ssed off the correction police....hahaha!!!

Didn;t piss me off, just letting folks know that there are crossbreeds hunting in the nite hunts and how they are hunting in the nite hunts.

From the emails, PM's, and post I have seen, alot of people are not sure, your post made it seem like they are not hunting in the hunts, that is why I quoted it and explained it.

Posted by on 03-15-2010 07:09 PM:

I'm not sure why anyone would want to hunt the curs against hounds anyway. For all their talk, the cur guys have never been able to compete with hounds in PKC where they have always been allowed to enter and at their own breed day event last weekend they could only place one Leopard over the two nights of open event nite hunt competition. I think they will eventually find that their level of success in competing with the hounds is somewhere just below that of the Plotts.

Posted by Ray Lilly on 03-15-2010 07:23 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
I'm not sure why anyone would want to hunt the curs against hounds anyway. For all their talk, the cur guys have never been able to compete with hounds in PKC where they have always been allowed to enter and at their own breed day event last weekend they could only place one Leopard over the two nights of open event nite hunt competition. I think they will eventually find that their level of success in competing with the hounds is somewhere just below that of the Plotts.

I agree 100%

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Posted by boonetreecoon on 03-15-2010 07:34 PM:

the amercian lepoard hound can hunt in the hunts and that's a cur dog

Posted by Okie Dawg on 03-15-2010 07:37 PM:

I don't think any one has ever been dumb enough to think a dog couldn't tree a coon. This is supose to be a HOUND DOG compitition though. One being better or worse than another has nothing to do with it. That is all in opinion of hunting style. They can all be taught to hunt coon. Now if the leopard hound is truly been bred to be a hound and opens on track along with all other hound requirements I say more power to them. All hounds started somewere.....

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Posted by DustinS on 03-15-2010 08:29 PM:

I believe Perry Lambert was more responsible for making that happen. I believe Perry did all the talking back and forth with Allen and Todd at UKC and I think me and him and a few other ALBA members sat at his house counting all the votes from the Association to make them UKC hounds.

Yea what mileopardcur said... sorry, MATT I think????

Posted by triker on 03-16-2010 01:41 AM:

i know of one female that could eat my feed anyday.she is here in michigan her name is goose owned by mr grovesteen.she has won numerous leopard little world hunts.she just flat gets it done.and will have the meat now she is not a big pretty walker dog or a big fancy black and tan show dog not a 100 bpm dog no big loud tree dog but she can tree coons.thanks ron

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Posted by Aritt Davis on 03-16-2010 02:12 AM:

If I had to choose between a COON DOG and a Coon Hound, I'd choose the COON DOG every time regardless of breed.

There is good, greay and well........... in all of 'em!

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Posted by Aritt Davis on 03-16-2010 02:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by delta nightlife
i tell yall what i dont how long my hound could have lasted against that cur dog of aritts ihad all i wanted out of him friday night he is nice one indeed i will also say this he opened up just as much or more on track than our hounds did we had our hands full with this cur

Thanks, Wayne! I thoroughly enjoyed the hunt! Probably one of my all time favorites!

I'll have my little cur dog READY next time!

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Posted by Aritt Davis on 03-16-2010 02:27 AM:

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I don't think any one has ever been dumb enough to think a dog couldn't tree a coon. This is supose to be a HOUND DOG compitition though. One being better or worse than another has nothing to do with it. That is all in opinion of hunting style. They can all be taught to hunt coon. Now if the leopard hound is truly been bred to be a hound and opens on track along with all other hound requirements I say more power to them. All hounds started somewere.....

If anyone has to TEACH their dogs to tree a coon, they need to take another look at what they are hunting. IMO

The curs I hunt don't have to be TAUGHT to tree, its BRED in em. I was merely looking for an additional venue in which I could hunt my dog. I'm not too keen on the money hunts all though I might try one or two. I figured the more venues I could hunt in the less I would have to travel very far to enjoy a little competition. But hey, if my dog aint wanted thats fine. You can't please everybody.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 03-16-2010 02:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Aritt Davis
If anyone has to TEACH their dogs to tree a coon, they need to take another look at what they are hunting. IMO

The curs I hunt don't have to be TAUGHT to tree, its BRED in em. I was merely looking for an additional venue in which I could hunt my dog. I'm not too keen on the money hunts all though I might try one or two. I figured the more venues I could hunt in the less I would have to travel very far to enjoy a little competition. But hey, if my dog aint wanted thats fine. You can't please everybody.

Well it's nothing personal and if your dogs come out of the womb running and treeing coon you are wasteing your time hunting any way. BREED them as fast as you can and sell them to all these guys needing help training a coon dog.

Posted by VA.REB on 03-16-2010 12:23 PM:

REMEMBER

Its not that leopards are not at the same level as hounds, [ they are ] ,its just that most leopard people are pleasure hunters, not competition hunters. I personally believe this will change over time. I know of several leopards that can compete at the competition level, and do well. We just have to make the leopard breed and breeders [ yes I do own leopards ], feel welcome at the hunts. There are a few of yall that on this post that need to support us not DOWN us . As houndsmen we all need to stick together. A coon dog is a coon dog no matter the color. GOD BLESS YALL.

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Posted by delta nightlife on 03-16-2010 12:57 PM:

aritt dont have leopards he has mountain curs

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Posted by Coonie on 03-16-2010 02:52 PM:

cur hunt

Aritt, UKC does have hunts for the cur dogs. You can hold it with a coonhound event. The curs will hunt with curs at the same time the hounds are hunting with hounds. Just a little info! At one time they hunted the state hunt [UKC] but as grade dogs. Hunted in it. Cur dog had high score of hunt. That was the Indiana state hunt back when the Indiana hunting dogs ass. ran the state hunt here.

Posted by Aritt Davis on 03-17-2010 12:45 AM:

Re: cur hunt

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Originally posted by Coonie
Aritt, UKC does have hunts for the cur dogs. You can hold it with a coonhound event. The curs will hunt with curs at the same time the hounds are hunting with hounds. Just a little info! At one time they hunted the state hunt [UKC] but as grade dogs. Hunted in it. Cur dog had high score of hunt. That was the Indiana state hunt back when the Indiana hunting dogs ass. ran the state hunt here.

THat's an interesting tidbit. Thanks for the help

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Posted by TOP on 03-17-2010 01:42 AM:

aritt, you better keep them ole outlaw mtn curs off this ukc board....

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Posted by joey bourne on 03-18-2010 01:09 AM:

Re: REMEMBER

quote:
Originally posted by VA.REB
Its not that leopards are not at the same level as hounds, [ they are ] ,its just that most leopard people are pleasure hunters, not competition hunters. I personally believe this will change over time. I know of several leopards that can compete at the competition level, and do well. We just have to make the leopard breed and breeders [ yes I do own leopards ], feel welcome at the hunts. There are a few of yall that on this post that need to support us not DOWN us . As houndsmen we all need to stick together. A coon dog is a coon dog no matter the color. GOD BLESS YALL.

I am the typ of man that likes the minority style hound. I live in S.C. and I have olny seen one leopard hound in person and it was @ GRANDAMERICAN John Wicks dog. It was quite a sporty looking hound to me. The only problem that I see is the ones in the books for sale are very exspensive. What I hunt now will win in the hunts from time to time. Its hard to put that kinda money in a puppy that doesn't stand much of a chance of being a real coondog. What I meen by that is the percentage rate of any breed turning out a winner isn't that great. I have went through 4 walkers to find the dog I'm hunting now. I havent ever bought a trained dog and don't plan on it. If you can buy the best breed hound in any breed cheaper its hard to put that much money in a leopard. For all yal leopard promoters you should put your pups in peoples hands that hunt hard and you know they will get a fair shake at making a name for your breed. Just a little food for thought.......Joey Bourne

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