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Posted by coondawg_hunter on 01-08-2010 10:54 AM:

Coon populations grow because of

1.better food sources and mast crops which mean healthier coons and slightly larger litters and less of a winter die of.
2. A decrease in hunter harvest numbers.

You're not comprehending what I said Bill. Read it again. SLOWLY.

We done a study once that proved this. In a mountainous area of a state where very little large scale farming took place coon litters varied with the amount of mast available. Coons would have slightly larger and healthier litters when the amst was good, when it was bad they would have smaller kits and smaller survival rates. An increase in disease was also seen.

In the areas of the same state where farming was king and corn and soybean were prevalent, the coons had larger healthier litters, higher survival rates, and a higher popualtion density.

lol i concurr (that is the other agree word) on all accept number 2! the hunter harvest in my area is plain and simple, increased, by a long shot, even though coon hides are worthless, hundreds if not thousands of coon are killed on one stretch of my hunting area alone, i know cuz my harvest is in the triple digits and i can prove it, the first number in this triple digit is 2 and i can prove that as well, that is what i kill, not what i tree! this post fails to mention mother nature and how she works! the higher the harvest, the higher the coon kitten will be born, i have killed so many coon from this area and each year that harvest gets bigger! like they are coming out of the woodwork! i'm pretty sure that i won't hit 300 coon this year with my dogs, as they have over 200 easy, but next year is another story! with all this agriculture, the more you kill, the more they have in litters!

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Posted by liberalcreek on 01-08-2010 01:47 PM:

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Originally posted by coondawg_hunter
Coon populations grow because of

the more you kill, the more they have in litters!

I cant find any data to support that. if that was the case with wildlife, we would still have cougar, wolf, and elk all across the south.

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Posted by David Boggs on 01-08-2010 05:11 PM:

coondawg-hunter

how much you charg to start and train a young dog becalws i am raisen 3 pups rite now and will need to hire some one to help me with one of them starting this spring and if you will and i can aford you i would like you to hunt 1 for me.you can pm me david boggs

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Posted by Family on 01-08-2010 05:48 PM:

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Originally posted by Joey
10 years ago I killed two sows in the same area the same night and both where about to have kittens and it was mid September. I’ve treed some in December that looked like they were just weaned.

Life is hard, fight like you are the third monkey trying to get on Noah’s ark!!

That Signature is the funniest thing I've read in a while...I bet you like to comp hunt.....

OOOOHHHH man that is good stuff...the third monkey...Thanks

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-08-2010 05:54 PM:

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Originally posted by Family
Life is hard, fight like you are the third monkey trying to get on Noah’s ark!!

That Signature is the funniest thing I've read in a while...I bet you like to comp hunt.....

OOOOHHHH man that is good stuff...the third monkey...Thanks

I think it should be fight like you are trying to keep the third monkey off. Got to thinking about thying to keep the little sucker off. LOL

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-08-2010 06:12 PM:

As far as how long the sow carry there kittens thing. That was the question. I don't remember how we got started on the how many litters a year but I would say no EXPERT could tell you. Oh I am not saying they won't try but there is to much differance in climate and food across the country. Alot of differance in coon just like coon dogs too I suspect.
When the EXPERTS get it right in humans then I might pay attention to them in something else. For example take women. There supose to come in once a month. Ask around a very high percentage don't. Some are in for long time, don't want to get close to them. Might be in a bad mood a lot. LOL
I would say a coon doesn't have a clock and it's system is stemulated by food and climate. So in the south with good food source they may put out 2 litters a year but wide open country and get eaten bu yotes,owels,hawlks and other preditors. One thing that was on yawls list. NATURAL PREDITORS gods little way of ballance. Now up north were there is more tree cover and in the places were there is good food source they may have a better survival yet ont as many born to begin with.
Lots of varibals and experts doing test. But were are they doing them? You would have to do them all over the country.
That is why I allways listen to EXPERTS when they speak BUT then add a little common sense to the mix of information. The thing that most of them just doesn't have becouse it isn't in a book.

Posted by Traxx Addict on 01-08-2010 06:22 PM:

The heat cycles of Cattle , horses, dogs, and even humans and every other animal can all be reliably predicted an generalized per species rather easily. There will always be variations, but they are minute and not the norm.

Libcreeck and Ben Cocker have it right.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-08-2010 06:35 PM:

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Originally posted by Traxx Addict
The heat cycles of Cattle , horses, dogs, and even humans and every other animal can all be reliably predicted an generalized per species rather easily. There will always be variations, but they are minute and not the norm.

Libcreeck and Ben Cocker have it right.

Tell that to my sister,daughter-in-law, daughter(and she has had 5 kids) and several of my daughters friends that I just happened to find out about by listening when I should had been running. LOL Oh and several on my step mother familey side. The norm gets mest up pretty often. I know it isn't the majority but it is a lot more often than some people think. Animals is no differant. I worked on a horse stud farm and know some of them didn't do just what they were supose to. I raised dog and god knows they will surprise you too.
You would probubley be surprised how many conversations you get into in a barber shop about womens cycles being messed up.

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