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Posted by wayne f on 01-05-2010 04:03 AM:

dan

they do there made for bird baths

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Posted by JIM VOLLMER on 01-05-2010 05:16 AM:

this is what i use

I use the black rubber calf buckets, in a calf bucket holder attached to the kennel wire with u-bolts. To keep the water from freezing i use the same heaters that i think nitechamp Bud uses, they are bucket and birdbath de-icers but i bought them at fleet farm and did not pay as much as nite lite wants, they do sell them at TSC. Place the heater in the bottom of the bucket laying flat. I run the cord through i think 1 1/2 in id THICK WALLED PVC diameter big enough to run the 3 prong plug through it. I cut the straight piece long enough to clear the bucket handle while it is all the way up. Then i put an elbow on the straight piece to run the cord out past the wire to the outside. The bucket handle is secured to the kennel wire with the pipe between the handle and the wire with those big snap clips - spring loaded probably 3- or 4 inch clips. The dogs can't even budge them. I run the extension cord through more PVC ANYWHERE THEY COULD GET AT IT. And i wire tie my extension cords across the tops on the gate ends so they can not reach them to my power source.I have not had one get chewed yet at all. 20 something below and no ice makes my life alot easier. I will try to post a picture on here when i get time.

Posted by toe cutter on 01-05-2010 07:07 AM:

I build wood boxes 15 inch by 12 inches and 7 inches high. 1/2 inch plywood.. looks like a speaker box with no speaker, just the hole for it.. i put a 2 $ cleat fixture with a 60 watt light bulb in it. run a cord out the side and plug them in to gfi plugs. the water bowl sits in the hole where the speaker would normally go. 2 below last night and mine, all 8 of them, had no ice at all. used them for over 20 yrs like this.when it gets colder if they freeze with a 60,go to a 75 watt. make sure the bulb is not real close to the wood and use screws on the top for easy access for repair. just change the bulb when you need to through the hole for the dish.these old hounds need fresh water in the winter time to produce heat just as much as they need food. wet dog food dont replace the fluids they need to stay warm.

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Posted by on 01-05-2010 09:46 AM:

i like that idea canb you post sum pics of the box ?

Posted by Velocity on 01-05-2010 11:31 AM:

I Bought 2 Heated 5 gallon water buckets about 6 years ago and still use them starting in December and up till the beginning of march. I only use 1 this year because i have it out in the yard instead of in the kennel's. I leave the 2 dogs out in the fenced in yard instead of locked in there kennel since they get along and don't try to get out. If you have access to electric and secure the cord away from the dogs i Don't think you can go wrong...IMOP

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 01-05-2010 01:42 PM:

Re: dan

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Originally posted by wayne f
they do there made for bird baths

i checked there product review,,didn't sound like there very well liked..

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Posted by Kenny Eads on 01-05-2010 02:40 PM:

I just water twice a day and mix food with water and dogs seem to be doing fine. It doesn't seem like they drink much this time of the year either. -7 degrees this morning at 5:30 and all is doing well.

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Posted by John D on 01-05-2010 02:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by toe cutter
I build wood boxes 15 inch by 12 inches and 7 inches high. 1/2 inch plywood.. looks like a speaker box with no speaker, just the hole for it.. i put a 2 $ cleat fixture with a 60 watt light bulb in it. run a cord out the side and plug them in to gfi plugs. the water bowl sits in the hole where the speaker would normally go. 2 below last night and mine, all 8 of them, had no ice at all. used them for over 20 yrs like this.when it gets colder if they freeze with a 60,go to a 75 watt. make sure the bulb is not real close to the wood and use screws on the top for easy access for repair. just change the bulb when you need to through the hole for the dish.these old hounds need fresh water in the winter time to produce heat just as much as they need food. wet dog food dont replace the fluids they need to stay warm.

Thats the best idea I heard of.

I bought my first heated bucket this year from Orschelin. Its 2-3 gallon. If its over half full, the dang thing freezes on top anyway.

In the past I've just knocked ice out and refilled, twice a day. If you got the right kind of pan or bucket, the ice cube will pop right out. Seems like a container with a good taper works the best. But when it gets below zero, it doesn't take long to freeze and the dogs don't have much opportunity to drink...

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Posted by max destruction on 01-05-2010 02:52 PM:

Re: Re: dan

quote:
Originally posted by Dan Dogs
i checked there product review,,didn't sound like there very well liked..

Fleet farm and cabelas sells solar panels they aint terribly expensive and you could easly hook up a few heated water bolws to em i no several guys that run there ice houses off of them!

Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-05-2010 02:54 PM:

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Why would someone post this?

Stupid, that is the only answer I can think of. The only place I see it now is in the answers to that post. People that answered that post should go back and delete there post. There still could be a kid get confused and try it just reading the answers. Be nice to get the work off this whole thread.

Oh I didn't look on the first page. Might have to get the moderator to get rid of all the posts about it.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-05-2010 03:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by toe cutter
I build wood boxes 15 inch by 12 inches and 7 inches high. 1/2 inch plywood.. looks like a speaker box with no speaker, just the hole for it.. i put a 2 $ cleat fixture with a 60 watt light bulb in it. run a cord out the side and plug them in to gfi plugs. the water bowl sits in the hole where the speaker would normally go. 2 below last night and mine, all 8 of them, had no ice at all. used them for over 20 yrs like this.when it gets colder if they freeze with a 60,go to a 75 watt. make sure the bulb is not real close to the wood and use screws on the top for easy access for repair. just change the bulb when you need to through the hole for the dish.these old hounds need fresh water in the winter time to produce heat just as much as they need food. wet dog food dont replace the fluids they need to stay warm.

Sounds like a tight old country hick that has felt hunger and hard times. LOL
That is a really good idea!!!!!!!!!!! I like the cheap part too.
I think I am going to do the same thing with an old ice chest I have that is to messed up to use.

Posted by Dan Dogs on 01-05-2010 03:09 PM:

i use to have alot of 30 gal plastic barrels that i got my milkhouse sanitizers in..i would cut the bottoms off about 7 inches up..and used them for water pans..the water froze but all you had to do is flip them over and the ice would slide rite out..but over time the pups would chew them up a bit..wish i still had some barrels around, they worked great.

Posted by ronald schultz on 01-05-2010 03:30 PM:

come to a plymouth hunt

i got some fer ya!

Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 01-05-2010 10:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dan Dogs
i use to have alot of 30 gal plastic barrels that i got my milkhouse sanitizers in..i would cut the bottoms off about 7 inches up..and used them for water pans..the water froze but all you had to do is flip them over and the ice would slide rite out..but over time the pups would chew them up a bit..wish i still had some barrels around, they worked great.

find ya milkin man that uses them .i can get all i want around here

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Posted by chadf on 01-05-2010 11:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Sounds like a tight old country hick that has felt hunger and hard times. LOL
That is a really good idea!!!!!!!!!!! I like the cheap part too.
I think I am going to do the same thing with an old ice chest I have that is to messed up to use.

You just gave me an idea of what to do with the old Army cooler I have.

Posted by T.Beyer on 01-06-2010 12:00 AM:

Ok I just tried the evaporated milk thing. My dogs drank all their water and didn't give it a chance to freeze. I often worry that they do not get enough water in the winter, and in the summer my male dog might take a sip a day out of his water bucket. I think I am gonna start adding a little bit everyday and see how it works. Pretty inexpensive.

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 01-06-2010 12:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BAWL_TRACK
find ya milkin man that uses them .i can get all i want around here

around here they sell bulk, and refill the barrel

Posted by BWSupplies on 01-06-2010 12:56 AM:

Somebody search a dog sledding forum and see what they do. Didn't Dirty Jobs do a show on caring for sled dogs?

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Posted by wakenda on 01-06-2010 01:26 AM:

I use the black rubber calf pans. I only fill them with a gallon of water. when they freeze turn them over hit them with a sledge hammer and refill. I do this twice a day and have never had a problem. I got tired of spending money on heated bowles for the dogs to use for chew toys.

Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 01-06-2010 02:29 AM:

i tell you what would work an its cheap an free for some,,,, i got one but im gonna make more use um year round ..... take you old car/lawn/fourwheeler tires an take a saw zaw or whatever an cut in 2to3 quaters depends on how big it is an they should look like bold up wide the tire the better an there ya go very cheap waters year round ..................patten pending lol j/k

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Posted by Dwils on 01-06-2010 03:11 AM:

feed my dogs 2 x a day and water 3 times

i got a bag of goat milk replacer and mix 2 cups with a 5 gallon buckett of Hot water and give the dogs 2 cups feed each and fill their feed bowls the rest of the way up with the milk replacer. they love it and devour it.

when i get home from work i feed them the rest of their feed and just give them plain water and before i go to bed i water them again.

they seem to like it this way and every time i used to water them they would never drink it and it would freeze so i just add it to the water to make sure they are getting it and keeping hydrated

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Posted by Tully on 12-19-2011 04:41 AM:

I just buy

Heated water dishes at Theisens farm supply. $14.00 they have wire wrapped around the cords, I mounted my outlets high and run the cord out the bottom of my kennel then straight up. Dogs haven't moved one or hurt a cord yet. My dogs drink a lot more in the winter than in the summer. 5 quarts every 36 hours on the average. They need more water in the winter to stay in good shape.

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Posted by truly on 12-19-2011 05:05 AM:

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Heated water dishes at Theisens farm supply. $14.00 they have wire wrapped around the cords, I mounted my outlets high and run the cord out the bottom of my kennel then straight up. Dogs haven't moved one or hurt a cord yet. My dogs drink a lot more in the winter than in the summer. 5 quarts every 36 hours on the average. They need more water in the winter to stay in good shape.

I saw a previous poster suggest that they don't drink as much in winter. I disagree with that, and agree with you Tully. Dogs have to burn more calories to stay warm. Burning more calories requires more hydration. Colder weather also is lower humidity- sapping more hydration from your dog. Wet food is helpful, but not enough. I am giving my hounds which stay inside wet food to keep enough weight on them to handle the cold hunting conditions and after they get done eating they gulp down a lot of water. Makes me think that their is a lot of sodium in their feed?

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Posted by RHK on 12-19-2011 02:55 PM:

i water once a day. my dogs dont drink much at all in the winter, especially if there is snow on the ground.

Posted by Royal_BlueHound on 12-19-2011 03:03 PM:

A little salt works and helps to keep dogs hydrated too! We used this trick with the horses and cows, when it gets cold outside you have to make sure they drink no matter what and that works also helps to add a little to water bowl to slow down the freezing process. Not too much salt, then they wont drink it.

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