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Posted by john nannemann on 12-15-2009 04:12 AM:

arkansas is in the 7% unemployment rate range. we are a
"right to work" state.

Posted by on 12-15-2009 10:11 PM:

Oklahoma has been hit hard. I don't know what the #s are, But I work for FedEx Freight, and we have doubled our freight the past few months, but we get word every day, that companies are cutting production or shutting down.. It's not helping with X-Mas and the hollidays coming up.. For example. We might have hauled 18 skids of freight to a company daily last year, this year we might haul 2-skids every other day... NOT GOOD.. It breaks down like this, There's no light shining yet, at the end of the tunnel...

Merry Christmas !!!

Posted by truly on 12-15-2009 10:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john nannemann
arkansas is in the 7% unemployment rate range. we are a
"right to work" state.

And doesn't Arkansas have the second worst poverty rate in the country? What is the right to work good for if the employer has the right to underpay you, and you have no choice but to accept that job?
Are people in Arkansas poor because of the system of rules and regulations set up by the state, or are they poor because they are lazy? Usually righties say the poor are poor cause they are lazy. That isn't my view.

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Posted by john nannemann on 12-16-2009 12:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly
And doesn't Arkansas have the second worst poverty rate in the country? What is the right to work good for if the employer has the right to underpay you, and you have no choice but to accept that job?
Are people in Arkansas poor because of the system of rules and regulations set up by the state, or are they poor because they are lazy? Usually righties say the poor are poor cause they are lazy. That isn't my view.

it's lazy- many are on the permanent teat, they are not counted in the "unemployment roles" because you can't make them work. this is not really even open for debate, it is simply a fact. and it is another reason we have many illegals working in this state as the locals find that working cuts into their leisure time. us that work call it lazy, the folks on the teat call it a "lifestyle choice". most folks that work in arkansas seem to do as well as THEIR ability and want to lets them- for example- jack and witt stevens( raised about 7 miles from where i live- in "poverty"), sam walton, don tyson, j.b. hunt, ect., ect.

as usual, but not always(once, anyway), your view and mine will not mesh, as i believe in personal, individual responsibility.
most communists would have the opinion that it was not lazy. in fact, i suppose those folks on the permanent teat are already at the vanguard for living the communist dream- "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need".

and don't try to "read" anything racial into the above statements of truth. my territory covers s.e. ark, n. ms., and n.la., if it wasn't for the folks OF EVERY RACE that are willing to work there wouldn't be anything getting done in my part of the world. lazy crosses all racial barriers.

Posted by truly on 12-16-2009 01:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by john nannemann

as usual, but not always(once, anyway), your view and mine will not mesh, as i believe in personal, individual responsibility.
lazy crosses all racial barriers.

Yes, once again we would disagree, because I also believe in personal responsibility, but I extend it to my community and my country.[Remember-"Ask not what your country can do for you,but what can you do for your country"]. Your hatred of collectivism precludes you from caring about the society around you. That is sad.

I do appreciate and agree with your statement about laziness crossing racial barriers. You are right about that- despite statistics showing that single white females are the most likely to live in poverty in the U.S., there are many people of color also suffering. And now many white men too.

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Posted by truly on 12-16-2009 02:25 AM:

While we seem to agree on so little, I am curious what you think of this article.
[url]http://www.alternet.org/politics/144529/are_americans_a_broken_people_why_we[/ url]'ve_stopped_fighting_back_against_the_forces_o
f_oppression/

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Posted by bluecole on 12-16-2009 03:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by john nannemann
it's lazy- many are on the permanent teat, they are not counted in the "unemployment roles" because you can't make them work. this is not really even open for debate, it is simply a fact. and it is another reason we have many illegals working in this state as the locals find that working cuts into their leisure time. us that work call it lazy, the folks on the teat call it a "lifestyle choice". most folks that work in arkansas seem to do as well as THEIR ability and want to lets them- for example- jack and witt stevens( raised about 7 miles from where i live- in "poverty"), sam walton, don tyson, j.b. hunt, ect., ect.

as usual, but not always(once, anyway), your view and mine will not mesh, as i believe in personal, individual responsibility.
most communists would have the opinion that it was not lazy. in fact, i suppose those folks on the permanent teat are already at the vanguard for living the communist dream- "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need".

and don't try to "read" anything racial into the above statements of truth. my territory covers s.e. ark, n. ms., and n.la., if it wasn't for the folks OF EVERY RACE that are willing to work there wouldn't be anything getting done in my part of the world. lazy crosses all racial barriers.

I am curious,Hmm,if all the illegal aliens that are here that you have working for you decided too orginize a union and asked ya for more money and benefits for all the hard work that they do for YOU,would you still think that they are worth having over here working for you or would you find another poor race and take advantage of them.I am not pointing fingers,it is just an hypothetical question?

Posted by john nannemann on 12-16-2009 04:22 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bluecole
I am curious,Hmm,if all the illegal aliens that are here that you have working for you decided too orginize a union and asked ya for more money and benefits for all the hard work that they do for YOU,would you still think that they are worth having over here working for you or would you find another poor race and take advantage of them.I am not pointing fingers,it is just an hypothetical question?

i ain't working them. i ain't working nobody, and won't likely be any time soon. i do the minimum amount i can do and maintain the lifestyle i am comfortable with for myself and family. that's not to say i ain't working all the time, but i ain't making a lot extra to have it expropriated "in mass". been there, done that.

that being said, as a hypothetical, i wouldn't look for another "poor race", i'd just look for any PEOPLE that wanted to work and would not attempt to extort from me for a job that i gave them and I own and they agreed to do under the terms offered at the time of hire.

Posted by john nannemann on 12-16-2009 04:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly
While we seem to agree on so little, I am curious what you think of this article.
[url]http://www.alternet.org/politics/144529/are_americans_a_broken_people_why_we[/ url]'ve_stopped_fighting_back_against_the_forces_o
f_oppression/

sorry, went hunting for a little while, can't get the link to work. but just from what you put in the link title, i have been fighting against the forces of oppression for every individual in this country.

Posted by john nannemann on 12-16-2009 04:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly
Yes, once again we would disagree, because I also believe in personal responsibility, but I extend it to my community and my country.[Remember-"Ask not what your country can do for you,but what can you do for your country"]. Your hatred of collectivism precludes you from caring about the society around you. That is sad.

I do appreciate and agree with your statement about laziness crossing racial barriers. You are right about that- despite statistics showing that single white females are the most likely to live in poverty in the U.S., there are many people of color also suffering. And now many white men too.

i'm "doing" for my country truly, i'm fighting the ideological fight started by the founders of this country- the freedom for the individual. i know the collectivist ideologies will not work over time, lead to authoritarian/ totalitarian states, generally with paramilitary or military overtones. i do not wish this. as i know were the road leads, who do you think "cares about the society around". i'd say me, as i know "your" way leads to the downfall. that is very sad to me that you do not know your history. it is UNSUSTAINABLE.

as to the second paragraph- what did i tell you- "lifestyle choices". much "suffering" in life is self-inflicted.

Posted by Lipperman on 12-16-2009 05:08 AM:

Saw the Fed Chairman, Beranke, on the news the other night. To paraphrase him, "Well boys, we have hit bottom and are headed back up real fast. The good times are just right around the corner". I am in the concrete business down here in Texas, and somehow we must not have gotten the memo. To say that things were slow would be an insult to the word slow. Things are dead. I have been in business for 35 years and have never seen it this bad before. Once in the mid '80's it got slow for awhile but not like this. We are just hanging on by a fingernail. A man told me the other day that he thought they were going under. I told him that we were already breathing through a straw. One year ago I had 35 employees, today we have 9. Companies are taking jobs around here at below cost just to have some cash flow. It doesn't take a dummy long to figure out that a company cannot stay in business long doing that. If a job comes up and I want to bid on it, I have to cut it to the bone, and then most of the time we get beat. They are throwing around a lot of money up there in Washington, I just hope some of it sticks down here in Texas. I graduated from High School on a Friday night in 1970 and went to work on Monday morning. Since then I have never drawn one penny of welfare or been without a job of some kind. I have always believed that if a man wanted to work, there is always something he can do. So what if you have to change your lifestyle some. Get over it and find a job, somewhere.

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Posted by bluecole on 12-16-2009 06:38 AM:

hitting bottom

I believe we have been floating around down there for a while now.I also have worked even before i graduated high school,bailing hay,walking beans,detasling corn,fast food places shopping centers babysitting.(that all was while i was still in school)Then thier was the USMC, after that i got into an apprenticeship too be an electrician.it all went to **** in a handbasket in one night.now i just kind of hang out a LOT which really sucks bad, i have a lot of friends that work thier tails off and dont have nothin too show for it. Mainly its because their bosses DO NOT AND REFUSE to put up a fair wage,you really cant expect too find good help when they're still paying as least as they possibly can and get away with it.No one has any balls in the USA anymore too stand up for what they believe in.UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL!!!!Thats what i see is happening to our country,we dont own it anymore,its all in wallstreet

Posted by Sheriff Andy on 12-16-2009 12:55 PM:

Re: Re: Re: NE PA

quote:
Originally posted by treemydog32
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sheriff Andy
americans are lazy. that's why the mexicans get alot of the jobs. one thing they are not and that is lazy. and they don't work any cheaper around here, but they do work every day. they aint on probation. they don't miss work with hangovers and drug problems. i hate to here a man say a mexican took my job. i say buddy you gave him your job. sorry but this is my opinion. [/QUOTE

DID YOU BUMP YOUR HEAD?I THINK YOU MUST HAVE OR GA IS ALOT DIFFERENT THAN NC..

I will agree a mexican will work and are not lazy. They will do a lot of jobs that most people won't.But they will work for nothing and i mean nothing. Where there from they get paid nothing thats why they come to the USA for work.. They pack 20 to a house so their cost of living is down here, so they can send all their money back to their families. We, us american's, have to pay their health care and have special teachers at our schools to teach these mexican's and a lot of other goverment offices. Who pays for this? We do..Far as drug problems, where is most of the drugs brought to the US come from? Go do a search i bet you will find out a lot is imported from MEXICO...Who on the streets do you see selling drugs most? blacks and mexicans.Sure there are whites as well but the others out # us by a long shot...

I am a commercial fisherman and also have a constrution company..Did you know that a mexican can go to the state department here in NC and tell them he wants 2 become a commercial fisherman and the state will set them up in business free of charge..Thats right free new boat, crab pots, eel pots, nets,and a place to live tax free for 5 years....Same as in the construction business also..I could keep on and on but to finish it off anyone who supports them being here is the person who hires them because all they see is the allmighty dollar sign in there eyes. They can save money by giving out less to the mexicans, so it makes their pockets fatter and the hell with his own kind..We, us AMERICAN'S, needs to stick together and take our Country back before its to late..

hahahaha

yeah GA is alot different i guess. it's strange thing but we had drugs here along time before we had mexicans. biggest one is meth made right here. and i don't pay mexican men less than american, i pay them more. if you make me money, you make money. i guess i did bump my head, several times thank god.talk about the almighty dollar, it aint a bad thing. it pays my bills and puts gas in my truck so i can go huntingggggggg! i aint getting rich if thats what you think. i just make a living. and yes it is sad that americans don't want to work any more. i guess we gave a kids to much. spoiled em. i guess the government gives mexican people healthcare, i don't know, i don't care. they give it to bubba america too. i have met white trash. i ain't met mexican trash yet, although i'm sure they exsist. i would love to hire me some dandy good americans, just ain't seen any in a long time.i guess i got one of those jobs no body wants at just 600 a week.

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Posted by john nannemann on 12-16-2009 01:49 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: NE PA

quote:
Originally posted by Sheriff Andy
hahahaha

yeah GA is alot different i guess. it's strange thing but we had drugs here along time before we had mexicans. biggest one is meth made right here. and i don't pay mexican men less than american, i pay them more. if you make me money, you make money. i guess i did bump my head, several times thank god.talk about the almighty dollar, it aint a bad thing. it pays my bills and puts gas in my truck so i can go huntingggggggg! i aint getting rich if thats what you think. i just make a living. and yes it is sad that americans don't want to work any more. i guess we gave a kids to much. spoiled em. i guess the government gives mexican people healthcare, i don't know, i don't care. they give it to bubba america too. i have met white trash. i ain't met mexican trash yet, although i'm sure they exsist. i would love to hire me some dandy good americans, just ain't seen any in a long time.i guess i got one of those jobs no body wants at just 600 a week.

amen.
meth is one of the favorite "leisure time" pass times of the "leisure class" here in arkansas, also, pot heads and crack heads right there with it. the new "leisure class" being those that have figured out they have a whole lot more free time down scaling their life to what is available from the government teat on the 3rd then it is to work everyday. misplaced compassion has created the new, TRUE leisure class in this country.

like what i said above, some folks you can't make work. they will bleed the taxpayers, they will bleed their parents, they will bleed their "friends".

Posted by bluecole on 12-18-2009 05:44 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: NE PA

quote:
Originally posted by Sheriff Andy
hahahaha

yeah GA is alot different i guess. it's strange thing but we had drugs here along time before we had mexicans. biggest one is meth made right here. and i don't pay mexican men less than american, i pay them more. if you make me money, you make money. i guess i did bump my head, several times thank god.talk about the almighty dollar, it aint a bad thing. it pays my bills and puts gas in my truck so i can go huntingggggggg! i aint getting rich if thats what you think. i just make a living. and yes it is sad that americans don't want to work any more. i guess we gave a kids to much. spoiled em. i guess the government gives mexican people healthcare, i don't know, i don't care. they give it to bubba america too. i have met white trash. i ain't met mexican trash yet, although i'm sure they exsist. i would love to hire me some dandy good americans, just ain't seen any in a long time.i guess i got one of those jobs no body wants at just 600 a week.

if you haven't met mexican trash you must need glasses.I have met a few,there is losers in every race.Are you anti-american or what??maybe its time too start taking care of our own and the hell with everyone else.Maybe we should have a few more stricter policies enforced.I dont know how everyone else feals but i am a dandy good american as also you probably are.drugs have been around for a long time indeed,maybe you should go and visit a correctional facility and check out who most of the men and women are that WE are feeding and housing resemble,DONT FOOL YOURSELF MAN.

Posted by stonecutter25 on 12-18-2009 02:08 PM:

The person to blame

The person to blame is sittin in texas with a big glass of ice tea living lavish while he sits back watches us try to bounce back from the damages he done for 8 years straight he accomplished his goal of driving up fuel costs for his on benefit of retirement now can you guess who that person is well if you don't know here's a clue G.W.B.

Posted by treberta on 12-18-2009 02:22 PM:

Re: The person to blame

quote:
Originally posted by stonecutter25
The person to blame is sittin in texas with a big glass of ice tea living lavish while he sits back watches us try to bounce back from the damages he done for 8 years straight he accomplished his goal of driving up fuel costs for his on benefit of retirement now can you guess who that person is well if you don't know here's a clue G.W.B.

My my my. Just hold youre breath stone!!!!!!!!! SOON and I MEAN V E R Y soon OBAMA will save the day!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What a joke.

Posted by stonecutter25 on 12-18-2009 03:00 PM:

Re: Re: The person to blame

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
My my my. Just hold youre breath stone!!!!!!!!! SOON and I MEAN V E R Y soon OBAMA will save the day!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What a joke.

Well the ? who put Obama in he didn't do it by his self it was what you call hmmm a majority thing that put him in there will he make better don't know it might get worse it might get better but the govt. is so messed up people look at him and for some reason they 8 years of damage can be changed at a snap of a finger but it's not possible heck this govt. might not get back on it's feet totally for another 20 years just from 8 years of destruction to the American economy but the American people well be back on top again if come together as a people instead of always fighting with in ourselves and blaming other people for there downfalls

Posted by treberta on 12-18-2009 03:12 PM:

Re: Re: Re: The person to blame

quote:
Originally posted by stonecutter25
Well the ? who put Obama in he didn't do it by his self it was what you call hmmm a majority thing that put him in there will he make better don't know it might get worse it might get better but the govt. is so messed up people look at him and for some reason they 8 years of damage can be changed at a snap of a finger but it's not possible heck this govt. might not get back on it's feet totally for another 20 years just from 8 years of destruction to the American economy but the American people well be back on top again if come together as a people instead of always fighting with in ourselves and blaming other people for there downfalls

I agree with you. I do not make promises very often but I can and will assure you that Obama is out to completly destroy what credibility this country has left. He is not intrested in the common man nor americans. He is more concerned with famine and poverty in other countries. I do honestly believe at the end of his term he will go down as the worst president in american history.

A person on here had a signature that went like this. "Osama vs. Obama = Just a little B S.

Posted by stonecutter25 on 12-18-2009 03:52 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: The person to blame

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
I agree with you. I do not make promises very often but I can and will assure you that Obama is out to completly destroy what credibility this country has left. He is not intrested in the common man nor americans. He is more concerned with famine and poverty in other countries. I do honestly believe at the end of his term he will go down as the worst president in american history.

A person on here had a signature that went like this. "Osama vs. Obama = Just a little B S.

What will bush go down as and how is not for the common man when he was once a common man his self and as far as osama vs obama = just a lil bs then what was bush vs hussein= spending billions of dollars on war of which many american soldiers lives were taken on account finding weapons of mass destruction which we still haven't seen. C'mon man be realistic so what would be the difference if mccain was in huh we would still be in the same situation we are in right now things can't be fixed overnight so for some reason alot of people think it can and also as far as credibility being destoyed it has been gone evry since people starting getting over there heads in buying new cars and homes and not thinking about well how will I be able to pay for this $250,000 home or $50,000 big truck or nice car if i hit a bump in the road later on so what happens foreclosures and reposessions and that = banks filled up with all of this homes and cars people couldn't pay for so they are losing money and don't want to lend to a common man trying to buy home or car with ok credit without having to pay super high interest rates I mean think about if you got millions of homes and cars coming back to you what do you do why build brand new homes and cars if you already have a stock pile of them that you already need to get rid of ?

Posted by jackbob42 on 12-18-2009 04:03 PM:

Well , lets see...........
The job market around here?
Well , Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the country , and Montcalm County has the highest unemployment rate in Michigan. And I live in the middle of Montcalm County !
NOT GOOD around here !
I give thanks every day that I still have a decent job.

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Posted by bluecole on 12-18-2009 04:05 PM:

oh well

their really is no reason too point fingers anymore,just ride the wave and coon hunt while we all still can.THEY ALL SUCK

Posted by stonecutter25 on 12-18-2009 04:09 PM:

Re: oh well

quote:
Originally posted by bluecole
their really is no reason too point fingers anymore,just ride the wave and coon hunt while we all still can.THEY ALL SUCK

That's right cause the damage has already been done so let's just sit back and talk about the goodtimes of coonhunting and instead of politics and the washington b.s.

Posted by bluecole on 12-18-2009 11:15 PM:

speaking of coonhuntin

how has everybody been doing in the woods,coon are gettin fairly scarce around these parts.maybe it's just my coondog.

Posted by JeremyBayless on 12-19-2009 04:45 AM:

jobs

quote:
Originally posted by jackbob42
Well , lets see...........
The job market around here?
Well , Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the country , and Montcalm County has the highest unemployment rate in Michigan. And I live in the middle of Montcalm County !
NOT GOOD around here !
I give thanks every day that I still have a decent job.

THANK YOU
All I ask is how the job market in your area and I get Mexican this Drugs that Obama,Bush bla,bla,bla
I just wanted to know in compairison to my area how everyone was getting bye.
Once agian I dont like them shiping people from other countrys taking our AMERICAN jobs and I CANT STAND OBAMA I belive he is the WORST mistake this Country has and will ever see but hes there what can we do 'NOTHING" So can we stick to the subject!!!
So hows the job market where you live

Sucks here!!

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