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The "old masters" to train a pup IS the way to go 90% of the time. I've got 'em, sounds like you don't. Sometimes you just got to train a pup by it's self and there is a world of difference in an old "master' and an old dog. A pup, Like a college kid, learns as much from a professor as a dam fool professor. I hope I don't have to go back to training another pup by itself. It takes 2 or 3 times the concentration and 2 or 3 times as long. But it can be done and I will say that the one's trained by me,not by a dog, that did not go to the waste basket, turned out to be a "cut above" those trained by an old dog. And when they got Mature, not old, they turned out to be my pup trainers. That's why I say, "to he-- with an independent dog. The ones I trained by themselves should have been the "independant dogs" right? But no, They turned out to check a young hellion on trash and "put in" if it's a coon or either come out or go find a coon. Eighther way, they were telling on the little hellion.

At your stage and your dog's stage. If you don't think you got what it takes or your dog does'nt have what it takes, by all means' find a master. Maybe you got a silent dog, It's too early to tell on a 10 month old pup; maybe silent ,maybe not. Some people like silent dogs; others don't. I, myself, and don't let this sway you one way or the other, is I like a dog that takes the first track it can run and tree it. The dog ain't got to do 50mph half a mile or two to "see" one crawl up a tree and crank out 100 barks per minute. 50 bpm is fine by me if they open right to tell me hot or cold.

No more caged coons for her. I only have two guys I hunt with, and they don't hunt as often as I do, but I'll try to get them going more often so I can hunt her with their dogs. I'm gonna try Hobo's idea as soon as I can. Thanks for the help I really appreciate it.

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James King
Vincennes, IN

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Originally posted by HOBO
I don't think I'd knock anymore out to her untill she actually treed on it. What you might try to do is find another hunter you can hunt with and when their dog trees if she's there and not treeing tie her back and knock the coon out to the other dog and just ignore her. Do this again till she starts treeing I wouldn't think it would take her to long to figure it out.

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Bryan J.

SAVE THE COON, HUNT WITH A HOUND!

I still haven't had the opportunity to try Hobo's idea, but I had a pretty productive night last night anyway. My pup struck a track and opened up. After a few minutes of her and my buddies pup tracking they treed on a creek bank. She actually barked treed, she was really hammering away. I then found out why, when she went into the creek and pulled the opossom out of the hole in the bank. Even though it was an opossom, she did a fine job. I didn't praise her for it, and she actually started to tree harder. I can always break her off of opossoms later, so she didn't get any praise or discipline. I was just happy the two pups did it alone.

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James King
Vincennes, IN

She's no longer silent.