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Posted by M Mauger on 11-07-2009 12:03 PM:

Ill take English any day!! Owned a walker and a black dawg and didnt care for either... They both minded good and behaved but just not very accurate? Just my preference now!

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Posted by Justin B on 11-09-2009 12:47 AM:

I hunt walkers because alot of other breeds seem to lack in mouth when it comes to females and I like to hunt females. I also don't like listening to one trail around on a track they can't handle all night and walkers as a whole don't seem to do that. I would rather have a hot to medium nosed dog who can go a little farther and tree one in 5 minutes than on who takes 2 hours to work their track to the tree.

Posted by coonhuntercp on 11-09-2009 01:21 AM:

I have a walker and a BnT right now. I started with an old Bluetick pot licker that couldn't tree a possum, but I had fun everynight. After that I had a real nice Redtick english female that treed a bunch of coon. I had a walker pup that was coming on nice and someone stole him. After that I had the best dog I ever owned. I didn't get him until he was 9, but had three of the best years I ever had coon hunting. He was a Walker and have stuck with them ever since. The black dog was a present for my daughter. Always wanted a black dog. Also had a Redbone for awhile, but he was mean so he isn't with us anymore.

Posted by shaunvd on 11-09-2009 02:21 AM:

redbones

ive always hunted reddogs there loyle stong headed and dont put up with crap the truth is you dont buy good redbone you make them i got a 5 tr old female id put against anything for seeing coon all nightplus up here in nepa im pretty much the onlyredbone man around i love going to the hunts and winning with them not like those slick treeing walkers breeders today took the nose out of them and put in there mouth lol

Posted by coonhunter2010 on 11-09-2009 03:00 AM:

I like redbones myself but i'll tell u this right now a good coon dog is never the wrong color. As long as they put meat on the limb it don't matter wat breed it is.

Posted by Ray Lilly on 11-09-2009 03:23 AM:

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Posted by l.lyle on 11-09-2009 09:30 AM:

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mt curs for me also.i hunted hounds for years till i got turned on to curs.squirrels by day coon at night what more can you ask for.thanks ron

Tonight for example. I took my WalkerX Leopard. My twelve year old Walker (grandaddy) and a Registered leopad hound. The killing season started two months ago but the alligators didn't know it, so tonight was the second night I hunted but the first in six months for these particular dogs. The crossbred pup treed and shot that one. Did not leash him and he fell treed back near the truck, Killed #2. Loaded and took the leopard to a bird patch and led him by the collar 50 feet to the edge of a swamp. He struck in ten feet. Sniffed along the top of a fallen dead tree and treed about 40 feet away.. I shined. nothin. Cussed a little, he left but re-did the same thing. Cussed some more and shined again, not to see an eye, but to see a tail. Coon tail. I really thought squrrels had been running up and down that dead log, and I shure felt bad about the cussing.
Hunt walkers, tree in five minutes, drive 1/4, walk 200 yards, maybe cooneye,maybe hollow, leafy but maybe slick. Hunt sguirrel/coon combo's, strike at your feet, watch what's going on, put the coon on the ground in 5 minutes. You decide.

Posted by kyle m on 11-09-2009 01:32 PM:

english

i like an english dog. the line i've been hunting for the lasty 4 to 5 yrs i really like, the are independen as ne thing i've seent. i can count on 1 hand how many times my dog has backed dogs in the last 5 yrs. which is great becuz i'm not gunna have my dogs backin another. but more than anything there are consistant. i did take a dog in to hunt for a guy , she is a walker dog off noturnal kain, she is a nice pup, real independent, split tree and stay!!!!!!!!!!!! real good bout having them coons 2. so don't quess i can kick the walker dogs lol.

Posted by wrinkletreeknls on 11-09-2009 01:33 PM:

JMO walker's have too much tree bred into them anymore, and everyone has them, alot of alligators, i like to hear a bluetick run, but they are to boo hooey for me, the redbones i've hunted with didn't tree as close to the tree as i like, leopards i've went with were TOO gritty. I found the perfect mix in the black and tan breed.

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Posted by treberta on 11-09-2009 02:58 PM:

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Originally posted by wrinkletreeknls
JMO walker's have too much tree bred into them anymore, and everyone has them, alot of alligators, i like to hear a bluetick run, but they are to boo hooey for me, the redbones i've hunted with didn't tree as close to the tree as i like, leopards i've went with were TOO gritty. I found the perfect mix in the black and tan breed.

None of my Walkers have too much tree in them. If treeing 3 single coon in a half hour is too much tree them I guess im guilty

I don't like to wait a half hour on a regular basis to tree a coon. I want mine fired in there and treed. With the several walkers I have owned they do that on a regular basis for me.

Posted by PlottChaser on 11-09-2009 11:28 PM:

I hunt Plotts cause I like em. Lots of reasons. Probably a lot of other dogs I would like too, but right now got Plotts and sticking with them for awhile.

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Posted by wrinkletreeknls on 11-09-2009 11:42 PM:

None of my Walkers have too much tree in them. If treeing 3 single coon in a half hour is too much tree them I guess im guilty

it is true a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again ha ha ha

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Posted by Dan McDonough on 11-10-2009 01:48 AM:

Leopard Hounds...

I hunt Leopards. I mostly bobcat hunt. Hunted walkers quite a bit but needed a Mtn. Cur to close the deal faster. Thought about it one day and tryied to find a breed that could handle both sides of the track. The Loepard folks said they had the dog for me. I tried them and have never looked back. I still have one Walker but she acts a lot like a Leopard so she stays. Honest, fast and like to put thier teeth into criters. Heads up and ACCURATE!

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Posted by stonehill on 07-02-2012 01:54 AM:

Re: English, Walker, Bluetic, Plott, Redbone, Black and Tan, American Leapord, and Cur

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I wouuld like some peoples input as to why you hunt the specific breed that you do.

Thanks

This is a very interesting thread, let's hear some more opinions.

Posted by Cody Carroll on 07-02-2012 02:12 AM:

I started out hunting English. Then I hunted a walker for a guy and I really liked her so I bought her. I liked winning so I stuck with walkers. She was quick, really accurate, independent and loud. And of course there are more slick treeing, mean, junky walkers out there because there are more walkers than anything. It's all about odds and percentages. But when you have a really tough walker they are hard to beat

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Posted by nocturnalwhip on 07-02-2012 04:25 AM:

Walkers

I started with a blue tick he didn't work out traded him for a walker and have had walkers every sence. I've had every breed there is in the mean time it just seems finding a good one is easier in the walker breed and due to the abundance of walkers they are cheaper to buy you can buy grandnight Waller females all the time between 2 and three thousand but a grandnight redbone or plot female at a younger age would be five thousand plus in most cases so these are the reasons I hunt walkers

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Posted by vernonsdream on 07-02-2012 04:39 AM:

Just curious as to why some of y'all prefer to hunt females?

Posted by nocturnalwhip on 07-02-2012 04:56 AM:

Not as apt to fight and if u have a good female u can go to anyone's male and breed but if u have a male you have to buy a female to breed to him most times

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Posted by Cody Carroll on 07-02-2012 05:14 AM:

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Just curious as to why some of y'all prefer to hunt females?

I've just always had better luck with females. They seem to be more consistent for me

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Posted by ForkdOaksKennel on 07-03-2012 06:55 AM:

Coondogs are like trucks. Everybody likes somethin different and what they like is the best. It all depends on what you want out of your dog. If you are new at this I would go with a walker. They train pretty easy. There are good and bad in every breed (dogs and people).

Posted by l.lyle on 07-03-2012 07:12 AM:

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Coondogs are like trucks. Everybody likes somethin different and what they like is the best. It all depends on what you want out of your dog. If you are new at this I would go with a walker. They train pretty easy. There are good and bad in every breed (dogs and people).

Yep and if you are new to this I would go with a walker, they are easy to train.> And if you are new to ball fetching I'd go with a Lab. They are easy to train by two months old.

Posted by smokin-1-mo on 07-03-2012 02:15 PM:

HUNTED WALKERS FOR 33 YEARS AND WITH WHAT I WAS SEEING OUT OF THEM IT WAS TIME FOR A CHANGE...THATS WHEN I SWITCHED TO ENGLISH DOGS ABOUT 7 YEARS AGO IT WAS A GOOD THING.....GOOD MOUTHS,TRACK DOGS AND HAVE THE...MEAT...WHEN THEY TREE...

Posted by michael.magorian on 07-03-2012 04:36 PM:

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BLACK N TANS is what my family has hunted for years. ive hunted all breeds and like a good black dog. and not to mention they are the best lookin breed lol.

I would agree completely. I'm not color blind by any means, but the black and tans that I have spent much time with are the only ones that have been able to put together brains and hunting ability. I know there are pleanty of great hounds of other breeds out there, I just honestly haven't seen one yet. I take that back, one of the best hounds I have ever hunted with was an old plott (I believe this hound is very special).

I also might be a bit biased. I would trade some hunting ability for some brains any day of the week. I can't stand dumb dogs; ie bark in the box for no reason, won't listen, terrible on lead, and everything else that aggrivates me.

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Posted by Giveem3outdoors on 07-04-2012 01:45 AM:

I hunt English that's what I started with owned a walker once walked to to many slick trees. I like the accuracy the E
nglish dogs have.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-04-2012 02:36 AM:

There's only one right kind. Color doesnt matter. Quick-accurate-independent-consistent-stay put tree dog. If you have this you have what all hunters strive for. If you dont have this get it because once you do half azzed dogs will not cut the mustard. The question for me is what breed offers more of what i described? It is without question walkers. English close second. Its no coincidence they both dominate the 2 main kennel clubs.

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