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Snow is not that hard to track in its the ice that kills hounds from what Ive seen. Id love to come hunt in the snow that sounds like all kinsd of fun. I think that coondogs are like racehorses, in the way that if you breed a horse to run he is gonna run, he may not be the fastest horse in the lot but he is going to run, the same way with hounds, if they are bred to tree coons they are going to tree, may not be the best but they are going to. The location of the hound really does not matter at how good they are going to be, its the time and patience the owner invests and the caliber hound they are hunted with, whether it be North, South, east, West Florida or China its the breeding and the teaching they get. I own a hound that I saved from the pound, he is a young bluetick dog, and I will put him in the woods with any dog. Is he the best in the woods no but he is a coondog, nothing special just a regular coondawg! Hows the hunting in the snow? Wouldnt that be hell walkin through?

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NEOKHUNTER, they have done just what you want. They call it the world hunt. Three of the four dogs in the final were from the north and the other was from W.V and some say that is the north. Look at the dogs that make the final in all the world hunts the dogs from the north have more than held their own year after year. I have hunted all the states you talked about and can tell you first hand the dogs are no better than up north. We have 8 in. of snow on the ground here bring your best and lets see what it can do. My dogs will tree coons in this weather. Half of our season is in this kind of weather. The seasons in the south is a cake walk when you look at the two. Your weather is great down there when you look at ours. I have had many dogs from the south and most of them are NOT the dog here that they are in the south. Some of them do come around but most never make the grade up here that they do down south.

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if you realy want to test a hound bring it up to northern maine we go ceder swamps were the ground moves under foot beaver floages thousands of acres of roadless woods snow any time after the first of october till april and sub 0 temps and a small coon population.

arkansas hunting can be pretty tough

They are just dogs and very capable of looking like crap in every state in the union, includeing their own backyard.

Anyone that thinks otherwise either hassnt hunted much or just lies to himself.

I'd say McDowell co. West Virginia is the toughest hunting I've seen yet. Thin coon and the hills are strait up and down. Also lot's of laid down timber that is left behind by logging companies. An old cold nosed hound seemed to do the best. Here in Indiana coon are thick and it's easy to tree a coon but, them cold nosed dogs seem to be a headache when a good hot nosed dog is treeing 3 too your 1. For the comp. hunts you better have a good hound and some luck to Grand one out around here.

I have lived in Ohio and now live in South Carolina the biggest differrence I have seen is getting young dogs started ,it is alot easier up north more coon to get the young dogs on here it can be tough cause of the droughts and few coon.I have had mine in about 10 different states and was pleased with them in all .

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They are just dogs and very capable of looking like crap in every state in the union, includeing their own backyard.

Anyone that thinks otherwise either hassnt hunted much or just lies to himself.

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If a hound that is hunted in the north has the drive to go until treed I think he can do the same in the states that you mentioned!! In reality it comes down to drive in your area to where a hound has to go find a single track how ever far he has to go and tree it!! In our area a hound has to have brains to be able to unravel a bunch of tracks criss crossing themselves , hot or cold and put a coon up a tree a biggest % of the time!! It's a lot easier to run a single track and put an end to it than it is to go through a maze of tracks and find the right tree!! One track leading to a tree and the coon climbs!! No problem!! I'm in!! Ohio!! Give us northen boys a break!! LOL

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IM IN THE COST GUARD AND MOVE A LOT

SO I GET TO HUNT MY DOG IN ALL KINDS OF PLACES. I STARTED IN NORTH WESTERN WEST VIRGINIA THEN GOT MOVED TO YORKTOWN VIRGINIA THEN UP TO CHARLEVOIX, MI NOW I AM DOEN HERE IN SOUTHERN MS IN NATCHEZ. ALL THIS MOVING HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAT 5 YEARS. I GOT MY DOG AS A PUP IN WV AND TRAINED HIM THERE AND TREED COONS GOOD FOR 2 YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU IT TAKES ABOUT A MONTH OF HUNTING A NEW AREA BEFORE HE LOOKS GREAT. HE CAN ALWAYS TREE COONS IN A NEW PLACE BUT DOESNT LOOK LIKE HIS OLD SELF FOR ABOUT A MONTH OR SO. IVE BEEN IN SOUTHERN MS FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW AND THIS PLACE IS BY FAR THE HARDEST PLACE TO TREE A COON. HE GETS IT DONE BUT IT TAKES LONGER CAUSE THEY RUN FARTHER ITS SO THICK AND NASTY THE COONS FEEL LIKE THEY CAN RUN FOREVER. I CAN USALLY TAKE HIM OUT AND TREE 2 COONS IN ABOUT 2 OR 3 HOURS TIME. IN THE OTHER STATES I COULD HAVE TREED 4 OR 5 IN THAT TIME, SEEMS LIKE WHEN HE STARTED A TRACK IN WV IT ONLY TOOK 5 OR 10 MINUTES TO TREE IT. HERE IN MS IT TAKES 30 OR 40 TO TREE IT SOMTIMES LONGER.

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For all those that haven't hunted in Coldwater, MI, make sure you wear gloves, don't touch nothing, and make sure your bladder is empty..............makes for a long miserable ride home back to FL

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These posts "amaze" me....

Folks, there is such a thing as "home court advantage".

Over the course of the last ten years, I've done a fair share of traveling with hounds, both coon hounds and beagles. Conditions differ in different parts of the country....it's just that simple.

My sandy loam soil here in Northern Indiana does not smell the same as the dry sandy soil in Oklahoma...and of course, my dogs are going to have to get used to it.

Sure, I have some lowland swamps here...but nothing to compare with coastal regions.... Does that mean that my dogs won't be able to work a coon in a swamp? NO.....but it means that they don't have as much experience in doing so.

In my experience, any dog worth it's salt has the ability to ADAPT....that means that given three, four, or five nights in any one location...it will adapt to the conditions and tree coon!

You guys from areas of the country where coon are scarce just kill me, wearing your thin coon population like a badge of honor. I've hunted in some of these areas, and it takes no more of a dog to tree a coon there than anywhere in the country...all they gotta do is find one! Finding the only coon in a three square mile radius is no real feat of "skill"...it's mostly luck and persistence

It's not any different than finding a coon in northern Indiana right now....snow cover, cold nights...coon are denned up and not moving. If you hunt long enough, if you hunt hard enough, if you cover enough ground...you'll find ONE. It's not the snow that makes the hunting difficult on a dog, it's finding that one coon in a three square mile radius that has left the safe confines of the nice warm, cozy den tree!

Having coon hunted from Minnesota to South Georgia/North Florida, and from Eastern Pennsylvania to Oklahoma....and all points in between....I can proudly say that in each of those locations....my dogs were able to tree coon. Some nights they looked as good as the dogs with the home court advantage...others they did not. In each case though...if I hauled a dog and stayed long enough for them to adjust...you would never know that they came from "coon country".

Now I've seen a whole lot of dogs that came from thin coon population that seemed to really struggle, sometimes not ever being able to fully adjust to lots of coon.

So please, stop believing that dogs from thick coon country can't tree a coon in thin coon.....it's just not true...

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I said it once il say it again jump in your trucks come on up. its plenty nice today. high of 15 low -2 winds semi calm 10 to 15mph when done hunting lets catch some fish. winter is the best for just about every thing. except geze I dont no

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I HAVE HUNTED THE NORTHERN STATES AS WELL AS MANY OF THE SOUTHERN STATES.MOST OF THE TIME MY DOGS TOOK A COUPLE OF NITES TO ADAPT.I DID NOTICE WHEN I WAS GOING UP NORTH THAT IF I HAD A TIGHT MOUTH DOG IT DONE A LITTLE BETTER UP THERE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY DID OK.I BOUGHT SEVERAL DOGS OUT OF MISSOURI AND KANSAS THAT WORKED GOOD IN THIS COUNTRY.HERE IS THE KICKER THAT SEEMS TO HURT THE DOGS UNTIL THEY ADAPT AND THAT IS NOT TREEING COON.IF YOUR DOG TREED THEM IN THE NORTH HE WILL TREE THEM IN THE SOUTH AND VISE VERSA.THE THING THAT HURTS A DOG FROM OTHER PLACES HUNTING DOWN HERE IS WHERE TO HUNT TO STRIKE A COON.A FRIEND OF MINE FROM SPICELAND IND.CAME DOWN TO HUNT WITH ME A FEW NITES AND HE GOT SO MAD AT HIS DOG CAUSE HE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING COON IN THIS COUNTRY.AFTER 3 OR4 NITES HE WAS ADAPTING.STILL A COON DOG.ON THE OTHER I WENT BACK UP AND HUNTED AFEW NITES WIHT HIM AND MY DOG COULDNOT TREE NOTHING CLOSE. WE WOULD WALK BY HIS DOG TREED WITH A COON GOING TO MY DOG EVERY TIME.BUT GUESS WHAT THEY ARE STILL COON DOGS. TOMMY CURTIS

Ron

I have been thinking about going to the reunion again this year! When I hunted Gauge down there last year it was tough with all the rain, thunder and lightning but had a good time! Fri. we treed a few coon and on Sat. night Gauge got in deep and treed the only coon on the cast that was plussed!! I liked the places where we hunted and had a good time. With better weather it would have been better maybe!! Never know I guess. You would be more than welcome to come along on the cast if I hunt in it!! I had 5 spectators last year on Fri. nite. We had a blast!! Thinking about more pkc pro hunts this year than ukc but who knows. I sold a pup to a guy that guided our csat on Fri. night, Craig Cooper is his name. Sure would like to see his pup go! He just turned 10 months old and says he is doing real nice job for him! I'll let ya know if I'm coming down! Later, Danny G.

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I said it once il say it again jump in your trucks come on up. its plenty nice today. high of 15 low -2 winds semi calm 10 to 15mph when done hunting lets catch some fish. winter is the best for just about every thing. except geze I dont no

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A COON DOG

IS A COON DOG NO MATER WHERE YOU UNSNAP HIM

They are just dogs and very capable of looking like crap in every state in the union,

Elvis, you make a great point. I just hunt around Southwest Ohio 98% of the time. I sure seem to have my fair share of nights when my biscuit eaters don't look worth a hoot in their own back yard, let alone out of state! LOL They are just dogs, not machines. I think over 90% of dogs taken to a different part of the country to hunt will need some time to adjust. Some may need more than others. I'm still looking for that 95% accurate one! LOL

How many

How many of you guys are coming to the Battle this weekend?

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A few possum dogs and .22 rifle thats dead on!

I've had the best of both worlds.i live in nw ohio where the wind blows all the time and its colder than piss.i know its colder in other places but does really matter below ZERO is below zero.But i was raised in Harlan ky and walked behind my grandpa bud osborne.up one holler,cross the next ridge and up yonder' above that 50 ft. high wall where they strip mined ol'king jr was treed. took us purdy near all night to get there an back to the house where iwas raised and he still lives today at the head of wildcat holler. i still hunt there every now an then but paps dont hunt no more due to as he puts it coonhuntin was comein tween him and the lord.(staying home from church to hunt.shhhhh.)so a good dog is a good dog ,goodn's just tree more up here.

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Re: It depends on a hounds drive!!

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Originally posted by Danny Glista
If a hound that is hunted in the north has the drive to go until treed I think he can do the same in the states that you mentioned!! In reality it comes down to drive in your area to where a hound has to go find a single track how ever far he has to go and tree it!! In our area a hound has to have brains to be able to unravel a bunch of tracks criss crossing themselves , hot or cold and put a coon up a tree a biggest % of the time!! It's a lot easier to run a single track and put an end to it than it is to go through a maze of tracks and find the right tree!! One track leading to a tree and the coon climbs!! No problem!! I'm in!! Ohio!! Give us northen boys a break!! LOL

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These posts "amaze" me....

Folks, there is such a thing as "home court advantage".

Over the course of the last ten years, I've done a fair share of traveling with hounds, both coon hounds and beagles. Conditions differ in different parts of the country....it's just that simple.

My sandy loam soil here in Northern Indiana does not smell the same as the dry sandy soil in Oklahoma...and of course, my dogs are going to have to get used to it.

Sure, I have some lowland swamps here...but nothing to compare with coastal regions.... Does that mean that my dogs won't be able to work a coon in a swamp? NO.....but it means that they don't have as much experience in doing so.

In my experience, any dog worth it's salt has the ability to ADAPT....that means that given three, four, or five nights in any one location...it will adapt to the conditions and tree coon!

You guys from areas of the country where coon are scarce just kill me, wearing your thin coon population like a badge of honor. I've hunted in some of these areas, and it takes no more of a dog to tree a coon there than anywhere in the country...all they gotta do is find one! Finding the only coon in a three square mile radius is no real feat of "skill"...it's mostly luck and persistence

It's not any different than finding a coon in northern Indiana right now....snow cover, cold nights...coon are denned up and not moving. If you hunt long enough, if you hunt hard enough, if you cover enough ground...you'll find ONE. It's not the snow that makes the hunting difficult on a dog, it's finding that one coon in a three square mile radius that has left the safe confines of the nice warm, cozy den tree!

Having coon hunted from Minnesota to South Georgia/North Florida, and from Eastern Pennsylvania to Oklahoma....and all points in between....I can proudly say that in each of those locations....my dogs were able to tree coon. Some nights they looked as good as the dogs with the home court advantage...others they did not. In each case though...if I hauled a dog and stayed long enough for them to adjust...you would never know that they came from "coon country".

Now I've seen a whole lot of dogs that came from thin coon population that seemed to really struggle, sometimes not ever being able to fully adjust to lots of coon.

So please, stop believing that dogs from thick coon country can't tree a coon in thin coon.....it's just not true...

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I would love to be able to travel this wonderful country.to coon hunt. but i cant sow I will stay in this coon infested country I live in. and enjoy it. but if anyone wants to see this young dog run. you can send me a blank check. and i will come rite down. so please send that check.I believe she will tree coons anywere she goes

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