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Posted by HOBO on 11-18-2008 05:51 PM:

I think it depends on how much you've actually hunted them. They can't learn anything sitting on the end of a chain or in the dog pen.

If they have been messed with/hunted like they should be I expect most of mine to be running and treeing with the older dogs and to have split treed a few times with a coon sitting over them.

Do they all do this? NO.. If you do YOUR PART the majority of them should be running and treeing some by 9 months old.

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Posted by MRC on 11-18-2008 06:06 PM:

It really depends on how much they've been messed with. The main thing I look for is the interest and desire to do SOMETHING.... Pups are like people, they all develop at different rates....

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Posted by MikeO on 11-18-2008 07:39 PM:

shoot, ive even had bootix that ran and treed at 9 months old.

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Posted by HOBO on 11-18-2008 07:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeO
shoot, ive even had bootix that ran and treed at 9 months old.

Lets not get toooooooooooooooooo carried away...

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Posted by MikeO on 11-18-2008 07:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeO
shoot, ive even had bootix that ran and treed at 9 months old.

i have, i even got witnesses lol lol! i know i shoulda took pics nobody's gonna believe that. lmao

i had a 9 month old bootick run a deer 4 or 5 miles one night!

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 08:07 PM:

I HAVE A FEMALE PUP THAT JUST TURN 7 MONTHS OUT OUT OF OL CHUBBY. SHE SPLIT TREE TREED THE FIRST NIGHT IN THE WOODS AND NEVER SEEN A COON BEFORE IN HER LIFE!!! BUT I LIKE A DOG THAT STARTS AT AROUND YEAR OLD FOR ME . IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MAKE BETTER HOUNDS THEN THE ONES THAT START EARLY. BUT I WILL OWN EATHER ONE. IT SEEM LIKE TO ME TODAY WE EXPECT TO MUCH OUT OF ARE PUPS. I CAN REMEBER BACK 30 YEARS AGO WHEN A HOUND WOULDNT START INTILL ABOUT 2 YEARS OLD.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 11-18-2008 08:43 PM:

At nine months old, They should be running a little trash, and gettin in trouble. LOL

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 11-18-2008 08:52 PM:

i think it depends on if there kenneled or running loose...if they are running loose where they are exposed to coon, i would expect them to be running and treeing some...kenneled pups seem to be 6mo. behind on training compared to pups that are free to run...

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Posted by MikeO on 11-18-2008 08:55 PM:

I'm helping my brother start his black n tan gyp right now shes 6 months old. after just a few times in the woods shes starting to show interest. he seemed a little discouraged after seeing what my 6 month old walker pup was doing already but i just told him I've had my pup in the woods 3 months already that makes a difference. plus early starter doesn't necessarily mean their gonna make a coondog.

Posted by SoSh on 11-18-2008 08:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
I "expect" mine to be treeing some coons by then. He better be.

smokey7, if you've got 9 mo. old pups going a mile and a half, over mountians, by itself, to tree one of the few coon that you have, put me down on the list for your next litter!

Posted by President on 11-18-2008 11:37 PM:

btt

when i rase a pup if it will not hunt and run and tree its owen coon befor 9 months it get a 22 to maney good ones to wast your time on a bad one.i let my run loose to start them and it makes them train easer if they are going to make it

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 11-18-2008 11:48 PM:

by 9mths he should be real ugly calico ear,crooked tail
blue eyes and only then will i start him. kill season i expect
him to be a natural meat head and get 30 coons out to him.
they should serve as feeders for all the possums i am fixing
to knock out to him.

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 11:49 PM:

Re: btt

quote:
Originally posted by President
when i rase a pup if it will not hunt and run and tree its owen coon befor 9 months it get a 22 to maney good ones to wast your time on a bad one.i let my run loose to start them and it makes them train easer if they are going to make it

PEOPLE DONT NEED TO SELL YOU A PUP. EVER PUP ISNT THE SAME. YOU DONT EVEN GIVE THE PUPS ACHANCE FEEDING A 22 BULLET AT THAT AGE. WHAT DID YOU DO THE PUPS BACK IN THE 70 THAT DIDNT START TILL THEY WERE 2 YEARS OLD?

Posted by Keith Hodge on 11-18-2008 11:57 PM:

I agree Jay if you shoot a dog at 9 months old you have no business with any. You would need a whole lot of confidence in your bloodline if your gonna kill em at 9 months old. I also bet he aint spending much on them pups.

Posted by Maniac on 11-19-2008 12:06 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Keith Hodge
I agree Jay if you shoot a dog at 9 months old you have no business with any. You would need a whole lot of confidence in your bloodline if your gonna kill em at 9 months old. I also bet he aint spending much on them pups.

KEITH YOU PROBLEY ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE MONEY PART. BUT THIS IS WHY THEIR IS ALOT A PUPS THAT DONT MAKE IT PEOPLE LIKE THIS. THEN THEY WANT TO BAD MOUTH THE STUD DOG!!!

Posted by mnman on 11-19-2008 03:00 AM:

Wow if theres that many 9mo old dogs running and treeing alone. Why is thier so many dogs for sale at 1 yr and older saying lightly started or started. lol. And treeing with older dogs. lol

Posted by Bill(Chew) on 11-19-2008 03:21 AM:

President, please let me spare you the cost of a bullet on your next 9 month old. At that age most are just getting right to start.

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Posted by anscox on 11-19-2008 04:43 AM:

It's no small wonder that PETA hates us!

According to them all hunters are just vicious butchers who torture and kill the cute little cuddly coons...

Now we have our own blabbing that they kill dogs at 9 mos old if they're NOT killing and torturing those poor coon!

Maybe the answer to the pup over-population isn't putting a bullet in the head of every pup that doesn't hunt at 9 mos...

Maybe the answer is in reasonable breeding of desirable dogs and then owners who have the sense enough to let a pup be a pup before training. Not in owners who buy a young dog, keep it a few weeks and then move on to the next one because in those whole 3 wks of "training" they didn't perform! URGH!

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Posted by buckeyebuck on 11-19-2008 12:19 PM:

After reading some of these posts I dont know what to think. I have a pup just turned 11months old today that has been treeing his own coon since six months old. I kept track how many coon he treed me since he turned 10months old, 17 all by his self. He started that way and I hunt that way about 95% of the time. I only hunt him 3 nights a week 3, 4 drops a night. I thought I realy had somethin but now I dont know what to expect out of him. First pup I ever started.

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Posted by BRYAN J on 11-19-2008 12:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeO
i have, i even got witnesses lol lol! i know i shoulda took pics nobody's gonna believe that. lmao

i had a 9 month old bootick run a deer 4 or 5 miles one night!

You sure that wasn't a holstein that was running that deer 4 or 5 miles!

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Posted by BRYAN J on 11-19-2008 12:47 PM:

Pups need to learn at there own pace. Push to hard and I bet you'll be disappointed in the end results most of the time.

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Posted by on 11-19-2008 03:22 PM:

Read & understand your young dawg's & they'll tell ya when their ready.

My number one passion in this sport is startin pup's & since I'm kinda gimped up I've thought of starting a puppy kindergarten/day care gig for the public. I have several generation's of reference's!

Posted by mjflores on 11-19-2008 03:46 PM:

Russ, from what I've seen on the posts you seem to have a way with pups. How often do you have young started dogs for sale?

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Posted by perry co cooner on 11-19-2008 04:26 PM:

President

Folks we have another ANTI posing as a hunter with President. They are the easiest people in the world to spot if you pay attention to their posts.

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Posted by MillsEnglish on 11-19-2008 05:25 PM:

Well I will just go ahead and state that if you live in thin coon and hunt in thin coon you can count on waiting past 9 months old. If a dog is running loose I can see maybe but, in a kennel no way, not here. Ive seen some fine dogs not even do it on their own till 16 months old. By 9 months old I expect mine to know his name, come when called, load, lead and show interest in coon..one night a dog might not hunt a bit and the next time you take him he might take right off there is not a magic age for this and if there is then its definately not 9 months old. In my opinion the hardest learning curve you face with a pup is knowing why you take it out and turn it loose 3-4 nights a week. Once it knows why its gravy. Here sometimes a dog has to go 1/2 a mile just to find a coon or even further..you cant expect that out of a 9 month old alone...some are just naturals...but overall expectations shouldnt be much out of a 9 month old.

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