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Posted by on 11-18-2008 05:34 PM:

Great post Mr Lambert. You sound like an alright guy even if you do hunt them reddogs.....

P.S.....Congrats on the domination at the other KC's Ms. state hunt.

Posted by heckler on 11-18-2008 05:39 PM:

It would seem to me that a world hunt should be where there are plenty of coon. I know I wouldn't want to compete where the population is scarce. Down here in FL it is better some nights than others, and sometimes the walk to the tree is rough and long. I would like to see how the outcome would be if it was held in different states evn down here.

Posted by Clay Lautzenhiser on 11-18-2008 05:44 PM:

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Posted by Clay Lautzenhiser on 11-18-2008 05:45 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Didn't they have it in Tennessee 3 years ago? Did Y'all just start hunting or are your memories that short? Mr Smokey, did you hunt in it when it was 3 hrs from your house? Aren't they going to have it in the Mountains of East Tennessee this year? Todd K must be listening to you! Mr Lautzenhiser can you spell Winter Classic? Do you pay good money to hunt in it? I went there last year and hunted in Florida. Four good dogs and we did not see a coon.

Well gee golly there misser lambert i fink I tan swell wit. i has bin thare a time or too. yall huntid in norf florida not central florida. my point wuz xactly dat. thee same dog wood not win ifn the hunt wuz down hear. it takes a hole difrent dog hear.

ps i has huntin from new yerk to calafornea and from missedigan to florida.

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Posted by WLDCHINSANEJANE on 11-18-2008 05:50 PM:

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Is it going to be in East Tn this year Richard? If so, thats kinda of exciting, it doesn't matter though because I can't get out of the stupid zones.

Posted by LARRY TYNES on 11-18-2008 06:05 PM:

I for one would be happy for eny of you guys to have the hunt thats in west ky. every yr. get one of those 2 wk hunts for about 25 yrs. and you will be glad to get rid of. the land owners get tire of it, the deer hunter hate it, the game love to write those 233.00 trespasing ticket, to out of state guides. our season comes in a wk. later and the coon are run to death. this bunch don,t care if they tree a coon or not, just ask the one,s that won the ss . they didn,t turn down the money. lol

Posted by perry co cooner on 11-18-2008 06:16 PM:

Well I guess it's fact that North Georgia has the toughest hunting conditions in America and only the best of coondogs can make it in the south. LOL The hunting gets tough at some point during the year no matter where you hunt IMO. I know one thing for sure though, if I had a dog that was extremely good in North Georgia under those trying conditions there is nothing in this world that could keep me from going to the World Hunts and Big Money/truck hunts in the north and cleaning up. I'd be a richer man and famous rather than infamous in the coon hunting world.

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Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 06:47 PM:

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Originally posted by perry co cooner
Well I guess it's fact that North Georgia has the toughest hunting conditions in America and only the best of coondogs can make it in the south. LOL The hunting gets tough at some point during the year no matter where you hunt IMO. I know one thing for sure though, if I had a dog that was extremely good in North Georgia under those trying conditions there is nothing in this world that could keep me from going to the World Hunts and Big Money/truck hunts in the north and cleaning up. I'd be a richer man and famous rather than infamous in the coon hunting world.

i think your wrong about comeing up north & cleaning up.most dogs that come from the south are differnt here in northen indiana . please buy your best and come for a hunt. and thats the same with most indiana hounds they cant go south and clean house. most dogs half to ajust in differnt terrian.

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Posted by perry co cooner on 11-18-2008 06:50 PM:

I'm from Pennsylvania not the south but if a dog is great in very thin coon populations then I would think they would be dynamite in thick coon. I was in Northern Indiana hunting tyhis past weekend with Joe Newlin and it seemed very similiar to what I'm used to in Pennsylvania. I got to see some nice dog work from Joe's fine hounds and look forward to taking my own hounds out and hunting with him again.

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Posted by casey brown on 11-18-2008 07:09 PM:

Just from my experience I have seen a lot of dogs that come from other states, and they have a hard time the first time or two that they get hunted down here because we have alot different type of hunting. Im not saying that they aint as good they just are not used to it down here. Ive hunted in quite a few different places and from my experiece the better dogs come from where there is fewer coon. It takes a better dog to tree a coon where their isnt hardly any, I think that, that would be common sense. Just my opinion

Posted by MikeO on 11-18-2008 07:12 PM:

flora IL, would be an excellent spot.

personally i like seeing it held where there is a good coon population. not where you walk through the woods tripping over coons but you can still tree a few every cast and dogs can get split.

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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 11-18-2008 07:20 PM:

JAY even old blue can look bad. could i give you this big hunt. lol

PS. the coon denl is closed down.

Posted by Bill(Chew) on 11-18-2008 07:22 PM:

mjflores, northwest Georgia is hard due to so few coons. We have areas here in west NC that are the same, also east Tennessee, as well as other places in the US. I'm sure that you are right about where you live in the winter time and the coons are not moving.

Smokey's dog sounds like many good coon dogs that don't make in competition due to holes that only affect competition, not coon hunting. I know that many on here believe that if it is not a good competition dog that it's a cull. Believe it or not, there are many more pleasure hunters then competition hunters. Good coon dogs that take a minute or two to check a tree before locking down won't win many hunts today. When they do it's usually because the others messed up.

Some dogs look great in thin coon and are useless in thick coon. Some dogs look great in thick coon but are useless in thin coon. The real good ones look good most anywhere they get turned loose.

And no, I don't know Smokey. And yes, I also competition hunt as well as pleasure hunt.

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Posted by mjflores on 11-18-2008 07:26 PM:

Anyone who bashes coon off a feed bucket, has never hunted coon! A coon smells the same, runs the same, acts the same as a coon that's been feeding on a bucket, or a blueberry swamp, or a beech nut thicket, or a corn field, or a mulberry grove, etc. Half your "wild" coon you treed just got done eating out of somebody's cat food dish or bird feeder. Give me a freakin break. Talk about excuses. Maybe you're all just after vegan coon?

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Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 07:29 PM:

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Anyone who bashes coon off a feed bucket, has never hunted coon! A coon smells the same, runs the same, acts the same as a coon that's been feeding on a bucket, or a blueberry swamp, or a beech nut thicket, or a corn field, or a mulberry grove, etc. Half your "wild" coon you treed just got done eating out of somebody's cat food dish or bird feeder. Give me a freakin break. Talk about excuses. Maybe you're all just after vegan coon?

most of your hounds that are hunted off feed cant even tree a coon any where else. i have seen alot of dog. that was hunted on feeders. and most are bucket smart!!

Posted by Barry Brown on 11-18-2008 07:45 PM:

smokey7, I can tell you that michigan is not near as easy to hunt as you seem to think. Yes we have a lot of coons in some places but some are as thin as you have. This place can also be as ruff as anything you hunt. You come for a hunt some time and you will be happy to get back to north ga.

Posted by LARRY TYNES on 11-18-2008 08:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mjflores
Anyone who bashes coon off a feed bucket, has never hunted coon! A coon smells the same, runs the same, acts the same as a coon that's been feeding on a bucket, or a blueberry swamp, or a beech nut thicket, or a corn field, or a mulberry grove, etc. Half your "wild" coon you treed just got done eating out of somebody's cat food dish or bird feeder. Give me a freakin break. Talk about excuses. Maybe you're all just after vegan coon?

i agree 110% i guess some can only tree a coon that ain,t had enything to eat, that way they are to weak to run. do some really think that coon don,t eat enywere but feeders.

don,t guess enyone wants this hunt down here

Posted by cooney64659 on 11-18-2008 08:15 PM:

Re: Re: Re: coons

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Originally posted by Clay Lautzenhiser
When are actually going to rotate it? It is always in the midwest. If they want to rotate it fairly then bring it down here to the deep south, lets say Florida. I would pay good money to see some of those northern dogs do it down here in this enviroment!

I believe it wasnt to long ago it was in North Carolina

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Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 08:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
JAY even old blue can look bad. could i give you this big hunt. lol

PS. the coon denl is closed down.

LARRYN IT TOOK OLD BLUE DOWN THERE A FEW DAYS TO AJUST. BUT HE REALY LOOK LIKE A COON DOG AT THE WORLD. JUST GOT SOME BAD BREAKS

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 08:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
I for one would be happy for eny of you guys to have the hunt thats in west ky. every yr. get one of those 2 wk hunts for about 25 yrs. and you will be glad to get rid of. the land owners get tire of it, the deer hunter hate it, the game love to write those 233.00 trespasing ticket, to out of state guides. our season comes in a wk. later and the coon are run to death. this bunch don,t care if they tree a coon or not, just ask the one,s that won the ss . they didn,t turn down the money. lol

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Posted by bamadoghunter on 11-18-2008 08:32 PM:

I believe it would be best to have the hunt in South Alabama. There is not too many coons or not enough coons down here. It is just right. I believe it would be good to have it at the Tensaw-Delta down close to Mobile,Alabama.

Posted by Clay Lautzenhiser on 11-18-2008 08:58 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: coons

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Originally posted by cooney64659
I believe it wasnt to long ago it was in North Carolina

NOTICE I SAID "DEEP SOUTH". I lived in North Carolina for 8 years and spent many days and nights hunting there. In fact I qualified there in 08. IT DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO COMPARING TO CENTRAL FLORIDA HUNTING!
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Posted by LARRY TYNES on 11-18-2008 08:58 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
[B]i agree 110%

Jay i will change that to 55% i only hunt feeders with pups in the spring and season is out, i only hunt those coon that feed on corn fields, acorn trees, hack berrys and allthe rest during season.

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 09:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
[B]i agree 110%

Jay i will change that to 55% i only hunt feeders with pups in the spring and season is out, i only hunt those coon that feed on corn fields, acorn trees, hack berrys and allthe rest during season.

IM TALKING ABOUT ALL THE HOUNDS THAT JUST HUNT ON FEEDERS YEAR AROUND. YES WE HAVE CORN AND BEEN FEILDS BUT SOMETIME YOU CANT EVEN BUY A COON AROUND EITHER ONE. MOST PEOPLE THINK THE HUNTING IS EASY AT NORTHERN INDIANA COME DOWN OR UP AND WE WILL JUST SEE WHAT KIND OF HOUND YOU GOT THIS TIME OF YEAR!!!

Posted by Barry Brown on 11-18-2008 10:08 PM:

Maniac, I would like to see it up north also but silver lake can not put it on. They dont have the people to put a hunt on like that.

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