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Posted by nate m on 11-16-2008 03:01 PM:

mills im only 50 miles from the UP of michagin.ya its pretty flat in these parts but you get up by lake supirior the terane gets pretty rough. the revines are steddy and deap. and i get alot of my big hides out of them areas. because know one else hunts them. terane is to rough.

Posted by MillsEnglish on 11-16-2008 04:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
mills im only 50 miles from the UP of michagin.ya its pretty flat in these parts but you get up by lake supirior the terane gets pretty rough. the revines are steddy and deap. and i get alot of my big hides out of them areas. because know one else hunts them. terane is to rough.

Worst ordeal I ever got in was ice fishing in michigan. It was spitting snow and I nearly froze. Oh yeah and didnt catch nothing but a cold lol. I don't mind the mountains too bad I can stay in good shape and feel better "after" the hunt lol The total worst around here is when dogs take you where its been newly logged and you have to deal with the tree tops and walk straight up too. Its bad going in but its horrible leading a dog back out. Also in those area's the coon use those tree tops to hang dogs up on them treeing...a dog that dont check a tree good will fall on a tree top treed every time. I hunt an older dog she is a good all around dog not a powerhouse competition dog but straight as they come and 95% accurate around here. I hunt most always alone and i have a young dog im working but hasnt turned on much except for at the tree so far. He has only ran one track so far. He is just now getting hunted hard. I hunted a place called golden creek not too long ago here...good lookin country and i knew there were all kinds of coon in there cause i used to live up in there. Dog treed on top of the mountain it took us 2 hours to climb that mountain and coyotes were barking all around the dogs even barked near us on the way to the dog but never was spotted.We got to the top and shined the coon and well when we went to leave we decided to go what looked like an easier way off till we got way down the mountain then it got real bad there were places we had to sit down like a slide and slide down it. Then we got to the bottom and were in a huge swamp had to wade it cause there was no climbing back up the way we came down. Ive never been so miserable my boots got wet inside and we were still a mile from the truck. lol but ya know when its all over you really do feel like you got a good workout and looked at coon and just feel good to be outta there lol

Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-16-2008 04:13 PM:

For those of you that think that all of those den trees are slick.....or the dogs run the track backwards...

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Posted by nate m on 11-16-2008 04:17 PM:

mills that just dont sound like my style of hunting.I would rather through my snow shoes on and go get deep. the only cold weather hunting that we realy do is cat and coyote. but it sure is fun. once you hunt a couple times inthis cold weather your body adapts to it. of course I hate heat sow theres no way id make it down south.

Posted by nate m on 11-16-2008 04:18 PM:

nice pick.

Posted by josh on 11-16-2008 06:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge
For those of you that think that all of those den trees are slick.....or the dogs run the track backwards...

We all know coon can live in trees.

IMO a dog that (consistantly) trees those den trees are most likely treeing on a tree for no other reason than it is oozing with coon piss and chit.

Posted by MikeO on 11-16-2008 07:42 PM:

i think its got a lot to do with the dog your hunting some dogs wont mess with old cold tracks.

I've hunted with guys around here that make twice the den trees i make. good or bad some dogs go till they find a track that satisfies them. I've hunted dogs that just made one or two trees a night those dogs are more likely to make den trees imo.

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Posted by mucket on 11-16-2008 08:30 PM:

goodn's tree'em on the outside dont let anyone tell you any different ,i can prove it!!!

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Posted by MillsEnglish on 11-16-2008 08:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mucket
goodn's tree'em on the outside dont let anyone tell you any different ,i can prove it!!!

Bring your best and lets go hunting :P I want to see proof here.

Posted by mucket on 11-16-2008 09:16 PM:

Where and when ,just so happens i got some vacation time [first two weeks dec.]so i just need to know where???

we took out ol' skeeter and a pup and treed 8 no slicks no dens. oh yeah caught 1 in the creek and 1 in a corn stubble field and bayed till i got there

hope every one had fun thats the important thing.
Here's a pic of ol' skeeter and a few of his coons. (10)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/596/75983470gt9.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

4 singles, a double, 2 on the ground, went 3 mile treed 3 coons, and home by 4...I was done!!

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Posted by mucket on 11-16-2008 10:00 PM:

Wow! ijust seen you was from bville just so happens i will be in harlan soon!i was raised in wildcat holler up on cloverfork,brookside ky 40801

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Posted by MillsEnglish on 11-16-2008 11:24 PM:

Cool well your welcome to come hunt while your in harlan. Nice pics. as far as the dens there are lots of them here I tree a whole lot on the outside but occasionally their on the inside.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-16-2008 11:31 PM:

I almost never go to a den tree. Very, very rare. I can't speak for other parts of the country, but down here in North Georgia. A dog that consistently trees den trees is a very poor track dog.

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Posted by mucket on 11-16-2008 11:58 PM:

Thats what i been talk'n bout smokey.
and i will come hunt with you or/and you can come up to brookside wer can hunt up in wildcat at preacher bud osborne's
place.

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Posted by jackbob42 on 11-17-2008 01:03 AM:

Re: den trees

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
....... is it possible that there a lot of hounds taking tracks backwards.

Alot more often than people want to admit ! LOL

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Posted by MillsEnglish on 11-17-2008 01:25 AM:

Cool well your welcome to come hunt while your in harlan. Nice pics. as far as the dens there are lots of them here I tree a whole lot on the outside but occasionally their on the inside.

Posted by nate m on 12-15-2008 02:41 PM:

three dens last night but seen all three.

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Posted by DEMODOG1 on 12-15-2008 02:55 PM:

looks like a litter of 8 week old kits

quote:
Originally posted by mucket
Where and when ,just so happens i got some vacation time [first two weeks dec.]so i just need to know where???

we took out ol' skeeter and a pup and treed 8 no slicks no dens. oh yeah caught 1 in the creek and 1 in a corn stubble field and bayed till i got there

hope every one had fun thats the important thing.
Here's a pic of ol' skeeter and a few of his coons. (10)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/596/75983470gt9.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

4 singles, a double, 2 on the ground, went 3 mile treed 3 coons, and home by 4...I was done!!

Posted by DEMODOG1 on 12-15-2008 03:10 PM:

this here coon was in a den im guessing? i petted her up for it pretty good!! than she went and treed 2 more dens?? i could just happan to see threw em both??Ghost coon???HMMMMM!!! SLAP!GET LOST!!! Circle or minus?????????????

Posted by elvis on 12-15-2008 03:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
coon season opened a month ago. and they have ben dened up for almost two weeks know.

nate.
so why do you think a dog is wrong if he trees on den trees?

Posted by smokey7 on 12-15-2008 03:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
nate.
so why do you think a dog is wrong if he trees on den trees?

Elvis so much has to do with what part of the country your in. Up there where you guys are at where coons spend so much time in dens during the cold months I don't think it's a bad thing to tree lots of den trees. But down here it's a different story. Most of the misunderstandings between me and you and Oak Ridge and Jim is simply because of the fact that we hunt in two totally different worlds in regards to coon population, coon habits, Terrain, and climate.

Posted by elvis on 12-15-2008 04:07 PM:

Re: den trees

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
I hear all this talk about den trees. I know there has to be plenty of den trees in these woods i hunt. but the only den trees i have seen this year. are when im hunting with just a sertain cupple dogs other dogs i dont hardly ever see den trees. is it possible that there a lot of hounds taking tracks backwards. or is it more of an excuse for the tree being empty. i ask this question becuse it allways seems to be the same dogs. hitting these den trees.

im just curious why makeing a lot of den trees would lead you to believe they were slick, when a couple posts later you say your coon have been denned up for 2 weeks.

Posted by nate m on 12-15-2008 04:10 PM:

ELVIS when its cold like it is now.I under stand den trees with out a dought. you will hit dens. when I posted this it was late sep maybe early oct. I dont hit many dens with my dogs at that time of year. when I would go with a couple different hounds we would hit dens. and I mean alot 3 out of 4 on average. as my dog progressed and quit honnering these older dogs. she started taking the track on her own. and we would see the coon. not a den. or supposedly a den. lot of them so called den trees a squirel coudn't fit through the hole they found.

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 12-15-2008 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
Elvis so much has to do with what part of the country your in. Up there where you guys are at where coons spend so much time in dens during the cold months I don't think it's a bad thing to tree lots of den trees. But down here it's a different story. Most of the misunderstandings between me and you and Oak Ridge and Jim is simply because of the fact that we hunt in two totally different worlds in regards to coon population, coon habits, Terrain, and climate.

Hey Sheep,

The difference between you and elvis, and JiM, and I is that we have all been to "your country" and managed to tree coon....

You on the other hand, draw conclusions about what it's like up here.....

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Posted by elvis on 12-15-2008 06:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
ELVIS when its cold like it is now.I under stand den trees with out a dought. you will hit dens. when I posted this it was late sep maybe early oct. I dont hit many dens with my dogs at that time of year. when I would go with a couple different hounds we would hit dens. and I mean alot 3 out of 4 on average. as my dog progressed and quit honnering these older dogs. she started taking the track on her own. and we would see the coon. not a den. or supposedly a den. lot of them so called den trees a squirel coudn't fit through the hole they found.

OK, I understand what your saying now. thanks

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