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Posted by coonsmen on 10-26-2008 11:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeO
i ain't never hunted up there but i couldn't imagine 200 hunters hunting in one area killing 10 coons a nite a piece doesn't hurt the population.

shoot with that kinda coon population my chow and rat terrier could tree coons.

mike where are you going to find 200 coon hunters in a particular area? heck i doubt there are much more than 1000 in all of illinois,
and some of them only go out one day a week.

i dont agree with shiners but if the law states they can hunt that way than who am i to judge. same thing goes for trappers. just as they have no right looking badly apon us.. this fude has been going on for over a decade and yet we still have plenty of coon to go around.

here this is directly out of the dnr website its something to think about
"Distribution & Abundance
Raccoons are abundant and found throughout Illinois. Their numbers have increased dramatically since the early 1900s, and scientists believe there are more raccoons in Illinois today than when the first European settlers arrived here. Populations of 9 to 45 raccoons per square mile are common in Illinois. Fall population estimates as high as 98 to 101 raccoons per square mile have been recorded for parts of Cook, Kane and McHenry counties"

now illinois has a 57918 sq mi radious. we will keep the populations est Low and say 25 coons per sq mile.

that means there are 1,447,950 give or take a couple hundred thousand or so.

that means if there were 1000 coon hunters in illinois they could take 1000 coons a years and still have plenty around.

now how many coon hunters can take that many coon
from nov 5 to till feb 10
even if you went every night and killed 10 coons each night you would only come up with 900.

like i said i have other things to worry about than not having coon around. lol

i would be interested in coon pupulations from places like sc and va that may not have as many coon.

Posted by MikeO on 10-27-2008 12:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by coonsmen
mike where are you going to find 200 coon hunters in a particular area? heck i doubt there are much more than 1000 in all of illinois,
and some of them only go out one day a week.

i dont agree with shiners but if the law states they can hunt that way than who am i to judge. same thing goes for trappers. just as they have no right looking badly apon us.. this fude has been going on for over a decade and yet we still have plenty of coon to go around.

here this is directly out of the dnr website its something to think about
"Distribution & Abundance
Raccoons are abundant and found throughout Illinois. Their numbers have increased dramatically since the early 1900s, and scientists believe there are more raccoons in Illinois today than when the first European settlers arrived here. Populations of 9 to 45 raccoons per square mile are common in Illinois. Fall population estimates as high as 98 to 101 raccoons per square mile have been recorded for parts of Cook, Kane and McHenry counties"

now illinois has a 57918 sq mi radious. we will keep the populations est Low and say 25 coons per sq mile.

that means there are 1,447,950 give or take a couple hundred thousand or so.

that means if there were 1000 coon hunters in illinois they could take 1000 coons a years and still have plenty around.

now how many coon hunters can take that many coon
from nov 5 to till feb 10
even if you went every night and killed 10 coons each night you would only come up with 900.

like i said i have other things to worry about than not having coon around. lol

i would be interested in coon pupulations from places like sc and va that may not have as many coon.

that's a bs study in so IL we don't have that kinda population. i been hunting here since i was 12 if you think all the coon hunters in so IL can harvest 10 a nite and still have plenty of coon your slick treed!

maybe you got that kinda population out there on the river so slaughter your coons idgara. i don't consider anything north of I64 so IL....well maybe up to flora but that's a stretch!

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Posted by fatblue-2 on 10-27-2008 12:24 AM:

MIKE MAPQUEST JACKSON MI I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU BRING A DOG AND HUNTING PARTNER UP FOR 2 NIGHT I HAVE A LARGE HOUSE AND A WIFE THAT CAN FIX A GOOD MEAL COME UP STAY AND TAKE A HUNT I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT TIME TRY TO SHOW YOU SOME GOOD HUNTING BUT WILL GARANTEE GOOD FOOD AND A TON OF LAUGHFS

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Posted by MikeO on 10-27-2008 12:34 AM:

fat blue i appreciate the offer and i would love to hunt up there but i just cant afford to right now. maybe in the future sometime i hope.

Posted by coonsmen on 10-27-2008 01:27 AM:

mike you just need a dog that can tree coons.. you would see more..haha j/k

can you imagin 100 coons per square mile like up by chicago. the dogs wouldnt know where to start..lol

you are not too far from me. come on up we will have a good time treeing them bandits.

Posted by fatblue-2 on 10-27-2008 01:43 AM:

MIKE THE OFFER IS OPEN ANYTIME IF I WERE RICH I WOULD BRING YA UP HERE

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Posted by JefferyAntes on 10-27-2008 01:55 AM:

I hunt from Fowler to Saranac to Sheridan , Stanton and all the way up to Harrison I have traveled a lot of woods some private and some state land do have a guess on how many other people I have seen out hunting its a big fat Zero I hunt state land that is like hunting private land that has never been coon hunted before do you know why because you have to get off your duff and go find them its just like deer hunting around here these days everybody and there brother has some dumb excuse why they can't find a deer to hunt or a woods full of game do some research get out of your truck and take your but for a walk look for sign food sources if you have food cover and water you will have game to hunt. Its work its hard to do and sometimes it just plain s---s wearing out a pair of boats but trust me its worth it, I 've been told no a lot of times but it only takes one yes to have a hot spot.And I sit here and tell you that i will share and I don't matter because tomorrow I still be looking for another spot to turn the Red dog loose so he can do his thing, and it is his thing because he has already learned that when he tips that head back and long load bawl roles out I'll be there it just my take me time but i will always will be there.

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Posted by MikeO on 10-27-2008 02:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by coonsmen
mike you just need a dog that can tree coons.. you would see more..haha j/k

can you imagin 100 coons per square mile like up by chicago. the dogs wouldnt know where to start..lol

yeah i know dogs would be tripping over coons. lol

you are not too far from me. come on up we will have a good time treeing them bandits.

that sounds good if i ever get the chance. i was in Alton IL last friday but i was working.

Posted by coonsmen on 10-27-2008 02:58 AM:

lol i ws just across the river in st louis last weekend getting attacked by police and schutzhund dog. you cant beat it.
you were only about 40 minutes from my hunting spots. so the next time your there let me know!!

Posted by ramblin radar on 10-27-2008 03:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Predictions in FFG have always been misleading, the high prices reflect the big coon from the upper Mississippi river valley...Smaller coon always bring far less.

No, and they wont be for another month, If you wait till they are prime around here you will be able to carry your yearly take to the buyer in one hand.

Our Coons are fully Prime where we are. Here's a couple of pics, One fromt he first nite of kill season, and another from a few days later.

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Posted by josh on 10-27-2008 01:02 PM:

Those are nice coon, If it makes you feel good to believe they are fully prime, Im not going to ruin it for you.

Posted by coonsmen on 10-27-2008 01:46 PM:

those things look huge!!!

Posted by bandithunter on 10-27-2008 02:56 PM:

Josh is right, I shot a real hogger on the 25th and the hide wasn't that good. Anybody who shot 125 coon this early was just wastin ammo. They'll be there is a few weeks, be patient.

Posted by T.Beyer on 10-27-2008 03:57 PM:

I am going to skin the 9 I got the other night. I'll let you know what I find, last week Curtis and I shot one real nice one, wasn't blue at all. That was the first one we had seen that was ready.

I wish I would have skinned these in the woods

By the way, that dog is 28 pounds. I don't have a scale, but I bet a lot of those coon are close to the same weight.

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Posted by Gary E Redfern on 10-27-2008 04:41 PM:

my dogs wouldn't know how to act in that many coon. would like to get into some big ones like that and just see how she would act, may look plum stuppid in thick coon like that.

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Posted by Family on 10-27-2008 04:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by coonsmen
last year prices were higher than normal and we never had all them shiners every one is worried about. there will be plenty for everyone. i could kill 10 a night and not put a dent in the populationshere. as long as no one screws with my hounds while im out there i dont care. i have too many other things to worry about than other hunters having fun at night like i im.

Finally..Amen to that.

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Posted by nmihunter on 11-20-2008 09:54 PM:

had a farmer up here kill thirty in less than a week by putting fly poison in a pie tin in the middle of his corn field, he said half died with their heads in the dish. so up here shiners and over shooting coons are the last thing to worry about.

Posted by hellbilly on 11-21-2008 05:45 AM:

Hey fatblue do you sell in the round or skinned?

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Posted by Smokey bear on 11-21-2008 08:20 AM:

did

the 28 pound dog tree them coon.i guess no

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Posted by RH. on 12-07-2008 05:32 PM:

I just sold 26 hides on friday and here is what i got.

2-$20
4-$15
10-$10
8-$5
2-$1

comes out to $10 average so i thought that was doing pretty good compared to some of the prices i have heard from others.

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Posted by josh on 12-07-2008 05:37 PM:

The good news is here in MN the coon are now fully prime..

The bad news is our daytime highs are single digits and below zero at night with a few inches of snow to den the coon up...

Posted by BRYAN J on 12-08-2008 01:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nmihunter
had a farmer up here kill thirty in less than a week by putting fly poison in a pie tin in the middle of his corn field, he said half died with their heads in the dish. so up here shiners and over shooting coons are the last thing to worry about.

Marlin is what is sold here. Kills instantly! Needs to be banned.

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Posted by coonsmen on 12-08-2008 04:05 AM:

agreed i know alot of people using it and beer for coons and it and meat for yotes.

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