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Originally posted by m4rcut
so pretty much if you know your dog isn't the best dog at that hunt you shouldn't hunt???? no the handler makes up half of the work

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k so every kid that has a dog that isnt the best shouldn't go to a hunt cause the best dog should always win. . . . . some people are pretty stupid

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Originally posted by m4rcut
k so every kid that has a dog that isnt the best shouldn't go to a hunt cause the best dog should always win. . . . . some people are pretty stupid

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Home of these Hamilton county treeing walkers.
GRCH GRNITECH 'PR' OWEN'S STYLISH NOCTURNAL SHAKER.
And the pup 'pr' Owen's Rock River Ace...

Mike Owen owner/handler. hunting in style (WALKER STYLE)

The good handlers with top dogs I give a lot of credit to with the time and effort, travel and preparation it takes to win. It,s the slick handler or cheater who pitches his dog in all night long, steals your tree, won't shine your tree or just plain ole won't see your coon unless somebody else finds it. I'm not a big time campaigner but I see and here this stuff all the time. There are a lot of dogs out there that finish out a lot quicker than they should. Most of the time the slick handler is handling a top dog because he hates to lose and doesn't care how he wins. I don't mean to ruffle anybodys feathers because there are a lot of honest handlers with dog power that do a lot of winning. In fact more than I will ever do. CONGRATS TO THEM!!!

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Originally posted by mjgrigas
The good handlers with top dogs I give a lot of credit to with the time and effort, travel and preparation it takes to win. It,s the slick handler or cheater who pitches his dog in all night long, steals your tree, won't shine your tree or just plain ole won't see your coon unless somebody else finds it. I'm not a big time campaigner but I see and here this stuff all the time. There are a lot of dogs out there that finish out a lot quicker than they should. Most of the time the slick handler is handling a top dog because he hates to lose and doesn't care how he wins. I don't mean to ruffle anybodys feathers because there are a lot of honest handlers with dog power that do a lot of winning. In fact more than I will ever do. CONGRATS TO THEM!!!

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Home of these Hamilton county treeing walkers.
GRCH GRNITECH 'PR' OWEN'S STYLISH NOCTURNAL SHAKER.
And the pup 'pr' Owen's Rock River Ace...

Mike Owen owner/handler. hunting in style (WALKER STYLE)

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Originally posted by m4rcut
so pretty much if you know your dog isn't the best dog at that hunt you shouldn't hunt???? no the handler makes up half of the work

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if you don't breed for titles thats good because MOST OF THE TITLED DOGS aint the best in the woods. . . . . . . . but they and their handlers work good together. . . . . . . before you breed go hunting with the dog ALONE that tells you what kind of dog it is

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'09 Winter Classic overall hunt winner
'08 JR Superstakes Reserve Ch

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Originally posted by m4rcut
if you don't breed for titles thats good because MOST OF THE TITLED DOGS aint the best in the woods. . . . . . . . but they and their handlers work good together. . . . . . . before you breed go hunting with the dog ALONE that tells you what kind of dog it is

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Originally posted by MikeO
yep just take your whoopin and move on.

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Yes your wright there are dogs out there that nver been in a hunt that are something nice.These dogs with titles are not saying there the best just that they can tree a coon and are tring to better the breed.I say this because with a title you are saying your dog will tree a coon.With out the handler who is to say whos the best someone will have to tree the dog,strike the dog and see the coon.

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My comments weren't ment to dampen the winning hound or handler because if I was ever to breed my female I would look for a winning hound that was a reproducer. Unless a registered dog had proven himself a reproducer and had a name to sell the puppies. The one thing a big winning hound means to me is stayput/splittree dog. That is if he did his winning honestly. Those with bad reputations or don't reproduce stay away from.

When it comes to what nitehunt titles prove, I'll say for sure they prove a couple things. It proves the dog will get treed and will stay treed. Can't be sure of anything else but those two things you can count on with a titled dog.

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In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
-- Mark Twain