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Originally posted by mjflores
Alright, I do see the point about a hunt. I like Sam's idea, go to a cast win system. It seems that under the current system, it's immediately unfair depending on what part of the country you live it. Some places will have several casts headed to the woods...around here it's hard enough to come up with 4 dogs to fill a cast. Sometime 1 or 2 dogs show up for a hunt.
Has anyone on here ever seen a dog that wouldn't hunt unless they saw a feed bucket? I cant believe anyone would find a dog that sorry.
Around here, you can have a full feed bucket but you wont get a coon coming to it when the blueberries are ripe..or later when the beechnuts and acorns are prime.
So anyway, the point to this thread wasn't really are buckets to be used in hunts...just should buckets be used period...why or why not?
in mho, I've hunted off of feeder buckets in the winter to get a quicker drop time. hide hunting. but stop on any creek with a corn field on the way to the bucket spot and its just as fast or faster.
hunting in competion hunts on feeder buckets.........you dont have hunting coon dogs....working coon dogs.any cur dog half breed can learn about the buckets and go to that spot....ITS JUST NOT REAL HUNTING>>> JMO.
dropping dogs and having them work out a bad or old track .....and turning it into a smokin hot track 300-500 yards away.....and blowin the top off of the tree at the end of it.....Thats a know when to be quite know when to move it coon dog.....If ya dont own one ya dont hunt enough.....its in there blood ....
STOP BEIN LAZY GUYS!!
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[i]Originally posted by smokey7 [/B]
1st off ITS NOT illegal to use them in GA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Second,When I go to a hunt.I hope like heck I draw hot feeders..So what if the guide hunts em every night.There should be more than one coon around and my potlicker should get one alone..3rd,I cant tell you how long its been since I was at a hunt where EVERYBODY was not on feeders..The field is PRETTY DANG LEVEL in north GA..I won on some feeders last night and I was not the guide!!!!!!!!!!Just because you hunt feeders some dont mean your dog want go as far as it takes to tree one!!!!!!!!!!
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quote:.............dang..what clubs are you huntin...........I guide at Bowman, Comer, Nicholson, Homer, Watkinsville, and Farmington..........and I don't have buckets.........have one spot that has 2..usually don't go there...........my deer trail camera had 13 coons in the picture at once..........Benji could tree one there............lolol.............ps-we have a hunt in Nicholson on August 23.....come on down............top 4 high cast winners will hunt off for a brand new dog box.................we plan on doing this at all our hunts............take care............John
Originally posted by GA DAWG
1st off ITS NOT illegal to use them in GA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Second,When I go to a hunt.I hope like heck I draw hot feeders..So what if the guide hunts em every night.There should be more than one coon around and my potlicker should get one alone..3rd,I cant tell you how long its been since I was at a hunt where EVERYBODY was not on feeders..The field is PRETTY DANG LEVEL in north GA..I won on some feeders last night and I was not the guide!!!!!!!!!!Just because you hunt feeders some dont mean your dog want go as far as it takes to tree one!!!!!!!!!!
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Well see John..Your blessed with a good coon population and you know your an exception here lol...Plus I call everything east and south of me south ga lol........What were 13 coons doing in one picture? Had to be eating something.
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quote:....well of course they were..............the camera was on one of them buckets.................lololol........................take care, bud...........hope to see ya at a hunt............John
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Well see John..Your blessed with a good coon population and you know your an exception here lol...Plus I call everything east and south of me south ga lol........What were 13 coons doing in one picture? Had to be eating something.
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Gezz I just Hope you Don't Hunt with a Light Over 6 Volts in GA. !!!
Now this law should be changed
LEGAL HOURS for hunting are 30 minutes
before sunrise until 30 minutes after sunset,
except that alligators, raccoons, opossums,
foxes, coyotes, bobcats and feral hogs may
be hunted at night. However, only battery
powered lights not exceeding 6 volts (12 volts
for alligators) or fuel type lanterns may be
carried by hunters for locating these animals.
Legal hours for migratory bird hunting confor
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Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
Gezz I just Hope you Don't Hunt with a Light Over 6 Volts in GA. !!!
Now this law should be changed
LEGAL HOURS for hunting are 30 minutes
before sunrise until 30 minutes after sunset,
except that alligators, raccoons, opossums,
foxes, coyotes, bobcats and feral hogs may
be hunted at night. However, only battery
powered lights not exceeding 6 volts (12 volts
for alligators) or fuel type lanterns may be
carried by hunters for locating these animals.
Legal hours for migratory bird hunting confor
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Grand Nite Champion Turpins Stylish Rube.
Sire of World Champion "Insane Jane"
Also another--Hamptons Stylish Jewel Placing 9th in The UKC World Hunt Last Year. She Took Them to 14th Place This Year !!!
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh85/HuntingFamily/100_1125.jpg
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I guess I'm still not seeing the arguement when people are against feed buckets, although I do in a Nite Hunt I suppose. Still, if I hunt a dog off buckets...most of the time they dont go toward the bucket, I cut em lose on the trail in..and then take a left or right and start hunting. When I take em to a place with ne feed bucket, like a corn field or blueberry bog, they hunt the same.
Training wheels? yeah right. John V is that you? lol
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quote:Smokey how many VOLTS is your light?? HUH????? Anybody??
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
Gezz I just Hope you Don't Hunt with a Light Over 6 Volts in GA. !!!
Now this law should be changed
LEGAL HOURS for hunting are 30 minutes
before sunrise until 30 minutes after sunset,
except that alligators, raccoons, opossums,
foxes, coyotes, bobcats and feral hogs may
be hunted at night. However, only battery
powered lights not exceeding 6 volts (12 volts
for alligators) or fuel type lanterns may be
carried by hunters for locating these animals.
Legal hours for migratory bird hunting confor
quote:AMEN !!!!!! FOR CRING OUT LOUD!!
Originally posted by Family
in mho, I've hunted off of feeder buckets in the winter to get a quicker drop time. hide hunting. but stop on any creek with a corn field on the way to the bucket spot and its just as fast or faster.
hunting in competion hunts on feeder buckets.........you dont have hunting coon dogs....working coon dogs.any cur dog half breed can learn about the buckets and go to that spot....ITS JUST NOT REAL HUNTING>>> JMO.
dropping dogs and having them work out a bad or old track .....and turning it into a smokin hot track 300-500 yards away.....and blowin the top off of the tree at the end of it.....Thats a know when to be quite know when to move it coon dog.....If ya dont own one ya dont hunt enough.....its in there blood ....
STOP BEIN LAZY GUYS!!
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One thing I'd never do is SHOOT a coon off a feeder bucket..Thats what all the WMA's in the state are for..
Here is the deal with the feeders, if you draw out with a guide or guides friend and go there most of the time their dogs will go stright to the feeders to get a track going because they are conditioned that way.,after the first tree every thing is even JMO
I have a small woods i train in , no feeders but managed for bunnies and coon and deer, after about 3 nights with the same dog if he has any brains it will beeline to this small ditch where i can strike a coon ANY night of the year. no matter from which direction i cast from.JMO
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Originally posted by GA DAWG
Smokey how many VOLTS is your light?? HUH????? Anybody??
Re: Wild coon??
quote:Because some coonhunters are to cheap to put out buckets, so they frown on people that do.
Originally posted by mjflores
Why do coonhunters look down on the act of running off buckets, when alot of bear hunters run off bait piles? What's the difference? I've truned loose off buckets and had the dogs tree 3/4 mile ( GPS verified) from where I turned them loose. If that aint working a track I dont know what is. Seriously, I dont see anything wrong with it. A bucket doesn't mean you'll tree a coon within 30 feet.
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Originally posted by GA DAWG
1st off ITS NOT illegal to use them in GA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Second,When I go to a hunt.I hope like heck I draw hot feeders..So what if the guide hunts em every night.There should be more than one coon around and my potlicker should get one alone..3rd,I cant tell you how long its been since I was at a hunt where EVERYBODY was not on feeders..The field is PRETTY DANG LEVEL in north GA..I won on some feeders last night and I was not the guide!!!!!!!!!!Just because you hunt feeders some dont mean your dog want go as far as it takes to tree one!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Wild coon??
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Originally posted by Chiggers
Because some coonhunters are to cheap to put out buckets, so they frown on people that do.
Smokey I knew you were a stickler for the rules lol...I didnt figure anybody hunted with a six volt anymore!! Mine ainT.... I also dont have any coon feeders out..All mine are DEER FEEDERS!!!!! I cant help it if the coon eat it....I have a sign up that says DEER ONLY...
quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
In georgia its illegal alltogether. Anytime.
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quote:Dont worry Smokey will LOL!!!!!!!!!! All I know is it says nothing what so ever about it in the regs..If it was wrong.It would be there..They are sure gonna have a hard time doing anything to ya if you dont have a gun..I'm supplemental feeding the deer .
Originally posted by Sheriff Andy
i think in georgia it is only illegal to harvest game over bait. someone correct me if this is wrong.
I'm not against the use of buckets and have used plenty in the past. Here's what I think, for what it's worth...
- Buckets are great for starting a pup or a young dog by itself.
- Depending on the type of dog you are hunting they can be good or bad. If you have a dog that "has too much tree" you'll most likely tree more bucket then you do coon because they tree on the first hint of scent.
- They come in real handy if your in an area where your coon population is low and hunting areas are slim. (We all don't live in areas where coonfield run for miles)
I was in a hunt last month that I traveled quite a distance to go to. I withdrew my dog in 25 minutes because the quide was dumping us 15 yards from buckets and it was just a big mess. Dogs were getting hooked on the first tree they came to. I stayed with the cast for the remainder of the hunt and they made 5 trees, all of them were empty.
Personally with the dog that I am currently hunting I prefer to freecast him and have him run a "wild" track and tree it at the end.
Not to brag on my dog but I entered him in 6 NTCH cast and won 5 of them. The 5 hunts that he won no buckets were used. Again, I'd say it depend on the style of dog your hunting whether you agree or disagree with using them. JMO, wd
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Originally posted by GA DAWG
Dont worry Smokey will LOL!!!!!!!!!! All I know is it says nothing what so ever about it in the regs..If it was wrong.It would be there..They are sure gonna have a hard time doing anything to ya if you dont have a gun..I'm supplemental feeding the deer .
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I miss Mayberry,
where everythings in black and white.
and tan.
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Originally posted by dogfaceNH
I'm not against the use of buckets and have used plenty in the past. Here's what I think, for what it's worth...
- Buckets are great for starting a pup or a young dog by itself.
- Depending on the type of dog you are hunting they can be good or bad. If you have a dog that "has too much tree" you'll most likely tree more bucket then you do coon because they tree on the first hint of scent.
- They come in real handy if your in an area where your coon population is low and hunting areas are slim. (We all don't live in areas where coonfield run for miles)
I was in a hunt last month that I traveled quite a distance to go to. I withdrew my dog in 25 minutes because the quide was dumping us 15 yards from buckets and it was just a big mess. Dogs were getting hooked on the first tree they came to. I stayed with the cast for the remainder of the hunt and they made 5 trees, all of them were empty.
Personally with the dog that I am currently hunting I prefer to freecast him and have him run a "wild" track and tree it at the end.
Not to brag on my dog but I entered him in 6 NTCH cast and won 5 of them. The 5 hunts that he won no buckets were used. Again, I'd say it depend on the style of dog your hunting whether you agree or disagree with using them. JMO, wd
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quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Smokey I knew you were a stickler for the rules lol...I didnt figure anybody hunted with a six volt anymore!! Mine ainT.... I also dont have any coon feeders out..All mine are DEER FEEDERS!!!!! I cant help it if the coon eat it....I have a sign up that says DEER ONLY...
you ain't right o boy LOL LOL
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