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Posted by on 06-27-2008 03:37 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery

Black and Tans, would usually run any trash they came across, and if you found one that could tree a Coon, it would cost you a fortune, and you still have to worry if you see a Deer, in the spot your turning loose, Blueticks were usually mean and backtracked, not to mention Boot and Bawl for ever.
Redbones, well at least here in Texas, they just love Armidillos and not much else, English would trail for miles and miles without even treeing, and to be honest Ive never seen a Plott tree in my life. Im just gonna stick with Walkers.

Clearly you need to get out more to be makin generalized statement's like that!! No blindness in your comment's now is there?

Posted by bandithunter on 06-27-2008 03:52 PM:

This one is too easy. Why Walkers? That's what I say to my son when we're on our way home from a hunt................ right after he got spanked by my blues again.

Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-27-2008 06:18 PM:

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Originally posted by Two toes
Clearly you need to get out more to be makin generalized statement's like that!! No blindness in your comment's now is there?

I was just talking about my own experiences, with hounds other than Walkers, that I have personally owned.
When I switched to Walkers, it made all the difference in the world.
The Treeing Walker, is my choice, and Im going to stick with it.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-27-2008 06:26 PM:

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Originally posted by LARRY TYNES
i think theFELLOW from E.T. needs to hire a trainer, don,t think i would want to pay someone thats had all that truble training dogs. lol take a joke it,s fun.

Its funny, the Fellow from E.T. didnt have all that trouble when he switched over to Walkers.
If it needs a Trainer I dont want it, I prefer natural ability.LOL

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Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 07:20 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
Its funny, the Fellow from E.T. didnt have all that trouble when he switched over to Walkers.
If it needs a Trainer I dont want it, I prefer natural ability.LOL

i havent seen a dog yet that doesnt need train. they all do in some way .

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Posted by MikeO on 06-27-2008 07:30 PM:

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agree for most part...... breeders have focused on breeding and improving the competition walker, which is not always the best coondog.... yes the great ones shine through, but there a whole lot more culls.... i've hunted everything but redbones, I have found that for competition the walkers are hands down, if u have the money & want to win the big hunt..... if u just want to compete & win ur fair share of the regular hunts, then go with what ever breed u enjoy.... i prefer to hide hunt w/ the bue dogs, although I have seen some dang accurate english dogs as well as black dogs..... JMO

i agree if i was a hide hunter or just a pleasure hunter i would have me a blue and a red dog....and a couple real good trashbreaking collars.

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Posted by bandithunter on 06-27-2008 07:44 PM:

Well MikeO, you're right about one thing. I keep score with a rifle and I can't see a walker making it through the kill season alive hunting for me. When my dog trees I rack the slide.

Posted by dualthumper1yr on 06-27-2008 07:49 PM:

everyone that hunts walkers just likes to go to trees and this time of the year its hard to prove what he is doing. thats why i hunt blues and black and tans because to me they are the most honest dogs and my brother hunts walkers and we may go to 5 trees a night and the only time we see a coon is at my dogs tree.

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Posted by Family on 06-27-2008 08:02 PM:

tell your brother to cull those walkers. cuz mine dont miss. I got a friend who says he sees more coons with his bright light ...WHAT...he hunts bluetick...The only thing I've everseen on my own is a deer running out of the woods and I walk in and there is a possum sitting on a branch lookin at me scared me half to death...I dont need to look in trees when Im following my dog cuz the coons ahead of em...of course I hunted the two I have before I bought em and the other ones ended up buzzard food bought on a mans word...Guess its all about the person what they like... That color ya like...mine everybody thinks is a big beagle...and coon hides on the smokehouse wall.

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Posted by trainman on 06-27-2008 08:31 PM:

i always herd that if u find a real good red dog that u have somehing worth more that its weight and gold but i dont like taken a chance i perfer going with what i know will tree me a coon like to hunt in competions hunts but dont never do to good but i know i can go turn out when im needing food and my dog will get one treed thats y i will stick with the treeing walker not downing anyones dog cause there r a bunch of good dogs out there black dogs and all the others but i prefer the walker dogs

Posted by MikeO on 06-27-2008 08:34 PM:

ive hunted blue,black,and english they all got good and bad in all of them....different strokes for different folks....i just prefer coon only type dogs ive done my chasing go yonder on whatever type hounds.....i learned i dont have the patience for that nonsense at all.....i only hunt one type of hound regardless of color....just so happens its a white one with spots right now.

Posted by berger on 06-27-2008 08:38 PM:

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Originally posted by trainman
i always herd that if u find a real good red dog that u have somehing worth more that its weight and gold

If u find a REAL good dog of any coon hound breed is worth more then its weight and gold.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-27-2008 08:46 PM:

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Originally posted by Maniac
i havent seen a dog yet that doesnt need train. they all do in some way .

The Walker Gyp, I have, Treed her first Coon, by her self the third time I put her in the woods. I didnt teach her a darn thing.

The Walker male I own was started as a Hog Dog, He had been Whipped for Treeing Coons, it didnt phase him a bit.

And these two are just average run of the mill Walkers, Not Champions, just representitives of a great breed.

I have not trained them in any way, just hunted them and fed them.

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Posted by MikeO on 06-27-2008 08:49 PM:

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Originally posted by berger
If u find a REAL good dog of any coon hound breed is worth more then its weight and gold.

yep,i aint never had a red dog i would LOVE to try one i really like that color...aint no telling how much money and how many hoops i would have to jump thru to get a pup outta top notch red stock around here.....that would be mission impossible!

Posted by J.J Melin on 06-27-2008 08:53 PM:

around here and down by my dads it's all black and tans and english for the most part yeah you still have your walkers but not many

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Posted by MikeO on 06-27-2008 09:02 PM:

hey monticello indiana,i deliver giant aluminum coils to your hometown on a regular basis to make beer cans so drink more beer....so i can keep chasing hounds.

Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 10:31 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
The Walker Gyp, I have, Treed her first Coon, by her self the third time I put her in the woods. I didnt teach her a darn thing.

The Walker male I own was started as a Hog Dog, He had been Whipped for Treeing Coons, it didnt phase him a bit.

And these two are just average run of the mill Walkers, Not Champions, just representitives of a great breed.

I have not trained them in any way, just hunted them and fed them.

i dont want a avrage dog. they mite start early but you still half to train them. and there are other breeds that do the same thing . if you wasnt color blind you would see.

Posted by dualthumper1yr on 06-27-2008 10:53 PM:

i would hunt a pink poodle if it would tree me a coon. i havent hunted none of mine in a hunt yet because they arent ready or old enough yet but they can get the job done. just have a few minor things to work on and then grand here i come. something bout i walker i just haven't like or might not of hunted with the right one yet. i was raised with blues and black and tans i guess thats why i love them but i'll hunt anydog that will get the job done right.

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Posted by Maniac on 06-27-2008 11:18 PM:

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Originally posted by dualthumper1yr
i would hunt a pink poodle if it would tree me a coon. i havent hunted none of mine in a hunt yet because they arent ready or old enough yet but they can get the job done. just have a few minor things to work on and then grand here i come. something bout i walker i just haven't like or might not of hunted with the right one yet. i was raised with blues and black and tans i guess thats why i love them but i'll hunt anydog that will get the job done right.

im just saying that i hunt walker and im not color blind. i know a good one when i see one. in any breed

Posted by Family on 06-27-2008 11:51 PM:

HEy I know we all like what we own..duh. but WHY ARE THERE 7 PAGES OF WALKER STUD DOGS IN THE BLOODLINES BOOK? AND THE REPRODUCERS LISTS FOR WALKERS ARE OFF THE CHARTS COMPARED TO OTHER BREEDS?These dogs came from the same stock as others for the most part...maybe except plotts... I dont want to argue Im sure we all keep what makes us Happy....Thats a given no need to argue over the breeds ...Was looking for something about this group of houndsman and that group of houndsman...who really made sure nailor bred ( OR ANYOTHER CHAMP STUD)..these different lines or Heck did the old timers just breed anything that would stand for the ole champions....see what I'm sayin...Think I'm answerin my own question as I read all these responses... and strive to see it from other views on other sites also......dont wanna cause probs.

Posted by jestra on 06-28-2008 12:31 AM:

Was told a story by an old coonhunter that he seen a guy shoot a coon out to two walkers and they never stopped treeing to even go after the coon. treepower!

Posted by MikeO on 06-28-2008 12:41 AM:

thats a good question family.....i would guess pretty much anything that would stand was bred to nailor,rat,maybe sackett jr but not near as much as nailor,rat.....why????....because they are so dominant....a guy bred his potlicker that couldnt tree a coon to rat and got a litter of tree dogs...word spread so on and so on....is that a bad thing???...i dont know but thats how it goes.

Posted by MikeO on 06-28-2008 12:43 AM:

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Originally posted by jestra
Was told a story by an old coonhunter that he seen a guy shoot a coon out to two walkers and they never stopped treeing to even go after the coon. treepower!

did that guy put his CRACKPIPE down to tell you that story???????

Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-28-2008 12:52 AM:

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Originally posted by Maniac
i dont want a avrage dog. they mite start early but you still half to train them. and there are other breeds that do the same thing . if you wasnt color blind you would see.

You show me a hound of any other Color with half as much heart, as the Walkers Im hunting now, and I would buy it.
Im not color blind, just realistic.

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Posted by fatboy77 on 06-28-2008 01:10 AM:

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
You show me a hound of any other Color with half as much heart, as the Walkers Im hunting now, and I would buy it.
Im not color blind, just realistic.

you have never ever seen a plot tree (lol)

i hunt plotts and blue dogs but i used to hunt walkers
but the walkers i had just didnt have the (lol) heart to do what i asked of them
just like every other breed them walkers slick treeed( just like plotts do) seen them walkers pi$$ and bellar on a track (just like a blue dog) even seen them walkers smoke a deer(just like a black dog) even seen them walkers tree off game (just like them red dogs)
but what the walkers i hunted didnt do was handle being corected they tucked there tails and where pouty for days
my point is you get out of a dog what you put in
i think the reason there are so many walker dogs out there is because everyone wants to win right now and dont care if there dog has holes
i have yet to see a complete dog in any breed not saying that there isnt one

(ONE REASON THERE ARE SO MANY WALKERS IS CAUSE FEMALES ARE STILL BEING BACKED UNDER THEM MALE DOGS) sorry just trying to be funny

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