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Posted by blake jones on 04-03-2008 03:48 AM:

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Originally posted by evan ashley
just remember the shape of the heads a copper head, rattle snake, cotton mouth and coral snake all have pointed heads wide in the back and come to kinda a point in the front non-poisnious snakes are more square in the front it's easy to tell the difference

all the snakes listed do have the pointed heads and wide at the back (triangle shaped) except the coral snake

when it comes to these snakes just remember red on yellow kill a fellow, red on black friend of jack. this is in reference to the bands of color touching each other. red on yellow is the coral snake and red on black is the king snake I believe.

Posted by countrygirlcoon on 04-03-2008 03:54 AM:

Drew, I am not doubting you at all, but I have never encountered a corn snake with markings such as these, and never had that arrow-shapped of a head. Most corn snakes that I have encounterd look like this....

Rowdyhound....

Here is what I would do.... Since the snake is already dead, very carefully open the mouth and check to see if it has pits (venom glands and fangs) MAKE SURE TO WEAR THICK GLOVES!!! Even though a snake is dead, it can still emitt venom. If it has pits, then it is a good thing you killed it, but also take it to a local zoo or reptile sanctuary so that they can identify it.

Also, where you found this snake, was it near any water, like a creek or pond?? It looks like it is swollen... sometimes snakes will bask in water to rehydrate themselves, and appear bloated.

I never second guess a type of snake I don't know. If it is unreconizable to me, then it is dead, so tha I can clearly identify it safely.

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Posted by Buckshot on 04-03-2008 04:21 AM:

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Originally posted by countrygirlcoon
Drew, I am not doubting you at all, but I have never encountered a corn snake with markings such as these, and never had that arrow-shapped of a head. Most corn snakes that I have encounterd look like this....

Corn snakes come in different colors and varieties.........I am from Alabama, so cornsnakes in Texas will have varieties not scene in Alabama or other east coast states.

The snake is dead and from the looks of the pic, it looks like the killing damage came at the head.

If it's not a corn snake, the only other snake it could would be an Eastern Hognose.

Since Rowdy didn't mention a Cobra like head, I didn't mention an Eastern Hognose as a possible ID.

Posted by EerieEyes on 04-03-2008 07:17 AM:

hooray, a snake thread... a few comments back someone mentioned pet snakes... anyone want to buy a boa? mine needs to leave.

Posted by coon dawg on 04-03-2008 11:24 AM:

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...have worked alot with snakes...........did herp surveys on Alligator River NWR in coastal NC, Pee Dee NWR in NC, and Sandhills NWR in SC....then alot of work on Georgia's Coastal Islands................for you folks around Manteo NC, the Cottonmouth was the most encountered snake during my study...................................and y'all shouldn't let the small ones bother you........those Eastern Diamonbacks out on Sapelo Island get huge.............see a 6 and a half foot one, with a head the size of a handball...it will get your attention...........lolol

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Posted by rowdyhound on 04-03-2008 02:20 PM:

Is the Hognose poisnious? And how big do they get? And yes it was shot in the head. This snake was found up near my house in my back yard. The hounds had it cornered, nothing gets a free pass across the yard with them out, and it was extrememly MAD.

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Posted by coon dawg on 04-03-2008 02:47 PM:

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Originally posted by rowdyhound
Is the Hognose poisnious? And how big do they get? And yes it was shot in the head. This snake was found up near my house in my back yard. The hounds had it cornered, nothing gets a free pass across the yard with them out, and it was extrememly MAD.

.............no...........and a Hognose is one of the few that just WON'T bite you.....................you pick 'em up, they will play dead like a possum.............they will make like they are gonna bite you, even flair their head open like a cobra...........but will never do it...........ps-a real big one will go 4 feet.......

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Posted by Dale Young on 04-03-2008 03:27 PM:

Yep , I usually just check enough to tell it's a snake and my natual reaction takes care of the rest. By the time I get close enough to look for all those features that tell if there poisnious or not it's kinda hard to tell.

Posted by rowdyhound on 04-03-2008 03:38 PM:

LOL Mr Dale you sound like my husband!!!!!!!!! He don't ask questions till its dead then he'll ask me is it poisnious???? We had my pup and another dog bitten by a copperhead in their kennels last year and those 2 looked awful, since then he don't let snakes live around here.

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