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Posted by elvis on 10-17-2006 04:31 AM:

in my opinion lipper threw the breed back ten years.
5000 pups and 97% culls.the only dogs directly off lipper that i ever thought were good dogs were off females that produced good pups no matter what they were bred to.
how the heck he ever got that many pups on the ground with a p.a.d like his,ill never know.
everyone has an opinion and thats mine.
but i will say this. some people i have the utmost respect for and know more about coondogs and coonhunting than i will ever know,absolutely swore by lipper and his pups.
i guess it just goes to show that if we all liked the same things,the life of a coonhunter would be dull .

Posted by wildbill on 10-17-2006 04:37 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pete & Michelle...

quote:
Originally posted by wkfii
MAYBE, I HAVE TO CHECK MY PEDS. THE MEMORARY IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE. WITH HOUSE YOU NEVER KNOW ANYWAY.

lol,,i know about the memory thing,,lol

maybe this female of mine can jog your memory,,lol

..........gr nt ch 'pr' house's clint (tom tom)
.......gr nt ch gr ch 'pr' guess' deanwood drifter
..........nt ch gr ch 'pr' guess ky super sally ll
....ch gr nt ch 'pr' welch's drifting floyd
..........gr nt ch gr ch 'pr' houses lipper(house clint)
.......lippers renegade lady
..........gr ch gr nt ch 'pr' neosho riv renegade(neosho riv.jet)
.. fullhouse hazel
..........gr nt ch 'pr' house's lawyer ( lipper)
.......gr nt ch 'pr' conger's lawtoo
..........'pr' house's bell ( clint x tom female)
....'pr' saylor's cruzen samantha
...........gr nt ch 'pr' house's cruze ( clint )
.......'pr' house's cruz brandy
...........gr nt ch'pr' collin's ohio lisa ( houses hank- tom tom )

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Posted by wkfii on 10-17-2006 09:03 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pete & Michelle...

quote:
Originally posted by wkfii
MAYBE, I HAVE TO CHECK MY PEDS. THE MEMORARY IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE. WITH HOUSE YOU NEVER KNOW ANYWAY.

You are right, Judy was Clint's mother. Clint was by Tom Tom by Kentucky Judy. That Queen Lou had a funny looking head.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-17-2006 10:38 PM:

wouldnt the rexs dog be a full brother looks like
somebody would cross back on some of his blood

Posted by wkfii on 10-17-2006 10:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blueticking: it
wouldnt the rexs dog be a full brother looks like
somebody would cross back on some of his blood

To be honest, most of the good Lipper hounds were crossed with a good female. In many circles, Deanwood Drifter is held in higher esteem. Like I said, Queen Lou had a funny looking head.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-17-2006 11:12 PM:

i will take tom tom over dean wood drifter

Posted by wkfii on 10-17-2006 11:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blueticking: it
i will take tom tom over dean wood drifter

I can see that. What do you think about the change in the look of House's hounds after that cross to Queen Lou?

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-17-2006 11:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wkfii
I can see that. What do you think about the change in the look of House's hounds after that cross to Queen Lou?

i would say if you look back at past world show dogs
they looked good.tara 2 was straight off lipper and
was the role model for walker dogs breed stand
for 3-4 yrs.ky river boomer was out of her and
is the worlds youngest world champ.

Posted by larrypoe on 10-17-2006 11:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wkfii
Like I said, Queen Lou had a funny looking head.

Think I saw that same head in a Lipper daughter. GRNTCH Sac River Fancy. Kinda narrow and long. She was the best daughter I ever saw out of Lipper though. Quick on both ends. Man she could drive a track. Hard hard tree dog.

She was one of those dogs you had to hunt down to keep them looking good. Im talking 5 or 6 hard nights a week. The stereotype Lipper dog at the time. High-strung.

When she was on, you couldn't beat her. When she wasn't, you wanted to beat her.

Posted by Hiphop on 10-18-2006 01:16 AM:

I have one with that strange long lipper head, typical lipper dog just the way larry described her. She 's more like his pups than alot of his direct pups

Posted by Jeff H. on 10-18-2006 03:01 AM:

Lipper

I had a good source tell me that Queen Lou was the kind of gyp that ran the pen in circles nonstop. Neurotic acting . He said thats where the high strung stuff came from. I know some of the Lipper bred dogs do have that long narrow snout . Matter of fact I own one like that . But in her day I would put her against any dog in the country and have hunted her with some pretty darn good ones and she has held her own. She'll be 11 years old in April of next year and 3 nights ago she went right by a 5 year old that hung up slick and took the track on and treed a big boar coon while a 18 month old male dog was running a coyote right by her and she never budged . Treed the only coon we seen . And oh yeah ....she's a little hyper. But she has always been like the one fellow said ....quick on both ends. I know one thing ...I wish I had another one just like her when she was younger !!
Her daddy was Inbred Lipper ....... Houses Lipper X Lippers Kate(Lippers daughter)
The first pic was taken about 3weeks ago and the second one about 3 years ago I think.

Of course I have to say ....Her mother was a GR.Nt grandaughter of River Bend Flag and she was a born natural tree dog

Posted by M Gusse on 10-18-2006 03:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by larrypoe
Think I saw that same head in a Lipper daughter. GRNTCH Sac River Fancy. Kinda narrow and long. She was the best daughter I ever saw out of Lipper though. Quick on both ends. Man she could drive a track. Hard hard tree dog.

She was one of those dogs you had to hunt down to keep them looking good. Im talking 5 or 6 hard nights a week. The stereotype Lipper dog at the time. High-strung.

When she was on, you couldn't beat her. When she wasn't, you wanted to beat her.

The nights I seen her go we wanted to beat her. I think I have the right female here, she was bred to Nailor I believe. The Ultimate Brutis was out of her if its the same gyp.

Posted by Russell Boyette on 10-18-2006 03:23 AM:

Re: Lipper

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff H.
I had a good source tell me that Queen Lou was the kind of gyp that ran the pen in circles nonstop. Neurotic acting . He said thats where the high strung stuff came from. I know some of the Lipper bred dogs do have that long narrow snout . Matter of fact I own one like that . But in her day I would put her against any dog in the country and have hunted her with some pretty darn good ones and she has held her own. She'll be 11 years old in April of next year and 3 nights ago she went right by a 5 year old that hung up slick and took the track on and treed a big boar coon while a 18 month old male dog was running a coyote right by her and she never budged . Treed the only coon we seen . And oh yeah ....she's a little hyper. But she has always been like the one fellow said ....quick on both ends. I know one thing ...I wish I had another one just like her when she was younger !!
Her daddy was Inbred Lipper ....... Houses Lipper X Lippers Kate(Lippers daughter)
The first pic was taken about 3weeks ago and the second one about 3 years ago I think.

Of course I have to say ....Her mother was a GR.Nt grandaughter of River Bend Flag and she was a born natural tree dog

I bet she was out of Ozark's Lip

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-18-2006 03:29 AM:

Jeff i had a dog out of clint and a beaver lake dog
on the bottom.
the whole litter was hyper and most made
some type of dog

Posted by Jeff H. on 10-18-2006 03:30 AM:

Re: Re: Lipper

quote:
Originally posted by Russell Boyette
I bet she was out of Ozark's Lip

Yep!! ...out of Gr Nt Skee's Dixie who was by Swift Creek Magnum (a direct son of Flag)

Posted by Jeff H. on 10-18-2006 03:41 AM:

Yep!!

quote:
Originally posted by blueticking: it
Jeff i had a dog out of clint and a beaver lake dog
on the bottom.
the whole litter was hyper and most made
some type of dog

This bitch of mine just LOVES to get turned loose to TREE Coons . She absolutely lives for it . When she knows you are going to load some dogs to go she just flips. She has settled of course with her age and is the best calmest dog in the kennel until you bring the light out and she just freaks . I have hunted her for 9-10 years and I very seldom ever cut her loose that she don't tree a coon .

Posted by zapper on 10-18-2006 03:47 AM:

Re: Lipper

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff H.
I had a good source tell me that Queen Lou was the kind of gyp that ran the pen in circles nonstop. Neurotic acting . He said thats where the high strung stuff came from. I know some of the Lipper bred dogs do have that long narrow snout . Matter of fact I own one like that . But in her day I would put her against any dog in the country and have hunted her with some pretty darn good ones and she has held her own. She'll be 11 years old in April of next year and 3 nights ago she went right by a 5 year old that hung up slick and took the track on and treed a big boar coon while a 18 month old male dog was running a coyote right by her and she never budged . Treed the only coon we seen . And oh yeah ....she's a little hyper. But she has always been like the one fellow said ....quick on both ends. I know one thing ...I wish I had another one just like her when she was younger !!
Her daddy was Inbred Lipper ....... Houses Lipper X Lippers Kate(Lippers daughter)
The first pic was taken about 3weeks ago and the second one about 3 years ago I think.

Of course I have to say ....Her mother was a GR.Nt grandaughter of River Bend Flag and she was a born natural tree dog

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Posted by Jeff H. on 10-18-2006 04:01 AM:

Zapper

Mix you some Flag blood with that Lipper semen and I'll call you anything you want me to!!

I saved your # but I actually have my name on a list already for a Rank gyp pup out of a Gr Nt Gunslinger female .

We'll see what happens

Posted by larrypoe on 10-18-2006 02:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by M Gusse
The nights I seen her go we wanted to beat her. I think I have the right female here, she was bred to Nailor I believe. The Ultimate Brutis was out of her if its the same gyp.

Sure was. Thats the same gyp. I kicked the first 5 or so coons out that Brutis and his brother ever saw. Hunted a sister to them also. Im Fancy Too was her name. I was there the night she treed her first coon, the first night we took her.

Randy Abney owned her and finished her to GRNTCH. He is the one who bred her to Nailer. She spent the rest of her heat cycle in my kennel after she was bred to him. Randy was afraid she would get with something else at his house, as his pens werent very good.

I hunted with Randy for almost a year. I saw Fancy go from pup to tree dog. We hunted her and my Pride dog togather all that time, and rode around to the hunts togather.

Like I said, you absolutly had to hunt that dog down. I meen hunt her like you were trying to kill her. 5-6 hours a night 5-6 nights a week. Put her up for a couple days, and she ran around like a crazy dog. Wired 440 was an understatement.

Keep her hunted and you couldnt beat her on either end. When she won, she usualy had 1st and 1st on every coon. This was WAY before the minute rule. They were scratched for the first loose bark.

Posted by zapper on 10-18-2006 06:15 PM:

Re: houses lipper

quote:
Originally posted by michelle
im new to all this i heard that houses lipper was a good dog he is my dog grandad could any one tell me what happened to himand how old or is there a web sit e on him

GRNTCH HOUSES LIPPER DIED DEC. 26TH , 1995 IN KY. A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STRAWS OF FROZEN SEMEN REMAIN.THESE STRAWS AND LIPPERS OFFSPRING ARE ALL THAT REMAIN OF THE LEGACY OF THIS TREEING WALKER LEGEND.

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Posted by Jeff H. on 10-18-2006 09:15 PM:

Zapper

Where are you located ??

Posted by zapper on 10-18-2006 09:56 PM:

Re: Zapper

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff H.
Where are you located ??

KENDALLVILLE,INDIANA (NORTH EASTERN)260-318-1672

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Posted by zapper on 10-19-2006 11:16 AM:

btt

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Posted by Riverbend on 10-19-2006 11:29 AM:

WANT FEMALES DO YOU HAVE BREED TO THE LIPPER SEMEN AND WILL YOU SELL ANY

Posted by zapper on 10-19-2006 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Riverbend
WANT FEMALES DO YOU HAVE BREED TO THE LIPPER SEMEN AND WILL YOU SELL ANY

I DONT HAVE ANY FEMALES FOR SALE. I AM GOING TO BREED ONE MORE FEMALE TO GRNTCH HOUSES LIPPER SEMEN IN NOVEMBER.I WILL POST AFTER I DO THE BREEDING.

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