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Posted by on 12-21-2007 08:41 PM:

Re: hey Mr. Two Toes

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Originally posted by willseeyalater
Try to find some dogwood to make walking sticks. Use the cornus florida type, it is the stuff that grows down south and blooms so nice. If you find a good young tree dig it up roots and all. Lots of time the roots angle out and can be part of your design. Plus what is more fitting than dogwood to carve hound dogs on. ha ha If you find a good one that had a honeysuckle vine twisting up it then it has the nice spiral scar already for your imagination to use. Osage orange is real pretty to but it is one of those trees you have to drive south to find. Just some tips. Your carving looks real nice, I can see you don't need any tips on that side at all from me. Where in WI do you live?


Thats what I like about it among other thing's is seein the wood come to life. Purty fussy 'bout what I cut & use. Have heard that about the osage orange & actually ran into a guy not to long ago that live's 15 miles away & said he has some of that growin in his yard & he would really like me to come fetch up some of it to give a try. Also has a pretty heavy stand of hickory sapling's that need a good stiff thinnin.

Thank's for the tip's!!

I am in the scenic southwest part of the state..


Posted by BIGCASTLEDAWGS on 12-21-2007 09:24 PM:

Dogwood...

...one of my all time favorite trees...if it's pruned right! Grew up with a Japanese garden... my Mother is the queen of pruning and did (still does at 88 yrs)her own pruning. Her dogwoods... gnarled and Gorgeous! Osage Orange just Sounds like it Smells good, Does it?

Makes me hungry actually...LOL........

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Posted by on 12-21-2007 09:34 PM:

"DIAMOND WILLOW"

I had a guy get a chunk of Diamond Willow for me to work on for his future father-in-law. That's some groovy wood as well.

Have had some give me peice's to work on & some are just way to thin to do anything with as far as carving goes & keep any kind of rigidness.

What I like is along the line's of the one posted of the big morel on top. That one came out of the guy's grandpa's yard off'n a tree that was planted the year he was born. Mean's a bit more yet in a case like that.


Posted by willseeyalater on 12-21-2007 10:07 PM:

osage orange smell??

I guess some folks would like the smell and others probably not like so many things. The fruit are not real oranges. Folks put them in the basements to repel spiders...not sure if that works or not. The wood is very strong, custom bowyers make some nice wood bows out of them. I don't know that the wood holds much scent after it is dry. Oh well, that's enough, maybe someone else can add or correct me on that. Wood sure is interesting though, some are just right for certain uses.


Posted by BIGCASTLEDAWGS on 12-21-2007 10:24 PM:

Re: osage orange smell??

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Originally posted by willseeyalater
I guess some folks would like the smell and others probably not like so many things. The fruit are not real oranges. Folks put them in the basements to repel spiders...not sure if that works or not. The wood is very strong, custom bowyers make some nice wood bows out of them. I don't know that the wood holds much scent after it is dry. Oh well, that's enough, maybe someone else can add or correct me on that. Wood sure is interesting though, some are just right for certain uses.


LOL... If it repels SPIDERS then I'd like it! LOL! I actually looked it up online.(I'm a bit obsessive about learning) I saw info on the Bows and some violins etc. Very Pretty wood when finished. The fruits are UGLY! Said they'd probably make you vomit.... That is as much as I retained. I'm pretty pleased to have retained THAT much!

The tree itself was not all that attractive.
I love different woods in furniture and art and instruments etc. I can't play a guitar worth beans but I Love to see them with clear finish and look at the wood. I have tried wood carving but wasn't very good....I don't like not being able to Fix a mistake... clay or wax was fixable....LOL....

If you ever have a chance to see one of Russ' sticks in person I think you'll be pleased!

Thanks for the info! Heather

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Posted by mjflores on 12-22-2007 12:45 AM:

Heather and Bob, those photos are too funny....I was laughing my butt off when I saw them!! hahaha


Posted by BIGCASTLEDAWGS on 12-22-2007 03:19 AM:

Yeah...

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Originally posted by mjflores
Heather and Bob, those photos are too funny....I was laughing my butt off when I saw them!! hahaha


We did have a bit too much fun! I decided the Webster Family(MY family)... are ALL NUTS! They were cheering us on and having a blast... What a bunch of kooks! Hmmm.... wonder where I got it from? LOL....

always glad to give you a good laugh Mike!

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Posted by John D on 12-22-2007 05:52 AM:

Re: osage orange smell??

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Originally posted by willseeyalater
I guess some folks would like the smell and others probably not like so many things. The fruit are not real oranges. Folks put them in the basements to repel spiders...not sure if that works or not. The wood is very strong, custom bowyers make some nice wood bows out of them. I don't know that the wood holds much scent after it is dry. Oh well, that's enough, maybe someone else can add or correct me on that. Wood sure is interesting though, some are just right for certain uses.


Awww, Osage Orange...

I think everything you;ve said is right. I'm not sure about repelling spiders, but I've heard of it.

I grew up thinking Osage Orange, or Hedge trees as we called them must exist everywhere since it was such a nuisance around here and almost every old fencerow was grown up with it. But I've never seen more of it than I've seen in the Osage area here, of Western Missouri.

I don't think it has any scent. The heartwood is orange and is pretty striking.

Its supposedly the hardest, densest wood in North America. Indians made bows out of it and even today a 6 ft. lenght of heartwood with no knots is pretty desirable by bow makers. I'd think it would make an outstanding, almost unbreakable, walking stick.

When the land was being settled, they supposedly planted the stuff on property boundaries to use as a natural fence. If pruned and kept small, its a tangled thorny mess that held livestock. But they weren't kept pruned, grew tall and thick and produced miles upon miles of hedgerows.

Its also outstanding firewood, puts out alot of heat. But it pops alot so its not real good for fireplaces.

The biggest use I see for it is in fence posts. The wood is very rot resistant and posts stuck in the ground can last 50-75 years.

I've got about 25 acres on my property that is pretty thick with it, not to mention about 3/4 mile of fencerow with some pretty big logs in it. I've cut a few hundred fence posts. I've toyed with the idea of trying to get some sawn into lumber. As hard and rot resistant as it is, its got to be good for something...

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Posted by Bluedogman on 12-22-2007 06:49 AM:

Re: LOL.....

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Originally posted by BIGCASTLEDAWGS
Johnny.... Judging by the use TT has put on his thru the woods... they MAY hold up to a whack across MOST heads. Bob and I decided....LOL... MY HEAD is SO HARD I'd break one! SEE how this one is shaped to FIT my head? LOL...

LOL Those are pretty impressive photos! You look like you mean business and I see Bob is standing back!

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Posted by Ricochet17 on 12-22-2007 07:02 AM:

Pictures don't do enough for those sticks. Seeing them in-person and holding one in your hand is pretty neat too. So I guess TT's you'll be needing some 08' coins?

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Posted by Bluedogman on 12-22-2007 07:03 AM:

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Originally posted by Two toes
Depend's how far ya wind-up I reckon...LOL!! Seriously,pretty tough. I use Maple alot because of the awsome wood grain you can bring out.In fact spend as much time bringing out the natural grain of the wood as almost the rest. Do thing's kinda primitive but it's more satisfying to me.

Got the first one I made & it is locust. Like carvin cement but ya wanna talk about some strong stuff now. I use it for a hammer,pry bar,ice buster,you name it. Actually surprised it hasn't broke cuz I have tried.

Some walnut & hopin to collect some hickory in the near furure.

Locust sounds good and I KNOW that hickory will do the job. Make MINE outa the OSAGE ORANGE though please! You can put the mantel piece on hold til MINE is done! OK?

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Posted by on 12-22-2007 12:57 PM:

"FETCH ME UP SOME"

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Originally posted by Bluedogman
Locust sounds good and I KNOW that hickory will do the job. Make MINE outa the OSAGE ORANGE though please! You can put the mantel piece on hold til MINE is done! OK?




Now I'm a lil intrigued by this osage orange stuff & wantin to fetch me some up. I can do that for ya but I'll warn ya,Some of them take me over a month to do cuz I am only able to piddle with them here & there due to my health. I think I have done 18 in close to 2 years is all but there seem's to be one layin on the bench a waitin on me for when I'm up to it all the time.

Dr's took my driver's license 13 month's ago,unable to do much so this is just one of the way's I keep myself outa the fruit bin at the pick & save!

I enjoy doing it even if it's an hour here & there.


Posted by on 12-22-2007 12:59 PM:

"COPY THAT"

quote:
Originally posted by Ricochet17
Pictures don't do enough for those sticks. Seeing them in-person and holding one in your hand is pretty neat too. So I guess TT's you'll be needing some 08' coins?


Think I can get any before the Green Bay gig?


Posted by mjflores on 12-22-2007 01:45 PM:

Two Toes, I've got acres upon acres of Black Gum Tree on my property. I can try to gather a stick of that and get it to Heather if ya want to try that stuff. It's supposed to be extremely hard and dense. It was "the wood" for making wagon wheels I've heard. I know it's awful hard to split and seems to burn for a long time. Someday I plan to skid out a tree or two and have it sawn to 3/4" thick flooring, and lay it on one of the rooms of the house. I always thought that would be kinda neat.


Posted by on 12-22-2007 03:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mjflores
Two Toes, I've got acres upon acres of Black Gum Tree on my property. I can try to gather a stick of that and get it to Heather if ya want to try that stuff. It's supposed to be extremely hard and dense. It was "the wood" for making wagon wheels I've heard. I know it's awful hard to split and seems to burn for a long time. Someday I plan to skid out a tree or two and have it sawn to 3/4" thick flooring, and lay it on one of the rooms of the house. I always thought that would be kinda neat.


I've heard that as well. If the opportunity was to present itself I'd sure give'r a try.

The potential flooring sound's purty sweet as well. Isn't it amazing the difference from one geographical location to another when it come's to Ma nature & all her splender's?

The Diamond willow is some pretty sweet stuff & strong as well. been told that is for the most part a "Way up 'nort" kinda wood.


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