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Originally posted by rocky tanner
How would ?

19 out of 20 be considered "above average"
17 out of 20 good
15 out of 20 fair

I promise you 15 out of 20 is above the true average.

The other thing to consider is how many turnouts did it take to make 20 trees.

If I had a dog that had 19 out 20 coons on 20 turnouts I would own the coonhunts. Getting beat would be very rare for a man that has this. It's hard to imagine even being cheated out of many.

What if they had 19 out of 20 coons and the other 1 was an oppossum? I personally would rather walk to a slick tree every now and then.

According to some previous posts about Walker dogs by Sheep I would think the average would be 10 out of 20 or less.

Not an acceptable average , but the average still the same.

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Originally posted by sheepster
winning in competition has very little to do with Accuracy and Consisntency. It has a lot more to do with stuff like

1. Handling (first and foremost)
2. loudness (hard to call a dog treed that you can't hear on the other side of a mountain)
3. quickness to locate the tree
4. Not leaveing the tree come a Hurricane or World war 3.
5. Babbling (first strike)

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Keep 'em in the woods.

19 out of 20 ain't too bad. By yourself with just you and your dog. I'd still like my chances. With an accurate dog against all these tree grabbers. JMO

Can't help volume and quickness to locate.

Still think 15 out of 20 is above the average that's out there.

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Originally posted by honalieh
If you walk into a tree EXPECTING to see a coon, you've probably got a pretty accurate dog!

If you walk into a tree HOPING to see a coon, you probably don't have an accurate dog.

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Originally posted by miner49er
I would like to hunt some of the Northern dogs in my country for 30 nights and see how many coon they tree, not that they couldn't but I believe it would take some time to acclimate themselves to this area and the coon being scarce.

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I have hunted with many of those so called accurate hounds. It's just that their owners have a tough time remembering those three slick trees in a row. That means they have to tree 57 trees with coon in them to have that 95% accuracy rating. Don't bring those super hounds to this country, you will be disapointed.

Over half the dogs on this thread are over 90% accurate.Now thats funny right there.I dont care who ya are!!!!!!! Maybe there are more world champs just tied out behind the barn than I thought LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't like the choices because it only counts out of trees made.

I'd count the number of trees made with coon in them versus the number of times the dog is cut loose.

A dog quitting a track and coming in, or one that has to be called in because it doesn't appear he'll ever end the track, is no better than one that slick trees, to me.

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Originally posted by John D
I don't like the choices because it only counts out of trees made.

I'd count the number of trees made with coon in them versus the number of times the dog is cut loose.

A dog quitting a track and coming in, or one that has to be called in because it doesn't appear he'll ever end the track, is no better than one that slick trees, to me.

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Sheep----------I'd have to disagree with you on this one. In my likited experience in the competition hunts, it's been my experience that accuracy and consistency are the 2 most important things a hound can have going for it to be a consistent winner in the hunts. Slick handling, babbling, and volume (and also ill temperment) can get you an occassional win, but there won't be any regularity in going to the pay window.

Re: Forget the numbers!

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Originally posted by honalieh
If you walk into a tree EXPECTING to see a coon, you've probably got a pretty accurate dog!

If you walk into a tree HOPING to see a coon, you probably don't have an accurate dog.

When people start talking about numbers and percentages, the lies and excuses start coming into play.
You either see the coon (100%), or you don't (0%). I don't accept very many dont's.

I usually know if I have a den before I walk in, because I know my dog, and I usually know the woods, and where the dens are! If I have to walk to a tree with a confidence of 70%, 80%, etc., then I don't fully trust the dog to show me a coon. If that's the case, the lack of confidence is probably justified by past performance.

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Here in Ontario i would say if your dog trees on 17 out of 20 tree's you do have a good dog, coons up here are hard to find later in the season(snow) but the ones you find are good coons with a heavy grade coat on em, earlier in the season when the corn is prime you will do really well and will expect walking to every tree gauranteed one or more coons.


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Location does not matter. If I take a dog to ky or where ever they are scarce then I up my chances of not getting a bark correct?? And thats cause they are scarce or not moving/present. It doesn't mean the dog is a idiot...I mean it aint his fault they are scarce and he don't know any difference in region...come on, some of us need to get real LOL!!!

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i have hunted forty + YEARS and have a hundred dollar bill and a steak dinner if you come up here in mongo in and show me 20 coon in a row or even 18 out of 20 come on down give me a call olie smith 260-562-3264

During kill season, my hound's will have the meat at every time they tree, but when Im comp hunting I get some slick tree's. I think during kill season the dog is more relaxed and just goes with the flow. But comp. hunting I think but's more stress on the dog, when thier's different dog's and handler's to work with.

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Whoever voted for 10 out of 20 must be real easy to please!

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Averaged out over the course "AN ENTIRE YEAR", if a dog finishes 9 out of 10 strikes and you see a coon on the outside of 6 of those 9 finished tracks I think you could say you have one above average. I'm sure there are hounds out there that put up better numbers, I am still looking for that one that does. Just an observation from my limited experience in these Southern Ohio woodlots.

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Originally posted by John D
I don't like the choices because it only counts out of trees made.

I'd count the number of trees made with coon in them versus the number of times the dog is cut loose.

A dog quitting a track and coming in, or one that has to be called in because it doesn't appear he'll ever end the track, is no better than one that slick trees, to me.

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