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Posted by josh tetting on 01-23-2007 04:09 AM:

not really

i think breeding has something to do with it but not all of it i think training and instinct has alot to do with it and breeding i think dosent always put the instinct in the dog look at all the top stud dogs in history they all had hundreds of pups and out of those hundreds of pups how many made it as well as there father not many compared to all the pups as a hole lets say a male had 800 pups on the ground over ten years and lets just say 50 made nitech or better people would say hes reproducing but even at fifty thats a low presentage there were still 750 that were good for nothing. i feel you have the same chances getting a good dog from so so parents and bloodlines than you do from flashy well known ones it just depends on the dog its self and its owner and that consists of forming trust and getting the dog out there hunting. do you guys think jet 8 came the two best coon dogs in the world probly not danny saw something in him and gets him out there to do it and thats what it comes down to. i'm not saying every dog is going to be a superstar but i do think alot of dogs are givin up on entirely to early. look at other breeds of dogs i have a black lab came from to farmdogs that really dont do anything it took me almost four years to get her going on phesants and now i'd put her against any dog in the field now tell me was that breeding

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Posted by V. Cannon on 01-23-2007 04:16 AM:

Jim I never said that I had seen or hunted your dog, I said I was told how he performed and I posted what I had been told. You told me yourself he was only possessed one nutt, so who isn't telling the truth? Jim did you lie to me?

Posted by J. Hill on 01-23-2007 04:18 AM:

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Originally posted by V. Cannon
Jim I never said that I had seen or hunted your dog, I said I was told how he performed and I posted what I had been told. You told me yourself he was only possessed one nutt, so who isn't telling the truth? Jim did you lie to me?

lol tell u want u want to see what a coondog is come hunt with him it isnt that far of a drive for you hunt with a dog before u talk crap voyd

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Posted by V. Cannon on 01-23-2007 04:21 AM:

Josh, I belive that just about any dog that isn't lazy can be trained if you have patients, some dogs require more time to get them wanting to please you than others and will test our patients to the breaking point.

Posted by josh tetting on 01-23-2007 04:24 AM:

yep

it all comes down to forming a bond and the dog trusting you enough to please you

Posted by V. Cannon on 01-23-2007 04:26 AM:

Jim, why do want to pick on me? I'm not on here badmouthing your dog, you're the one that started this.

Jim I know what a coondog is, if you're so insecure about your dogs ability that you want me to see him just load him up and bring him here, I don't really want to see him but what ever makes your stick float.

Posted by josh tetting on 01-23-2007 04:26 AM:

hey jim?

hey jim?

Posted by J. Hill on 01-23-2007 04:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by V. Cannon
Jim, why do want to pick on me? I'm not on here badmouthing your dog, you're the one that started this.

Jim I know what a coondog is, if you're so insecure about your dogs ability that you want me to see him just load him up and bring him here, I don't really want to see him but what ever makes your stick float.

lol so am i going down south or to iowa let me know

Posted by J. Hill on 01-23-2007 04:28 AM:

Re: hey jim?

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Originally posted by josh tetting
hey jim?

whats up man how have u been u talk to steve yet???

Posted by V. Cannon on 01-23-2007 04:30 AM:

Josh, I have always said that I want a dog that trys to please me instead themselves, It's kinda like a straight dog isn't ever straight until it's a broke dog, sometimes it taks punishment and sometimes it takes intelligence with the willingness to please.

Posted by josh tetting on 01-23-2007 04:31 AM:

i called

i called steve on sunday got a recording that said sprint sevises were down so i'll try again this week

Posted by V. Cannon on 01-23-2007 04:34 AM:

Jim, my # 580 889 9494, is that a minn number?

Jim I won't argue with you tonight, maybe tomorrow night we can disscuss one nutted dogs but lets try to be nice tonight.

Posted by J. Hill on 01-23-2007 04:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by V. Cannon
Jim, my # 580 889 9494, is that a minn number?

Jim I won't argue with you tonight, maybe tomorrow night we can disscuss one nutted dogs but lets try to be nice tonight.

lol ok voyd , josh ya try to call him again i told him u were trying to get ahold of him

Posted by J. Hill on 01-23-2007 04:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by V. Cannon
Jim, my # 580 889 9494, is that a minn number?

Jim I won't argue with you tonight, maybe tomorrow night we can disscuss one nutted dogs but lets try to be nice tonight.

i didnt say minn i said iowa like around boone iowa

Posted by V. Cannon on 01-23-2007 04:40 AM:

Jim I live in oklahoma, I'm at home now.

Posted by newcoonhunter on 01-23-2007 12:25 PM:

I am new to the sport of 2 1/2 years. The first pup that I got trun out he is NITECH GRCH !!!!!!!!! I spent a lot of time with the pup I listen to people that had something to say. And I put the pup in the woods, at 7 months old he split treed off of his daddy (((BAD BOY BRUSSEL))))))))))

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