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Posted by larrypoe on 08-07-2006 10:50 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
I made the post above last Friday and I now realize it must have offended some that are normally purty hard to offend. I'd like to apolgize to all the good, hardworking MOH's out there that do a job few of us would want. The really good ones are few enough to be of great value to our game. JiM

I usualy am OK with the desision a MOH makes and drop it at that. We all need to realise they are human too, and will make mistakes. I always figured if I was packin enough hound, I would get mine in time. The only ? I have ever taken back in a cast I was judging or just in, was a rare situation that nobody plain knew how to score. They were few.

I did get in a 3 dog cast one time where the other 2 handlers were not only hunting buddys, but the dogs were mother and son. I was judging, and with 30 seconds left on the last tree, was told the dog moved. I took the ? back, knowing the MOH couldnt do anything about a 2-1 vote. I did it to show them for what they were to the rest of the clubhouse.

I was proud of the reputation I had built, when the clubhouse almost lenched both of them. I dont think they even stuck around to get the yellow slip.

I hope to take the MOH test myself soon, and all I can tell you is I will do my best to be fair. I will make mistakes.

Posted by on 08-07-2006 11:19 PM:

Fairness is the easy part.

Posted by CooperCreek on 08-08-2006 12:23 AM:

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Originally posted by JiM
Fairness is the easy part.

Jim, are you a MOH?

Posted by on 08-08-2006 12:49 AM:

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Originally posted by larrypoe
. I did it to show them for what they were to the rest of the clubhouse.

Thats the only thing you can do.

Posted by John D on 08-08-2006 02:32 AM:

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Originally posted by larrypoe
The only ? I have ever taken back in a cast I was judging or just in, was a rare situation that nobody plain knew how to score.

Yeah, but I heard that judge was a cheatin' sob....

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Originally posted by larrypoe
I did it to show them for what they were to the rest of the clubhouse.

You bring up a good point. I almost never bring a question in, because its usually pointless. But I see it kind of like arguing balls and strikes with a baseball umpire. There's no way in the world you're going to win, but you're going to draw everyone's attention to the fact that a judge and/or MOH screwed up, bigtime. Maybe somebody will think twice before they give the card to that guy again or maybe that MOH will go home and study his rules and Advisor a little closer before he MOH's again.

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Posted by larrypoe on 08-08-2006 02:58 AM:

John D, LOL I had forgot about that ?. It kinda fit in the same catagory though.

Are you going to Clinton this weekend? We were, but I dont know about this heat. They are calling for 103 friday. I hate hauling dogs in this.

Looser got bit by a snake a couple of weeks ago, and hasnt been the same sence. Kinda lackluster the last 2 casts, and at home also. I dont know if its the heat, the snake bite, or both. He just seems kinda droopy.

Chelsea, my 13 year old daughter, has been smokin with her pup she is handling for John. Needs 1 more cast win to be ntch, shes 13 months old.

JJ ( the dog I was hunting that night) never did have pups. We had laid her off to have them, so she isnt even close to up for this heat.

Hope to see ya there if we go.

Posted by william endress on 08-08-2006 04:22 AM:

MOH re-test

I think that your MOH license should have to be redone every few years. When I started being a MOH at a local club I stopped hunting there because they used me every hunt. But I started traveling more to go to other hunts to keep up on my TRICKS of the trade. You can see more tricks and twists of the rules in the woods than I have ever seen at the MOH desk. Most MOH I know don't comp. hunt anymore. So I think UKC should have them hunt or observe so many casts a year to keep a current License. Not to mention when the cast finds out someone is a MOH usualy the games stop or don't start. But you sometimes have someone trying to win the hunt for thier dog, instead of the dog winning on thier own. But I do agree being a MOH that UKC needs to make some way of keeping MOH proficient on thier duties. Sorry for any spelling errors or if I hurt any feelings.

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