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Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-09-2012 10:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pjeremie
Here is a picture of the Jesse Lee X Go Yonder Betty female pup we brought home. She is a nice acting pup and isnt scared of anything.

Man just the way I like'em to nice pup!!Be intresting to see how this cross works mn might need a big set of shoe's to keep up with them think there's a reason for the go yonder name!!

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Posted by jones32 on 12-10-2012 06:42 AM:

molly

hey fellas i have a question i have a 16 month old male and i have taken him out around 7 times with an old dog and he runs pretty good when the track gets warm and trees his head off but if the track is really cold and it takes to long he comes back anther thing is when i take him by himself he just wants to hang around bout 50 yards the dog is coon crazy and if there is a hot track around close he will try and run it but has problems finishing it out he might run it 3 or 4 hundered yards and then looses it and will come back to very start and try to rework it he has been out by himself around 7 or 8 times i dont remeber having this trouble getting a pup to get out and find his own coon i know he is young but it takes anther dog to get him out there id lay money he is a warmer nosed dog any advice to what i should do get rid of him or keep working with him

Posted by hardtymes on 12-10-2012 12:59 PM:

keep Him !

Take too a farm and turn him loose let him run for a while, them take him back out huntin again see what happen!!

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Posted by jones32 on 12-10-2012 01:09 PM:

molly

thats where he was befor i got him i think he was a pet more than than a hunting dog

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-10-2012 02:06 PM:

Re: molly

quote:
Originally posted by jones32
hey fellas i have a question i have a 16 month old male and i have taken him out around 7 times with an old dog and he runs pretty good when the track gets warm and trees his head off but if the track is really cold and it takes to long he comes back anther thing is when i take him by himself he just wants to hang around bout 50 yards the dog is coon crazy and if there is a hot track around close he will try and run it but has problems finishing it out he might run it 3 or 4 hundered yards and then looses it and will come back to very start and try to rework it he has been out by himself around 7 or 8 times i dont remeber having this trouble getting a pup to get out and find his own coon i know he is young but it takes anther dog to get him out there id lay money he is a warmer nosed dog any advice to what i should do get rid of him or keep working with him

Tough one if he has been hunted alot I doubt if he will change if he has not been hunted much he may but time is not on his side.JMO

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-10-2012 02:08 PM:

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Originally posted by englishbuddy
Wake up Cowles !!!!!!!! Its monday

Been up for awhile done got everyhing fed and all the poop scooped for today now I get to go to work lucky me

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-10-2012 02:12 PM:

Re: molly

quote:
Originally posted by jones32
thats where he was befor i got him i think he was a pet more than than a hunting dog

Bout time to start them pups you two have how are they doing?? If you get a chance I would love to see a pic of them a mate to them will flat tree his butt off on a cat what are they now bout 6 mon? Not trying to be negative on the young dog but if it's been farm raised and dosen't have much hunt I doubt it will change..Might make a good pleasure dog though..

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-10-2012 02:15 PM:

Tac kinda an ol damp cool day here what are you getting into today I gotta go work a bit but shouldn't take long..

Posted by hardtymes on 12-10-2012 03:17 PM:

Hangin in the house today still raining here !!!

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Posted by jones32 on 12-10-2012 04:08 PM:

Molly

Hey rory ill get some pics put up of her I think they are around 7 months old I don't think Molly is ready yet she still has alot of pup in her and really isn't interested bout trying to run anything once in a great while she will put her nose on the ground but as for right now she is just acting like a yard dog so I think I'm going to give her some more time Chris pup acts alot gamier than mine shows alot of interest when comes to sniffing out a coon mine really doesn't care to much as for my male that's pretty much what he will be is a pleasure dog but he won't leave the owner befor me said he treed some coon around the house and he just ran loose he will get right in there with Chris old dog it's getting him out alone is the problem unless there is a hot track right there close not sure how much time I should give him befor I give him a dirt blanket if you know what I mean

Posted by juddman on 12-10-2012 06:12 PM:

J Lee/Missy pup

J Lee/Missy pup, took him hunting last night and he got to see his 1st set of coons and he is coon crazy. Still got his puppy mouth. He treed on tree a lil and treed good when we hung them up.

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Posted by rccoonhunter on 12-11-2012 04:41 AM:

J-LEE

Rory here is your new Stud Dog Ad picture I got for you while I was there!!! Hope you like

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Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-11-2012 01:10 PM:

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Originally posted by hardtymes
Hangin in the house today still raining here !!!

Man it got windy and that temp went down quick yesterday burrr they say I carry enough insulation around that it shouldn't bother me the bad part is when all this gets cold it takes longer to warm it up!!!

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-11-2012 01:15 PM:

Re: Molly

quote:
Originally posted by jones32
Hey rory ill get some pics put up of her I think they are around 7 months old I don't think Molly is ready yet she still has alot of pup in her and really isn't interested bout trying to run anything once in a great while she will put her nose on the ground but as for right now she is just acting like a yard dog so I think I'm going to give her some more time Chris pup acts alot gamier than mine shows alot of interest when comes to sniffing out a coon mine really doesn't care to much as for my male that's pretty much what he will be is a pleasure dog but he won't leave the owner befor me said he treed some coon around the house and he just ran loose he will get right in there with Chris old dog it's getting him out alone is the problem unless there is a hot track right there close not sure how much time I should give him befor I give him a dirt blanket if you know what I mean

Sounds like she needs to get her butt in gear!!! It's weird you can have alitter of pups and in my experince they will prolly be no two alike some say they can get there's all to be balance and all that crap but I've never had that kinda luck..I would say your prolly doing the right thing by waiting on her if there minds not right they wont learn crap and if you try and force it on them most of the time it does more harm then good if it's there it will come out if not maybe she will get a dirt blanket to?? And we will send you another to try!!

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-11-2012 01:19 PM:

Re: J Lee/Missy pup

quote:
Originally posted by juddman

J Lee/Missy pup, took him hunting last night and he got to see his 1st set of coons and he is coon crazy. Still got his puppy mouth. He treed on tree a lil and treed good when we hung them up.

Man he is looking good finally got that video to play on wife's phone that boy was having a time was'nt he..I heard him sqeeking on that tree alot but every once inawhile he would throw out a big bark or two sounded like i two diffrent dogs!! You know when he was here he did that sqeeking crap but when he locked on to something he sounded good lets hope that change's!! Keep me posted looks like he is bout to start for you and tell that boy he's doing a great job training him..

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-11-2012 01:22 PM:

Re: J-LEE

quote:
Originally posted by rccoonhunter

Rory here is your new Stud Dog Ad picture I got for you while I was there!!! Hope you like

Love it turned out great thanks brad sure was a pain getting that sucker to stand for that pic but it sure looks nice!!

Posted by jones32 on 12-11-2012 02:12 PM:

Molly

Oh hell rory I don't expect that that's just the chance you take when it comes to a pup it would be nice if they all turn out would be alot less headaches I'm not counting her out yet tho I think she just needs to mature alittle she is a fire ball that's for sure the few tracks she did run when she was popping them rabbits bout 3 months ago she would burn them so I think she has it in her just needs to put 2 and 2 together if she doesn't make it I would sure be interested in anther one tho I'm not giving up on j lee i sure do like how she looks and her temperament i think if she does get it in gear she will be a fast one

Posted by Rory Cowles on 12-11-2012 02:27 PM:

Re: Molly

quote:
Originally posted by jones32
Oh hell rory I don't expect that that's just the chance you take when it comes to a pup it would be nice if they all turn out would be alot less headaches I'm not counting her out yet tho I think she just needs to mature alittle she is a fire ball that's for sure the few tracks she did run when she was popping them rabbits bout 3 months ago she would burn them so I think she has it in her just needs to put 2 and 2 together if she doesn't make it I would sure be interested in anther one tho I'm not giving up on j lee i sure do like how she looks and her temperament i think if she does get it in gear she will be a fast one

She still has plenty of time way to young to be discouraged yet..Tell Chris I said hey and if you guys get a chance post me a pic or two of them..

Posted by travis gideon on 12-11-2012 02:49 PM:

Re: Re: J-LEE

quote:
Originally posted by Rory Cowles
Love it turned out great thanks brad sure was a pain getting that sucker to stand for that pic but it sure looks nice!!

I agree, that's a killer pic of him.....you better blow that one up and frame it for the livin room Rory!!!

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Posted by jones32 on 12-11-2012 06:22 PM:

molly

ill get some put up ill try and take some pics tonight she is a goodlooking little thing. took that male pup out last night there was a hard frost and he opened and burned a track around 400 yards and then gave up i have kicked him on deer and he doent want anything to do with it he seems to be doing this alot and i cant figure it out its like he looses it or gives up unless chris old dog is with him im stumped he will even come back where the track is the coldest and re run it you would think if he can start it he would be able to finish it when he warms it up unless i dont know something anybody else knows i have heard rumors that a hot track is harder to run but i cant see that being true but im not a pro lol. he wasnt worked with as a pup at all until i got him he has been out around 15 times total after he looses the track he comes back and whines around im going to turn a couple hot ones loose to him without him seeing them of course and if he still looses or gives up i think i might give up on him to. Let me know if have any ideas or if im doing anything wrong here ill try about anything he is a goodlooking dog and a hell of a tree dog but treeing dont mean anything if he cant finish a track i have tried all i know to do im willing to give a dog a fair shake and i know he is a pup but you can only waste so much time and dog food thanks rory

Posted by DJames on 12-11-2012 09:34 PM:

Re: molly

quote:
Originally posted by jones32
ill get some put up ill try and take some pics tonight she is a goodlooking little thing. took that male pup out last night there was a hard frost and he opened and burned a track around 400 yards and then gave up i have kicked him on deer and he doent want anything to do with it he seems to be doing this alot and i cant figure it out its like he looses it or gives up unless chris old dog is with him im stumped he will even come back where the track is the coldest and re run it you would think if he can start it he would be able to finish it when he warms it up unless i dont know something anybody else knows i have heard rumors that a hot track is harder to run but i cant see that being true but im not a pro lol. he wasnt worked with as a pup at all until i got him he has been out around 15 times total after he looses the track he comes back and whines around im going to turn a couple hot ones loose to him without him seeing them of course and if he still looses or gives up i think i might give up on him to. Let me know if have any ideas or if im doing anything wrong here ill try about anything he is a goodlooking dog and a hell of a tree dog but treeing dont mean anything if he cant finish a track i have tried all i know to do im willing to give a dog a fair shake and i know he is a pup but you can only waste so much time and dog food thanks rory

sounds like to me this pup has good intrest just hasnt had the fair chance yet. hard to make a coondog in fifteen hunts. the most important tool in training any young dog is patience. i believe by what i am reading here this pup will come to the front. just give him time. best of luck to ya.

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Posted by jones32 on 12-11-2012 10:44 PM:

molly

thanks im not giving up yet he is coon crazy and if there is any track around 30 yards he goes nuts he wants to just not sure if he has the brains but im going to give him awhile longer i just dont want to keep taking him with the old to much i dont want him to think he has to have company would like to get him going on his own i have always ran my pups by themselves how much should i run him with the old dog i run him bout once a week with him he does good with him and really helpd out he doesnt run his mouth just to run it he helps push thanks james apprecate it

Posted by DJames on 12-11-2012 11:45 PM:

Re: molly

quote:
Originally posted by jones32
thanks im not giving up yet he is coon crazy and if there is any track around 30 yards he goes nuts he wants to just not sure if he has the brains but im going to give him awhile longer i just dont want to keep taking him with the old to much i dont want him to think he has to have company would like to get him going on his own i have always ran my pups by themselves how much should i run him with the old dog i run him bout once a week with him he does good with him and really helpd out he doesnt run his mouth just to run it he helps push thanks james apprecate it

I like to hunt my young dogs alone too. But i do that when they are ready. I dont think yours is to that point yet. It wont hurt to hunt it with older dog every night until he gets more experience under him. When he splits treed with meat start hunting the hair off him alone. He will be a bit slow to go out alone for awhile but i think he will catch on and be a different dog. I think i would give him this season at least. I am fairly confident you will be glad you did.

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Posted by Eric Emery54 on 12-12-2012 12:21 AM:

hey man hows kill season treating ya??

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Posted by juddman on 12-12-2012 01:57 AM:

Rory

Pup still has along way to go but he is crazy over a coon and minds well around the house I've just been takeing my time with him I figure he will let me no when he's ready he still uses that puppy mouth alot but like you said he has a much better mouth then that when he uses it I've Hurd it a few times now time will tell. pup and hunter my 4 yr old have many more lessons to come still trying to figure out who's training who lol.:Justin

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