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Posted by DonBTechler on 08-16-2009 01:51 AM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
Oreilly a "right winger"??? LOL!! Amazing.

Hey Don, Explain why anyone would spend $1million dollars to hide a $10 document from anyone seeing it.

Is Common sense a lost virtue in your area?

I don't know anything about that, doesn't matter anyway. The state of Hawaii has confirmed that he was born there. Case closed. If there was a leg to stand on republicans would be challenging it in court. And yes O'reilly leans right but he's got some common sense and he's not a radical like some people.

Posted by DonBTechler on 08-16-2009 01:53 AM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
And I guess those protesting the healthcare bill are terrorists,like the Obama administration called them yesterday.

it takes someone with mental issues to call themselves a American, A gun owner, and a hunter to support and vote for a man who has never voted pro gun, tried to make using a gun to defend your life and property a felony, and sought out admitted terrorists and radical anti American Marxists as advisers and attend a racist church for 20+ years.

Obama never called them terrorists. Check out this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32431731/ns/travel

Posted by liberalcreek on 08-16-2009 02:23 PM:

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Originally posted by DonBTechler
Obama never called them terrorists. Check out this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32431731/ns/travel

His Administration called them "terrorists", "nazis", "un american" and part of a a paid off "mob". He has yet to reprimand them.

Of course this is the same Obama who called ICE agents "terrorists" for arresting and deporting illegal aliens last year during his campaign tour.

As for your link. I can show you no less than 6 Anti gun bills that will restrict gun ownership and freedoms , all proposed by Democrats, all supported by Obama. In fact he voted on an earlier version of the bills as a Illinois Senator.

Don. Show us ONE single PRO GUN bill Obama voted on as a Senator from Illinois. What makes you trust someone to completely reverse their stance and go against the way they voted for years leading up to his Presidency?

Also,Explain why Obam,a surrounded himself with radical Anti gun people in his current administration,one of which wrote speeches and books that says gunowners in America need to be outlawed and forced to turn their weapons in under the laws set by the UNITED NATIONS.

Now if Obama was so separated from this train of thought, why does he place people like this as CZARS who are over SETTING LAWS??

Your story is a bone thrown to the gunowners like yourself who support Obama. You took it and run and love to show it off like it is some sort of trophy when all it is is a bone given to divert attention and make people think he has had a change of heart. He is as radical now as he was then. Like i said earlier, had Obama had it his way most deer hunting riofles would be considered "assault rifles"and gunowners in Illinois who defend their family and homes with a handgun would be arrested and imprisoned.

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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-16-2009 02:28 PM:

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Originally posted by DonBTechler
I don't know anything about that, doesn't matter anyway. The state of Hawaii has confirmed that he was born there.

No they didnt. They said he was, but refused to show the document.

Your dodging my question.

Why does a man spend $1 MILLION DOLLARS to hide a $10 birth certificate from being shown??

While your at it explain how a "U.S. Citizen", attended college on a foreign student scholarship.

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Posted by Knox on 08-16-2009 05:47 PM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
No they didnt. They said he was, but refused to show the document.

Your dodging my question.

Why does a man spend $1 MILLION DOLLARS to hide a $10 birth certificate from being shown??

While your at it explain how a "U.S. Citizen", attended college on a foreign student scholarship.

The state has produced and verified he was born in the U.S.......I saw a copy on the news myself, state seal, newspaper piece on his birth..........................just another lie,have a little common sense, really, do you think you can become President of the United States and just refuse to show you are a citizen...?..........Heck, if there was any truth to it, the Republicans could have proven that one easy...............................

The man is a U.S. citizen, he is a Christian, he beat the odds and he is our first black President...........................................

Just get over it............McCain lost his last bid to be President...................................................Tim

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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-16-2009 06:04 PM:

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Originally posted by Knox
The state has produced and verified he was born in the U.S.......I saw a copy on the news myself, state seal, newspaper piece on his birth..........................just another lie,have a little common sense, really, do you think you can become President of the United States and just refuse to show you are a citizen...?..........Heck, if there was any truth to it, the Republicans could have proven that one easy...............................

The man is a U.S. citizen, he is a Christian, he beat the odds and he is our first black President...........................................

Just get over it............McCain lost his last bid to be President...................................................Tim

Show us the document. Why would someone spend $1 Million to not show it and then show it??

You arent making sense. Hawaii produced NOTHING but a birth announcement and a revised short form birth certificate. Not the authentic, original,long form document.

What hospital was he born in?What doctor delivered him?

Where is the proof? Your kind claim he is legit but they cant prove it.

Obama is not a Christian. Christians don't support murdering unborn children and claim that this is a Muslim country, and not a Christian country. Obama has never attended a Christian church. He attended a racist church that blended teachings from the Christian and Muslim teachings and integrated Black separation theology, a spinoff of MARXIST teachings.

Obama isnt a black man either. That is another on of your lies. He is mostly Arab and white and less than 10% "black". Why is skin color so important to the Dem supporters? Why do you put skin color over accomplishments and morals and integrity??

And lastly, I didnt vote for McCain.I voted for the bonafide black conservative American who didnt hide the truth about Obama.

Your wrong, your dishonest, and you are supporting a radical Anti American who , by his own writings, hates this country and what it is founded upon.

"JUST GET OVER IT". Admit you fell for the lies and spin and cant defend your views logically.

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-16-2009 06:07 PM:

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Originally posted by Knox
The state has produced and verified he was born in the U.S.......I saw a copy on the news myself, state seal, newspaper piece on his birth..........................just another lie,have a little common sense, really, do you think you can become President of the United States and just refuse to show you are a citizen...?..........Heck, if there was any truth to it, the Republicans could have proven that one easy...............................

The man is a U.S. citizen, he is a Christian, he beat the odds and he is our first black President...........................................

Just get over it............McCain lost his last bid to be President...................................................Tim

Now heres someone still stuck on the Dems vs Republicans. In my book we are way past that issue. What I have been seeing is a few American people finally speaking out with dislikes. I am glad to see this.

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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-16-2009 06:15 PM:

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Now heres someone still stuck on the Dems vs Republicans. In my book we are way past that issue. What I have been seeing is a few American people finally speaking out with dislikes. I am glad to see this.

Your correct Lee. Some Dem's are jumping ship and having a huge case of voter remorse. Obam's popularity and approval ratings are dropping like a rock and the more he speaks without a teleprompter the more ignorant and dishonest he makes himself look.

This isn't a DEM/Rep issue. This is freedom and liberty verses Govt control and tyranny. It appears most die-hard Obama supporters have sold their soul and country to defend the fraud we have for a President.

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Posted by treemine2 on 08-16-2009 06:31 PM:

Who cares if Obama is a citizen or not. We are in a global world now.not a secluded,racist country anymore. We demcrats care bout people and are going to do what is best for them. that si why illegal aliens are going to be allowed to vote in the next elections. take that republicans! ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Lets see who wins another election now! obama mother knew what she wa doing. she took her somn out of this oppressivecountry and raised him up to understand hwo corrupt and hatemongering thsi coutnry is. obama , like jesus, has come back to reclaim his people. and it isnt your cosnervatiove backwards dop[es. you guys need to go to college like me and learn soemthing from these brilliant professors who know so much about the world and how bad americans really are.

Posted by john nannemann on 08-16-2009 07:46 PM:

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Originally posted by treemine2
Who cares if Obama is a citizen or not. We are in a global world now.not a secluded,racist country anymore. We demcrats care bout people and are going to do what is best for them. that si why illegal aliens are going to be allowed to vote in the next elections. take that republicans! ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Lets see who wins another election now! obama mother knew what she wa doing. she took her somn out of this oppressivecountry and raised him up to understand hwo corrupt and hatemongering thsi coutnry is. obama , like jesus, has come back to reclaim his people. and it isnt your cosnervatiove backwards dop[es. you guys need to go to college like me and learn soemthing from these brilliant professors who know so much about the world and how bad americans really are.

cain't get along little doggy,
cain't even get one that's small.
cain't get along little doggy,
cain't even get one at all.

how about that last line of yours above... i always heard an old saying about "those that can't, teach". ha- ha- ha- ha- ha- ha ... notice that's one more "HA" then you had above, that means it's one more then yours, so there. nanny- nanny boo- boo.

Posted by Knox on 08-16-2009 11:08 PM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
Show us the document. Why would someone spend $1 Million to not show it and then show it??

You arent making sense. Hawaii produced NOTHING but a birth announcement and a revised short form birth certificate. Not the authentic, original,long form document.

What hospital was he born in?What doctor delivered him?

Where is the proof? Your kind claim he is legit but they cant prove it.

Obama is not a Christian. Christians don't support murdering unborn children and claim that this is a Muslim country, and not a Christian country. Obama has never attended a Christian church. He attended a racist church that blended teachings from the Christian and Muslim teachings and integrated Black separation theology, a spinoff of MARXIST teachings.

Obama isnt a black man either. That is another on of your lies. He is mostly Arab and white and less than 10% "black". Why is skin color so important to the Dem supporters? Why do you put skin color over accomplishments and morals and integrity??

And lastly, I didnt vote for McCain.I voted for the bonafide black conservative American who didnt hide the truth about Obama.

Your wrong, your dishonest, and you are supporting a radical Anti American who , by his own writings, hates this country and what it is founded upon.

"JUST GET OVER IT". Admit you fell for the lies and spin and cant defend your views logically.

Wipe, everyone on here knows you are a fake, you hide behind your fake names, you are a hate-monger.........you need some help really bad...................LOL...............

I didnt fall for anything, Obama will straighten some of Bush's mess up, but it will take his 2 terms to get things right.

Seems to me Obama isnt concerned with the debunked Birth Certificate lie, he made it to the top.........rose above the lies that Limbaugh, Beck, and others spread about him................................

He won the election, it broke your pride, .......................................

Everything you have posted above is a lie.................
You are persistent, I will give you that, but at the end of the day nothing you say can change the fact that he is our President......

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Posted by hellcat on 08-16-2009 11:20 PM:

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Originally posted by treemine2
Who cares if Obama is a citizen or not. We are in a global world now.not a secluded,racist country anymore. We demcrats care bout people and are going to do what is best for them. that si why illegal aliens are going to be allowed to vote in the next elections. take that republicans! ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Lets see who wins another election now! obama mother knew what she wa doing. she took her somn out of this oppressivecountry and raised him up to understand hwo corrupt and hatemongering thsi coutnry is. obama , like jesus, has come back to reclaim his people. and it isnt your cosnervatiove backwards dop[es. you guys need to go to college like me and learn soemthing from these brilliant professors who know so much about the world and how bad americans really are.

LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!
DO you hunt Floatbones ??????

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Posted by john nannemann on 08-16-2009 11:44 PM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek

And lastly, I didnt vote for McCain.I voted for the bonafide black conservative American who didnt hide the truth about Obama.

if your candidate was ALAN KEYES i voted for him in the 96 rep primary. dam shame he didn't get the nomination. all the black folks were calling him "uncle tom". i call him a "great american". i hope he runs again and maybe he would have a chance this time.

just curious.

Posted by hellcat on 08-17-2009 12:01 AM:

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if your candidate was ALAN KEYES i voted for him in the 96 rep primary. dam shame he didn't get the nomination. all the black folks were calling him "uncle tom". i call him a "great american". i hope he runs again and maybe he would have a chance this time.

just curious.

What ???

A Conservative vote for a person of color ????

No Way !!!

I heard on the Communist News Network <CNN> that all Conservatives hated black folks, Even Black Conservatives hated black folks.

John you must be mistaken <LOL>

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Posted by john nannemann on 08-17-2009 12:52 AM:

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What ???

A Conservative vote for a person of color ????

No Way !!!

I heard on the Communist News Network <CNN> that all Conservatives hated black folks, Even Black Conservatives hated black folks.

John you must be mistaken <LOL>

i'd vote for him again in a minute. i had went with ron paul the last primary, "hard money" guy.

Posted by hellcat on 08-17-2009 01:59 AM:

WHO SAID IT ??? WHEN ???

" A voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the this century."
Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government" -- this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy"

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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-17-2009 02:25 AM:

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if your candidate was ALAN KEYES i voted for him in the 96 rep primary. dam shame he didn't get the nomination. all the black folks were calling him "uncle tom". i call him a "great american". i hope he runs again and maybe he would have a chance this time.

just curious.

Your are correct. Keyes was/is my man and will be again if he runs.

Knox. You claim I post lies but you cannot prove anything I have posted untrue. All you can do is take the words of a proven liar and Anti American Marxist and racist(Obama). The burden of truth is upon you. You cower from debunking anything I say and blindly follow your fraud of as president from Kenya, born into this world by a Communist who denounced her country.

if Beck, Limbaugh and the other Conservative pundits and authors are so wrong why is their books and TV/Radio shows blowing the others out of the water?

Name a liberal author whose books have been on the best seller lists for months now?

There is a reason for it. Real Americans have seen the change Obama is bringing and they have enough knowledge of how the Govt works and the history of this country to know tyranny when they see it.

Cram your head back in your posterior, continue to cover your eyes, ears and common sense with more lies and deceit and pretend to have the best interest of your country at heart.

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Posted by Knox on 08-17-2009 02:35 AM:

Election.........

...........Obama / Biden==2012

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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-17-2009 02:38 AM:

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...........Obama / Biden==2012

It is pretty pathetic when you cannot even rationally defend your beliefs and opinions.

Your the problem with this country. Misinformed,.selfish voters who vote with their wallets and misconstrued ideas and to heck with the truth and what made this country great.

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Posted by Knox on 08-17-2009 02:53 AM:

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...........Obama / Biden==2012

...........Obama / Biden====2012

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Posted by DonBTechler on 08-17-2009 04:08 AM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
No they didnt. They said he was, but refused to show the document.

Your dodging my question.

Why does a man spend $1 MILLION DOLLARS to hide a $10 birth certificate from being shown??

While your at it explain how a "U.S. Citizen", attended college on a foreign student scholarship.

Do you think the republican party and all of their lawyers are a bunch of morons? That's what they would have to be if they would allow someone to be president without a valid birth certificate. I already told you O'reilly said it's bunk and he is a conservative. I bet you believe in space aliens and bigfoot too. There are rational things to debate without being totally ridiculous.

Posted by Diggerman on 08-17-2009 04:10 AM:

NOBAMA!!!!!

Posted by liberalcreek on 08-17-2009 12:32 PM:

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Originally posted by DonBTechler
Do you think the republican party and all of their lawyers are a bunch of morons? That's what they would have to be if they would allow someone to be president without a valid birth certificate. I already told you O'reilly said it's bunk and he is a conservative. I bet you believe in space aliens and bigfoot too. There are rational things to debate without being totally ridiculous.

Your dodging my question Don.

Why did Obama spend $1 Million dollars and send dozens of lawyers to Hawaii to keep from showing the birth certificate??

How did he go to college on a foreign student scholarship?

The Republicans were scared of being called racists by the Dems and the liberal media. They were/are spineless and scared of the media fallout if they pushed for the truth to be shown.

There are a few with politicians with a spine, and they are still fighting it thru the courts.

Don, What brings a man like yourself to support a man who befriended terrorists that killed Americans, attended a racist church for 20+ years that awarded terrorists for their accomplishments and preached hatred against other races and ethnic groups,voted anti gun 100% of the time,praised Marxist and Communist groups during his youth, and degraded Americans and this country in hsi books and speeches?

How does someone get to the point that they turn their back on their country, their family, and and everything this country was founded upon and vote for such a man?

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Posted by rrs on 08-17-2009 01:26 PM:

little off of the vitrolic spewing-lo.... was watching pbs last night, don't label it as liberal-progressive which at times it is... this was a dicusssion featuring Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, most likely the two wealthiest people on earth... couple of pts., both said that tax system is already too flat and the very wealthy do not pay their share and have gotten tremendous breaks-perks recently, Buffet said the 15% capital gains tax is a great boon to the very rich, he also said that if he wanted to do so he could have avoided paying any income tax the last 20 yrs... both were oppossed to a flat tax-fair tax- I'm not-lo.... also they said that wealth is way too stratified and that in the long run it hurts growth in this nation by allowing fewer opportunities for success, guess they favor some form of redistribution-lo, at least more taxes on the very wealthy... also both were against dynastic wealth and felt it hurt more than helped by again canceling opportunity... also made distinctions between using wealth for personal consumtion or for the benefit of the world in general.... also some interesting views on what allows for success especially in a corporate structure, being unique, people person, develop strategy, implement, combination of 3 the best.... also said that success is being surrounded by people who love-repect-care about you- not $$$$, buffett said he knows many that have great $$$, forbes 400, but are not liked-cared about period even though they have colleges buildings named after them etc..... not advocating supporting their thoughts, just reporting some thoughts from the two richest of the rich.... by the way Buffet still lives in the same house always has, etc...-

Posted by rrs on 08-17-2009 07:50 PM:

by the way buffet and gates said they were going to play poker that night, $500 buy in, also both said they usually do not carry big amts. of cash, but had enough to play that night....

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