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Posted by Hooch1987 on 10-28-2014 10:34 AM:

Travis I haven't had him in any hunts yet. I'm going to put a good season on him and hopefully have him in the hunts this spring. He's one of the best young dogs I've had as far as drive, independence and accuracy and pretty quick about getting it done too!! I believe he's going to be something special!!

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Posted by ericevans on 10-28-2014 12:11 PM:

I like my Jack pup, and can't say enough good about Asa and glad to call him my friend!! Jack a fine dog and reproducer !!

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Posted by travis gideon on 10-28-2014 12:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hooch1987
Travis I haven't had him in any hunts yet. I'm going to put a good season on him and hopefully have him in the hunts this spring. He's one of the best young dogs I've had as far as drive, independence and accuracy and pretty quick about getting it done too!! I believe he's going to be something special!!

You let me know if you ever think of or need to sell him, I'd like to hunt with him. I have people looking for Jack pups all the time, from babies, ready to start, to started dogs and it's hard to find to ones that are old enough to start or started, just ain't many out there for sale! Keep him crankin and again good luck!!!

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Posted by sunkist on 10-28-2014 03:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ericevans
I like my Jack pup, and can't say enough good about Asa and glad to call him my friend!! Jack a fine dog and reproducer !!

Hey Eric,

Sure like the looks of your pup, heard a lot of good things about him.........

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Posted by Mikehamm on 10-28-2014 09:38 PM:

I wanna say I'm sry if I sound like I was downing Asa or jack??

But I would like to know what fool come up with such a crazy thing as foundation stock????

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Posted by travis gideon on 10-28-2014 11:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mikehamm
I wanna say I'm sry if I sound like I was downing Asa or jack??

But I would like to know what fool come up with such a crazy thing as foundation stock????

Founders of breeds of all animals that are selectively bred for a purpose or desired traits, I guess, not sure what fool it was. Webster has a definition. Most that breed anything like certain traits in the animal they prefer and some are more superior then others in reproducing those certain traits that are desired....genetics. You can see it in all animals bred for things if they have pedigree's.

Posted by Mikehamm on 10-29-2014 01:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by travis gideon
Founders of breeds of all animals that are selectively bred for a purpose or desired traits, I guess, not sure what fool it was. Webster has a definition. Most that breed anything like certain traits in the animal they prefer and some are more superior then others in reproducing those certain traits that are desired....genetics. You can see it in all animals bred for things if they have pedigree's.

i can understand that!!! what are you all breeding jack for then??? what genetics are you trying to pass down?? i would just like to know what your goal is? you do have a goal dont ya travis

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Posted by travis gideon on 10-29-2014 02:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mikehamm
i can understand that!!! what are you all breeding jack for then??? what genetics are you trying to pass down?? i would just like to know what your goal is? you do have a goal dont ya travis

We all that are hunting these old hounds have a goal, surely?!?! I was introduced to these odd colored old English dogs 19-20 years ago and was impressed. Mr. Jim Chaffins (God bless his sole) blew me away with their ability to tree coon whether it be by land, water or air fascinated me. So fast, with pressure tree ability and a 1 bark locate was awesome! I began to learn from him and how he came to be introduced to this breed and line of dog. As I learned I wanted one and the first I got was awesome as well. After that I became involved with everyone he knew and was involved with in this line and breed. I luckely ran into a bunch of super people. From there it just progressed....a bunch of good people with a bunch of good dogs that have progressed into the same line that have continued to produce winners at a high level and Jack is one of those that is ALIVE that continues to reproduce what I've loved to hunt. My goal is to pack as good of a dog as I can, sometimes you get them sometimes you don't but all I can do is try and all I can do is try to do it with the line of dogs that have impressed me thus far....Jack is a MAJOR part of what I think is the future of what I like!

Posted by Longwoods Kennel on 10-29-2014 11:01 AM:

Asa give me a call!!

Posted by bob d on 10-29-2014 02:34 PM:

ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anybody looking for a BROKE jack dog 4yr old straight,accurate does it all james hoover 574-594-9466 off jack and hardtime lighting maggie lot of reproducing genes behind him

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Posted by Longwoods Kennel on 10-29-2014 03:03 PM:

Bob, when is a good time to call you about your JACK dog?

Posted by sunkist on 10-29-2014 10:27 PM:

Bob

Your box is full........ Clean out your old mail.......

Posted by Mikehamm on 10-30-2014 04:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by travis gideon
We all that are hunting these old hounds have a goal, surely?!?! I was introduced to these odd colored old English dogs 19-20 years ago and was impressed. Mr. Jim Chaffins (God bless his sole) blew me away with their ability to tree coon whether it be by land, water or air fascinated me. So fast, with pressure tree ability and a 1 bark locate was awesome! I began to learn from him and how he came to be introduced to this breed and line of dog. As I learned I wanted one and the first I got was awesome as well. After that I became involved with everyone he knew and was involved with in this line and breed. I luckely ran into a bunch of super people. From there it just progressed....a bunch of good people with a bunch of good dogs that have progressed into the same line that have continued to produce winners at a high level and Jack is one of those that is ALIVE that continues to reproduce what I've loved to hunt. My goal is to pack as good of a dog as I can, sometimes you get them sometimes you don't but all I can do is try and all I can do is try to do it with the line of dogs that have impressed me thus far....Jack is a MAJOR part of what I think is the future of what I like!

do you still hunt jack an would u take me out one night with him??? i would like to see how his coon treeing abillity is an maybe that will give me better hope to buy another jack pup

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Posted by Asa Briggs on 10-30-2014 05:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mikehamm
do you still hunt jack an would u take me out one night with him??? i would like to see how his coon treeing abillity is an maybe that will give me better hope to buy another jack pup

When Jack comes back to Michigan you are more than welcome to come for a hunt anytime, he will be back here next spring or you can hunt with him this weekend in Missouri. Personally I don't think he has much to prove in the woods or stud pen anymore, he has been hunted all over the country. Jack is just in Kentucky for breeding because of the central location. I've got a couple of dogs off him that you can hunt with anytime also. I don't get on the internet much so the best way to set up a hunt is to call me!!!

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 10-30-2014 05:27 PM:

Mike, I don't know what par of Illinois your from but I live in Central Ohio and would gladly show you my Ike dog any time. He is off Jack and he is a special dog.

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Posted by Brandon Coselman on 10-30-2014 06:39 PM:

Jealously is a horrible thing... And this sport of coon hunting is prolly about as bad as it gets in the jealousy department!!!

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Posted by Asa Briggs on 10-30-2014 06:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mikehamm
do you still hunt jack an would u take me out one night with him??? i would like to see how his coon treeing abillity is an maybe that will give me better hope to buy another jack pup

What female was your pup off from? Just curious if any of the others turned out or just the one you had.

Posted by pjeremie on 10-30-2014 10:50 PM:

Finally got me a Jack female pup and I am happy as can be.

A good day to learn how to get through the woods.

Posted by bob d on 10-31-2014 03:08 PM:

jack x maggie dog

old mail is gone along with new mail,sorry start over

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Posted by Mikehamm on 11-01-2014 10:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Asa Briggs
What female was your pup off from? Just curious if any of the others turned out or just the one you had.

rocky creek lizard Mr briggs

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Posted by Kody on 11-02-2014 05:08 PM:

Jack

Here what I saw hunted with him in Michigan Iowa Missouri

Looked the same goes like hell trees them rickies does he walk on water no of course not but I know anybody would be proud to be hauling him around callin em their own

I saw jack get hauled 12 hrs pulled outta the box at some of my roughest country cut loose was struck and treed at 900 in bout 3 min came on with a big ole screaming locate and hammered till we got there had the coon I will never forget it

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Posted by Asa Briggs on 11-04-2014 07:03 PM:

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Posted by Asa Briggs on 11-04-2014 07:04 PM:

Re: Fellas I can't

quote:
Originally posted by English 101
help but reply to this thread. I am an old Dog! But my thoughts are these. As the torch.. and Title of "Foundation Stock" of hounds gets passed on from Generation to Generation the names are going to change...its certain to happen. As Rory Said Earlier probably not a very high percentage of people actually know a lot of accurate information about the hounds that have been called foundation stock of the English breed. If the truth be told a lot of the information has come to us from a source, from another source, from another source, and so on, and so on. You can only acquire accurate information on a line of dogs from hunting them for many.. many years, and through all the highs and lows. Having said that keep in mind that for a lot of these foundation hounds of yesteryear that are talked about today, being a coon dog that actually treed live coons seven nights a week was a priority, and a necessity. And yes sometimes a little off game was included in that fun! HA. A lot of the time those dogs also had to do their job in areas where coon populations were thin, and if the hounds could not do that, they probably did not live very long. Buy the same token in yesteryear there was more patience to let a hound develop than there is today, partly because of genetics, partly because of finances, but mostly because the world was a much bigger place. It was not as easy to get a bloodline from one part of the country to another. I remember a time when the internet did not exist and you actually wrote letters to a breeder asking about their dogs. (wow I am old!) If you ask any good breeder what their number one concern is for their litters is , the answer will be.. that the pups will not get into hands that will give them chance to make it. Also in yesteryear..Competition hunting was usually secondary to having an all around start to finish coon dog. Remember Also as far as comp hunts go, in yester year we are probably talking about 3 hour nite hunts...how many people remember those, and how many dogs today could survive those? So in closing I say this..over the years many many things have changed, and some for the better.. communication methods, ability to get bloodlines from point "A" to "B". Because of this we have more opportunities than ever with the breeding and bloodlines that are available today.However there are a couple things that should not change..First Enjoy the opportunities we have in hounds today! Hounds are not machines, most are like kids, if they are handled properly, they will become great adults. Second Don't Bash a breeder because he has found success with a line of dogs, or a cross that has worked for him. Understand this the success they have had with their dogs and with their willingness to share that blood, more than likely it could end up helping you better your kennel, or improve your success. However If you try a cross on your female from one of these studs, or you buy a pup or two from a breeders line, and they don't work out, because they are not your style of hunting dog, or have the looks you like. DO the English Breed a Favor don't bash the stud dog, or the breeder, Because they are both trying to do the same thing, give us an opportunity to maybe own and hunt something that may help our own programs and maybe.. just maybe.. this great sport we call coon hunting will keep moving forward!
I for one am happy for Asa & Jack, and all the other breeders and their lines that have done well with their dogs and breeding programs, because very. very few people actually know how many throw away dollars, and how many personal sacrifices are involved in getting a line of dogs a chance to be successful as well as keeping it successful over the long haul! To all of you my hats off to you! Keep up the Good work!!

Thanks Mike!!

Posted by sunkist on 11-05-2014 04:15 PM:

Asa

Had a great time this past weekend with you guys coming down, Ole Jack still has it after being laid up for a yr, and comes firing out the gate treeing coons..... Just like riding a bike I guess, hopefully Travis will get some pictures up soon...... Let me know when Zoey starts bleeding

Posted by travis gideon on 11-06-2014 12:21 AM:

Re: Asa

quote:
Originally posted by sunkist
Had a great time this past weekend with you guys coming down, Ole Jack still has it after being laid up for a yr, and comes firing out the gate treeing coons..... Just like riding a bike I guess, hopefully Travis will get some pictures up soon...... Let me know when Zoey starts bleeding

Man was Jack ever impressive....WOW!!! He sure laid it on, it's hard to believe how he operated (not even considering his shape)!!! I don't see how you resist to continue hunting him Ace

What a hound!!!!!!

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