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Posted by mrbluedog on 03-22-2009 02:17 PM:

Mule Barn you have done showed me several times you know nothing that you try to talk about and please do not get on this thread and run your mouth like you have on all the other threads you jump on this is a thread for good friends who enjoy the same line of hounds.Wayne hope you had a good trip, and like Ken said we know you can takeit but it does not change the fact that you need a dog from Ken or Roy or change your signiture lol

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Posted by Mule Barn on 03-22-2009 02:34 PM:

No, Diamond Jim was not "basically" a Vaughn dog.

Just because he has some Vaughn blood in him, or goes back to some vaughn dogs, doesnt make him Vaughn bred.

Im not taking anything away from Diamond Jim, but I thought this was a vaughn thread, not smokey river.

There are tons of dogs that go back on Vaughn dogs, as a matter of fact a big percentage of blueticks do, so are you gonna call everything out there "Vaughn" bred??

I myself am a little of a vaughn fancier, and have enjoyed this thread, but I believe I`ll have to part ways here, cause I wont refer to Diamond Jim as a Vaughn bred dog, just because he had some vaughn blood. Buzz Anderson is more responsible for him than anybody.

I have been breeding my own stock of hounds for over thirty years, and they have evolved from Vaughn bred hounds, that I bought straight from elbert vaughn, but do I call them Vaughn bred, hell no, I bred them.

And to the guy that named his female "Vaughns" so and so, that is wrong and you know it, that female is no closer to actual Vaughn dogs than anybody elses, quit using the mans name to sell puppies to people who dont know any better.

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Posted by Mule Barn on 03-22-2009 02:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mrbluedog
Mule Barn you have done showed me several times you know nothing that you try to talk about and please do not get on this thread and run your mouth like you have on all the other threads you jump on this is a thread for good friends who enjoy the same line of hounds.Wayne hope you had a good trip, and like Ken said we know you can takeit but it does not change the fact that you need a dog from Ken or Roy or change your signiture lol

Im glad you are one of those rocket scientists that can evaluate intellegence over the internet.

I am not.

But I am just smart enough to know that Diamond Jim is not what anybody that I know of calls a vaughn bred dog.

And if you would like to argue that, type away and show your ignorance.

Your post was as out of place as your crude kennel name.

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Posted by Mule Barn on 03-22-2009 02:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by glynnsdawgs63
Yes, I have a lot of old Smokey River blood and yes indeed they originated from Vauhn blood.That is why they cross back on Vaughn blood so well.Also my Star female is really showing pups due April !4

I dont believe I asked you anything abut your dogs, but, If you have smokey river dogs they are just that, smokey river dogs.

And by the way, Smokey River crosses well on about a bunch of lines of hounds. It aint just Vaughn

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Posted by mrbluedog on 03-22-2009 03:21 PM:

Good then don't come back on it every time you post it is to argue and if you don't like my kennel name don't read it. Yes I can tell the intellegence of or lack of from some one on here especially when they ruin threads as you do.If your so proud of what you raise and breed use your real name mine is right there in my signature and here is my number feel free to call any time 864-353-8739. I have a pretty good Idea who you are already.No one stated that smokey river didn't cross good on all they just made the statement they crosss good back on Vaughn blood and Mr. Ken Adkins has as much Vaughn stacked up as anyone along with the Bragg blood and I would say elbert Vaughn and Kelly Bragg would both be proud how he has carried it on for all these years.

Posted by mrbluedog on 03-22-2009 03:27 PM:

One other thing how can a dog be smokey river bred when there is not a smokey river dog behind him?

Posted by joseph mcdonald on 03-22-2009 03:29 PM:

Thank You Troy and I was wondering the same thing!!

Posted by Wayne Valentino on 03-22-2009 04:07 PM:

Troy

It's like casting pearls before swine...... Some guys don't know don't care to know or think they know but are mis-informed.. Don't waste the time typing....

No Ken I didn't talk to the Team Sandfork Crew, Had I known Ken was to show up I would have asked for him....

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Posted by arkiedog on 03-22-2009 05:31 PM:

to whom it may concern

this is diamond jim's fourth generation

WELSHS BLUE WARRIOR
VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN
VAUGHN'S ARK. BLUE
VAUGHN'S BLUE NELL
BLUE PILOTS FLOR DE CURLEY
VAUGHN'S BLUE FLY
GLENVILLES ROWDY
VAUGHN'S BELL
ANDREWS BLUE RANDY (VAUGHN'S BLUE RATTLER X VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN)
ANDREWS BLUE QUEEN (VAUGHN'S BLUE BUGLE X VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN)
VAUGHN'S BLUE WARRIOR
VAUGHN'S BLUE SANDRA
LA ARK BLUE WARRIOR (WESHS BLUE WARRIOR X VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN)
LOUISIANA FLY (VAUGHN'S ARK BLUE X VAUGHN'S BLUE NELL)
VAUGHN'S CURLY
VAUGHN'S BLUE JITTERBUG

not fueling any argument, just giving some friendly information to try and end it.

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Posted by glynnsdawgs63 on 03-22-2009 05:34 PM:

Thanks that is what I was trying to say

Posted by Kenbev on 03-22-2009 06:42 PM:

This thread

Fellows this had been a good thread and several people have joined in and have enjoyed it. BUT some people will not leave good enough alone.... I don't claim to know everything but I have read a pedigree or two along the way...

Posted by Kenbev on 03-22-2009 06:45 PM:

Wayne,

I didn't know you were going to Ashland or I would have had Ken to look you up..... I sent a female up to him that he raised. She is going on two years old....

Posted by Wayne Valentino on 03-22-2009 09:07 PM:

Ken

I beat it around all week then decided to go visit with guys I haven't seen in a long time plus meet some new guys... It was nice to see everyone having a good time...

Posted by Kenbev on 03-22-2009 09:16 PM:

Wayne

I am glad you went. I am planning to go the Bluetick Reunion next month in NC. I don't make many trips.

Posted by texhog on 03-22-2009 11:13 PM:

Re: to whom it may concern

quote:
Originally posted by arkiedog
this is diamond jim's fourth generation

WELSHS BLUE WARRIOR
VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN
VAUGHN'S ARK. BLUE
VAUGHN'S BLUE NELL
BLUE PILOTS FLOR DE CURLEY
VAUGHN'S BLUE FLY
GLENVILLES ROWDY
VAUGHN'S BELL
ANDREWS BLUE RANDY (VAUGHN'S BLUE RATTLER X VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN)
ANDREWS BLUE QUEEN (VAUGHN'S BLUE BUGLE X VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN)
VAUGHN'S BLUE WARRIOR
VAUGHN'S BLUE SANDRA
LA ARK BLUE WARRIOR (WESHS BLUE WARRIOR X VAUGHN'S BLUE QUEEN)
LOUISIANA FLY (VAUGHN'S ARK BLUE X VAUGHN'S BLUE NELL)
VAUGHN'S CURLY
VAUGHN'S BLUE JITTERBUG

not fueling any argument, just giving some friendly information to try and end it.

That is some pretty heavy Vaughn blood! Well mule barn, I understand what you are saying about most blue dogs do trace back to Vaughn, but after seeing this 4th generation I would have to say Vaughn bred. One thing about Smokey River Kennel and Mr. Warren. Smokey River Kennels was not a particular strain of bluetick. Warren would buy a good coondog and stud him out if he would work no matter what the breeding and Warren used many a Vaughn bred dog over the years. By the way, I heard that Diamond Jim was one heck of a coondog.

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Posted by Mule Barn on 03-23-2009 02:14 AM:

Re: Re: to whom it may concern

quote:
Originally posted by texhog
One thing about Smokey River Kennel and Mr. Warren. Smokey River Kennels was not a particular strain of bluetick. Warren would buy a good coondog and stud him out if he would work no matter what the breeding and Warren used many a Vaughn bred dog over the years. By the way, I heard that Diamond Jim was one heck of a coondog.

Very well put!!

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Posted by arkiedog on 03-23-2009 02:46 AM:

Re: Re: to whom it may concern

quote:
Originally posted by texhog
That is some pretty heavy Vaughn blood! Well mule barn, I understand what you are saying about most blue dogs do trace back to Vaughn, but after seeing this 4th generation I would have to say Vaughn bred. One thing about Smokey River Kennel and Mr. Warren. Smokey River Kennels was not a particular strain of bluetick. Warren would buy a good coondog and stud him out if he would work no matter what the breeding and Warren used many a Vaughn bred dog over the years. By the way, I heard that Diamond Jim was one heck of a coondog.

My dad has always said the same thing. I guess you could say they were Smokey River "hounds" rather than what you would call a "bloodline" that carries several generations of a particular strain. Nevertheless, Warren supplied the country with many fantastic hounds for decades. No one can argue that.

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Posted by Kenbev on 03-23-2009 06:56 PM:

Shady Lady

This is another picture of my Shady Lady female. Her pedigree is listed on page 11 of this thread.... She is all Hound....

(Ken: That is straw in her hair.)

Posted by Kenbev on 03-23-2009 07:13 PM:

Adkins Blue Dog Henry V

......................................................Campbells Blue Bawler
......................................Adkins Blue Dog Henry
.......................................................Marlers T. C. Blue Judy
........................Adkins Blue Dog Lead
.......................................................Gauley River Farrell
......................................Trumans Blue Dog Rhoda
.......................................................Gauley River Pooch
...............Adkins Blue Dog Blue Henry III
.......................................................Vaughns Blue Buck II
......................................Vaughns Blue Buck III
.......................................................Vaughns Blue Nellie
.......................Adkins Blue Dog Betsy
.......................................................Vaughns Blue Mack III
.....................................Mack III'S Blue Lou
.......................................................Blue Mae
.......Adkins Blue Dog Blue Henry IV
.......................................................Campbells Blue Bawler
......................................Adkins Blue Dog Henry
.......................................................Marlers T.C. Judy
......................Adkins Blue Dog Lead
.......................................................Gauley River Farrell
......................................Trumans Blue Dog Rhoda
.......................................................Gauley River Pooch
...............Adkins Blue Dog Sadie
.......................................................GNC Smokey River Blue Spot
...............................................Nite Ch Combs Smokey River Jack
.......................................................Hammonds Blue Tina
..................................Davis Tree Talking Casey
.......................................................GNC Morris Blue River Buddy
..............................................Nite Ch Burdicks Blue Kate
.......................................................Findley Lake Blue Fly
....................Plumbleys Misty Blue
.......................................................GNC Smokey River Diamond Jim
.............................................Gr Nite Ch Koosers Diamomd Dandy
.......................................................Blue Moon Sassy
.................................Nite Ch Fogus Mighty Blue Mags
.......................................................Buffalo Creek Blue Smoke
.............................................Koosers Fly
.......................................................MarMack Blue Mandy
..Adkins Blue Dog Blue Henry V
......................................................Campbells Blue Bawler
......................................Adkins Blue Dog Henry
.......................................................Marlers T. C. Blue Judy
........................Adkins Blue Dog Lead
.......................................................Gauley River Farrell
......................................Trumans Blue Dog Rhoda
.......................................................Gauley River Pooch
...............Adkins Blue Dog Blue Henry III
.......................................................Vaughns Blue Buck II
......................................Vaughns Blue Buck III
.......................................................Vaughns Blue Nellie
.......................Adkins Blue Dog Betsy
.......................................................Vaughns Blue Mack III
.....................................Mack III'S Blue Lou
.......................................................Blue Mae
.....Adkins Blue Dog Rhoda II
......................................................Gr Nite Ch Sizemores Blue Scout
.....................................Gr Nite Ch Emmons Brush Creek Blue
.......................................................Nite Ch Brush Creek Bess
.......................Gauley River Odd
.......................................................Gauley River Farrell
.....................................Cottle Creek Blue Nell
.......................................................Gauley River Pooch
...............Bellwoods Little Nancy Ann
.......................................................Gauley River Odd
.....................................Spencers Blue
.......................................................Scotts Mt. Nosey
.......................Gwinns Star
........................................................Perrymans Blue Arkie II
......................................Braggs Blue Queenie
........................................................Gr Ch Sherrells Blue YoYo

Posted by Kenbev on 03-24-2009 09:10 PM:

Vaughns Blue Dog Billy II

.......................................................................................................Vaughns Blue Little Mack
................................................................................Vaughns Blue Bob
.......................................................................................................Vaughns Lucky Lady
..........................................................Vaughns Carolina Blue Bubba
.......................................................................................................Vaughns Blue Gizmo
................................................................................Vaughns Blue Roxie
.......................................................................................................Vaughns Blue Polly II
........................................Vaughns Blue Dog Billy
.......................................................................................................Vaughns Blue Jim
................................................................................Vaughns Miners Blue Buck
.......................................................................................................Vaughns Blue Music
..........................................................Vaughns Misty Blue Belle
.......................................................................................................Vaughns Blue Texas Buck
................................................................................Vaughns Blue Josie
.......................................................................................................Linseys Blue Ann

Vaughns Blue Dog Billy II

.............................................................................................................................Minisink Valley Andy
....................................................................................................Nieswands Blue Chioce
.............................................................................................................................Nieswands Blue Blue II
...................................................................Beaver Run Mistys Mack
.............................................................................................................................Arkansas Rattler
...................................................................................................Beaver Run Blue Misty II
.............................................................................................................................Beaver Run Blue Misty
......................................Gibsons Buffalo Crk Smoke IV
.............................................................................................................................Minisink Valley Spot
....................................................................................................Bear Swamp Blu Patch I
.............................................................................................................................Nieswands Blue Nell
.................................................................Coppages Deep Run Blue Baldi
.............................................................................................................................Nieswands Blue Choice
....................................................................................................Beaver Run Blue Misty III
...........................................................................................................................Beaver Run Blue Misty II
...................Buffalo Creek Blue Sis Queen
.............................................................................................................................Braggs WV Blue IV
.................................................................................................. Braggs WV Blue V
.............................................................................................................................Cales Cindy
...............................................................Hillbilly Blue Banner
...................................................................................................................Bramlettes Bayou Blue Dodger
..................................................................................................Braggs Blue Judy Kenova
...................................................................................................................Braggs Miss West Virginia
......................................Gibsons Sissy
.............................................................................................................................Mosers Blue Ace
..................................................................................................Flins Blue Hawk
.............................................................................................................................Clouses Blue Winnie
..............................................................Gibsons Molly II
.............................................................................................................................Sebastians Little Blue
..................................................................................................Pauleys Blue Sue
.............................................................................................................................Russells Blue Sally

Posted by arkiedog on 03-25-2009 05:14 AM:

Billy II & Shady Lady

Ken, have you ever crossed Billy II on Shady Lady? I want a pup if you ever do make that cross. I can't find that kind of breeding anywhere else. I love the looks of those hounds. They both look like they've got a little age on them, I would just like to see a cross like that made, before it's too late.

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Posted by texhog on 03-25-2009 09:02 AM:

Its a shame that Charles Lindsay's health didnt allow him to really develope the hounds that he got from Vaughn Kennells. Many say that Charles got the better of the bunch by just a little bit, but just didnt get to hunt and promote like Jess did. What I think really helped Jess was that he was really committed to using the Perryman brothers with the Arkie blood and the result from those breedings produced a little more compitition style hound such as Drive, speed, little more independence starts to pop up in that same era too. I know Jess liked a lot of "hunt" in a dog and didnt want to see him again untill he had a coon treed. I have heard many a people say that Rogers Little Mack was well on his way to winning the world hunt when he got an eye pulled out during a cast and had to withdraw him. Dad really liked Jess's Little Mack and dad really liked Arkie Dooley. He said Dooley was a "COONDOG". Dooley was a littermate to Perryman's Blue John. They were out of Tahsuda's Arkie and had my dads old Edisto River Blue Sail dog on back a gen or 2. Sail was out of Earl HIlls Arkansas Blue whom my dad said was a "COONDOG" second to none!. WE bought a 8 month old extremely shy pup from Jess that someone had brought back for several reasons. WE named him "Tarbaby" and is one of my all time favorite hounds. He ran thru the hunts winning easily and I was handling him in a Nt Ch cast against Luther Sharp who had jus purchased I very nice hi-dollar english. I was nervous as rooster at a coyote picnic. Well I one the cast and the hunt it was very close. I got the cast win against Luther and it was by about 25 or 50 points. Then Luther tried to buy Tarbaby for something $5000. I remember telling daddy he should NOT sell Tarbaby! I put my foot down!LOL Those were some good memories! I'll follow this strain of dogs till I die! I might add something new here or there but it will always be my base. I have rattled on long enough!
Kelly Littlejohn

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Posted by Blueallmylife on 03-25-2009 01:35 PM:

Thread

This has been such an enjoyable thread to read. The amount of info that has come out of it has been tremendous, especially for those of us who fancy the Vaughn bloodlines. Kelly that was some great info thanks to all who have contributed positivly!! Thanks Ken for starting this thread!

Kelly Witt

Posted by Kenbev on 03-25-2009 01:36 PM:

Texhog and arkiedog

texhog,
Thanks for your bit of histroy and coments...Join in here anytime...

arkiedog,
We crossed Billy II on Shady Lady last fall. She had some problems and we only raised one male pup. We may make the cross again sometime. We will probably wait to see how this pup does.

Posted by arkiedog on 03-26-2009 08:17 AM:

Re: Texhog and arkiedog

quote:
Originally posted by Kenbev
texhog,
Thanks for your bit of histroy and coments...Join in here anytime...

arkiedog,
We crossed Billy II on Shady Lady last fall. She had some problems and we only raised one male pup. We may make the cross again sometime. We will probably wait to see how this pup does.

How old is Billy II and Lady? Can't wait to see what that cross produces. I had a Lindsay bred female I got from Jess not long before he passed away. She was extremely fast on track and had a super long bawl.

--------------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE MACK II
---------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE LITTLE MACK
--------------------'PR'VAUGHN'SBLUE SUSIE II
----------CH'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE BOB
--------------------CHNITECH'PR'VAUGHN'S BL. TEXAS BUCK
---------------'PR'VAUGHN'S LUCKY LADY
--------------------'PR'BLUE RIDGE CANDY
-----'PR'PERRYMAN'S BLUE JUNE
--------------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE LITTLE MACK
---------------GRCH'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE GIZMO
--------------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE NELL
----------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE ROXIE
--------------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE MACK II
---------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE POLLY II
--------------------'PR'VAUGHN'S BLUE POLLY

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