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Posted by larry grooms on 09-27-2007 05:39 PM:

grnitech 'pr' snake sneaky pete

Just wondering does anyone know of him heard he was finley river bred.

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Posted by Jamie Thurman on 09-27-2007 05:42 PM:

DUAL GRAND IRON MOUNTAIN CHIZEL IS FINLEY RIVER BREED ON BOTTOM SIDE

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Posted by on 09-27-2007 09:19 PM:

Chris Halverson and I just bred our Sky female out of Gr Nt' Walt'z Roadblock ( Double Bozo, Nailor) and Gr Nt' Ristau's Coon Creek Jenny ( Wild Casey x Creek Ridge Sky & full sister to Casey) to Chris' Torque dog off of Gr Nt' Finley River Boomer and Chris' Dual Gr Taz female. These two should complement each other very well and I'm excited about the cross.
I've been hunting with Chris and his young male, Cam, who is off of Torque. He is nice. I've seen him tree ahead of his mama, Sable, and Sky. Neither of those two females are slouches.
Torque and Cam both have huge mouths and are good lookers!!
I could go on and on why I like this cross but I'll wait until pups are born.
Not sure if we consider them Finley River Dogs but they should definately be considered "Finley River Style of Dogs". Balanced trail and tree hounds.


Posted by Coonhusker on 09-28-2007 01:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by brogy
My favorite thread on this board! Lets bring it back to the top!


Boy........I sure did'nt know that this thread I started would get this much attention but I'm glad it has. There's alot of useful information on it, keep it coming everyone!

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Posted by RH. on 09-28-2007 03:50 AM:

should be good ones Brogy..thats the kind of breeding I like Finley River and Clover together.


Posted by on 09-28-2007 03:53 AM:

How's your Card x Honey pup doing?


Posted by RH. on 09-28-2007 11:04 PM:

Well.shes huge.loud and healthy lol..Shes been hitting some good tracks when i take her out,she wont go with the other dog so shes pretty independent.Im having trouble gettin her to finish her tracks and get out and hunt deep but if I can solve those problems I think she will be alright..If shes anything like her parents she should turn into a HARD hunter.


Posted by Robert Starke on 10-19-2007 08:04 AM:

Terry Willford

I will try to get you a picture. He is put together well. Fast on track, loud mouth, hard tree dog. Good Hunting, Robert


Posted by Robert Starke on 10-19-2007 08:05 AM:

BTT


Posted by NAILOR on 10-19-2007 07:09 PM:

Does anyone know how to get a hold of William (Cody) Hanson? I bought a nice female from him a couple years ago and was looking to talk to him about getting another one.

If you have a phone # for him you can email it to me at kyle@cornbeltkennels.com Thanks.

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Posted by RH. on 10-19-2007 11:26 PM:

He use to have a website but can't find it anymore.I also have a female out of his Gem III dog...How is yours bred?


Posted by on 11-24-2007 08:17 PM:

This litter is due within a week, they might interest some of you Finley River fans. Sire and Dam are both very balanced hounds.

................................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Crystal Creek's Kid
.......................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Finley River Nite Hawk
................................Gr Ch PR Finley River Crickett
..............Gr Nt Ch PR Finley River Boomer
................................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Blue Mtn Finley River Lonnie
.......................PR Baremore's Finley River Trickle
................................PR Cross Creek Maggie
sire: Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Toph's Tazmanian Torque
................................Gr Ch PR Southern Cross Briar
......................Gr Ch PR Southern Cross Doogie
................................PR Southern Cross Daisy
..............Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Toph's Twilight Treeing Taz
................................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Gold Dust Hammering Hank
......................Ch PR Carolina Solid Gold
................................Ch PR Emerson's Treeslamming Sas

................................GrNtCh PR Owen's Hardwood Bozo
......................Gr Ch Gr Nt Ch PR Stone Mountain Steel
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Waltz' Sis
..............Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Waltz' Roadblock
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Nocturnal Nailor
......................Gr Nt Ch PR Waltz' Nite Train
................................Gr Ch Gr Nt Ch PR Waltz' Hurricane Jane
dam: PR Toph's Wild Sky
................................Gr Nt Ch Ch Logan's Wild Clover
......................Gr Nt Ch PR Wessel's Wild Casey
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Logan's Wild Jeanie
..............Gr Nt Ch PR Ristau's Coon Creek Jenny
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Creek Ridge Sky
......................Nt Ch PR Wessel's Wild Julie
................................Nt Ch PR Logan's Wild Wendy

I'll post an ad in the TW Classifieds when the pups are born.


Posted by wkfii on 11-27-2007 10:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by brogy
This litter is due within a week, they might interest some of you Finley River fans. Sire and Dam are both very balanced hounds.

................................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Crystal Creek's Kid
.......................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Finley River Nite Hawk
................................Gr Ch PR Finley River Crickett
..............Gr Nt Ch PR Finley River Boomer
................................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Blue Mtn Finley River Lonnie
.......................PR Baremore's Finley River Trickle
................................PR Cross Creek Maggie
sire: Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Toph's Tazmanian Torque
................................Gr Ch PR Southern Cross Briar
......................Gr Ch PR Southern Cross Doogie
................................PR Southern Cross Daisy
..............Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Toph's Twilight Treeing Taz
................................Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Gold Dust Hammering Hank
......................Ch PR Carolina Solid Gold
................................Ch PR Emerson's Treeslamming Sas

................................GrNtCh PR Owen's Hardwood Bozo
......................Gr Ch Gr Nt Ch PR Stone Mountain Steel
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Waltz' Sis
..............Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch PR Waltz' Roadblock
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Nocturnal Nailor
......................Gr Nt Ch PR Waltz' Nite Train
................................Gr Ch Gr Nt Ch PR Waltz' Hurricane Jane
dam: PR Toph's Wild Sky
................................Gr Nt Ch Ch Logan's Wild Clover
......................Gr Nt Ch PR Wessel's Wild Casey
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Logan's Wild Jeanie
..............Gr Nt Ch PR Ristau's Coon Creek Jenny
................................Gr Nt Ch PR Creek Ridge Sky
......................Nt Ch PR Wessel's Wild Julie
................................Nt Ch PR Logan's Wild Wendy

I'll post an ad in the TW Classifieds when the pups are born.



Pictures? The only thing that bothers me is that Nailor line. I have two in kennel with it. One is a competent hound. One is not. I just don't like the lack of tracking ability that Nailor connotes.

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Posted by on 11-27-2007 11:19 PM:

I haven't had enough experience with "Nailor" dogs to even have an opinion on them. I kinda assume its like "Lipper" dogs, although both Lipper and Nailor were examples of strong reproducers they had so many different types of females being bred to them that it is hard to come to a conclusion as to what traits were dominant from the sire as opposed to the dozens or hundreds of poor females that were bred to them.
Chris and I are aware that the shot of Nailor in there will scare away the "Finley River" purests, to some extent it scared Chris away which allowed me to acquire half interest in Sky. Chris tends to only feed dogs whose pedigree excludes Nailor, Sackett Jr, Stylish Harry, Rat Attack, and etc... Sky is the exception. She is a "bonafide coondog" and could eat feed at almost anyones house. We can provide lots of references on Sky from dedicated hunters that have been in the winner's circle. Sky has a whole pile of win slips in UKC with a bunch of 2nds and a few 3rds & etc. We just haven't been able to get that first place on her.
Sky's mother is one of the best hounds I've ever been to the timber with and she is a reproducer although most her offspring have never seen a nitehunt. I have hunted with 6 out of her 10 or so living offspring out of 3 different litters and they are all coondogs of some caliber and 2 for sure were started by the worst dog trainers in the country. There are a bunch of grandpups to old Jenny that are half cur running around the area and most can't be bought from the hidehunters who feed them, that should say something about the reproducing ability in these dogs. From Logan's Julie, Clover, Casey, Wessel's Julie, Ristau's Jenny on down have all been solid reproducers.
I only own half of Sky, but I can tell you that I wouldn't sell her for the price of a new pickup. She isn't perfect but I've yet to see one that is. I'll show her against anything. She has alot of Finley River type traits and she suits me just fine.


Posted by on 11-28-2007 04:18 AM:

RH-- Could you post or PM me the ped on your Gem III dog?? My first dog was off Wild Casey and a Finley River gyp that had some similar breeding to Hanson's Gem female.


Posted by RH. on 11-28-2007 04:01 PM:

..............................Kentucky River Rowdy
.......................Kentucky River Racket
..............................Hulls Bland CO. Sue
..................Sag City Ragin Cajun
..............................White River Rick
.......................Western Showgirl
..............................Little Creek Sue

........Grandview Jazz

...............................Hardwood Patch
.........................Brummers Finley River Woody
...............................Hanson's Finley River Gem
....................Grandview Jill
...............................Neosho River Skinner
.........................Finley River Gem III
...............................Hanson's Finley River Gem


She fell about 25 feet out of a tree Monday night while hunting..Shes pretty slow right now but i think she will be alright.


Posted by wkfii on 11-28-2007 09:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by brogy
I haven't had enough experience with "Nailor" dogs to even have an opinion on them. I kinda assume its like "Lipper" dogs, although both Lipper and Nailor were examples of strong reproducers they had so many different types of females being bred to them that it is hard to come to a conclusion as to what traits were dominant from the sire as opposed to the dozens or hundreds of poor females that were bred to them.
Chris and I are aware that the shot of Nailor in there will scare away the "Finley River" purests, to some extent it scared Chris away which allowed me to acquire half interest in Sky. Chris tends to only feed dogs whose pedigree excludes Nailor, Sackett Jr, Stylish Harry, Rat Attack, and etc... Sky is the exception. She is a "bonafide coondog" and could eat feed at almost anyones house. We can provide lots of references on Sky from dedicated hunters that have been in the winner's circle. Sky has a whole pile of win slips in UKC with a bunch of 2nds and a few 3rds & etc. We just haven't been able to get that first place on her.
Sky's mother is one of the best hounds I've ever been to the timber with and she is a reproducer although most her offspring have never seen a nitehunt. I have hunted with 6 out of her 10 or so living offspring out of 3 different litters and they are all coondogs of some caliber and 2 for sure were started by the worst dog trainers in the country. There are a bunch of grandpups to old Jenny that are half cur running around the area and most can't be bought from the hidehunters who feed them, that should say something about the reproducing ability in these dogs. From Logan's Julie, Clover, Casey, Wessel's Julie, Ristau's Jenny on down have all been solid reproducers.
I only own half of Sky, but I can tell you that I wouldn't sell her for the price of a new pickup. She isn't perfect but I've yet to see one that is. I'll show her against anything. She has alot of Finley River type traits and she suits me just fine.



The thing about Nailor is that he was a weak tracker. His sire was a weak tracker as well. I agree with you that just because you have one line, it would not necessarily have any impact. The one that I have that that is ok, I bought with the understanding that she had western bred Walker lines with some of Mike Dohoney's breeding. When I got the seven generation and saw Nailor there, I was immediately in a fit of rage. It probably really didn't affect her at all. She is a nice competent hound. Really nice feet. So I see what you are saying. Sometimes we paint with too broad of a brush.

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Posted by wkfii on 11-28-2007 09:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by NAILOR
Does anyone know how to get a hold of William (Cody) Hanson? I bought a nice female from him a couple years ago and was looking to talk to him about getting another one.

If you have a phone # for him you can email it to me at kyle@cornbeltkennels.com Thanks.



I have a really nice stud a bought from him. I will call him and have him contact you. Send me you info.

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Posted by 8 mile tw on 11-29-2007 02:35 AM:

Finley River

Just curious if anyone knows anything about Lonnie Mears dog Finley River Timber. has anyone hunted with him? He is off Finley River Lonnie semen. I bought a pup off Lonnie recently and it is off this dog. Lonnie speaks real high of him. The mother of the pup is Finley River Kiss. Thanks....

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Posted by on 11-29-2007 02:46 AM:

Anyone know anything about Finley River Flying Hawk??? How was he bred and etc??
A buddy of mine has a dog that shows him in the pedigree. Just wondering.


Posted by RH. on 11-29-2007 03:23 AM:




Brogy-Jazz is the black & white dog on the right and the one on the left is my cardXhoney pup.


Posted by on 11-29-2007 03:34 AM:

Nice looking hounds RH!


Posted by Robert Starke on 11-29-2007 08:44 AM:

Terry Willford re: SFR Jammin Mundar

Terry,
Raymond Lassiter hunted SFR Jammin Mundar before he went to Sheldon's. Raymond said he had a good bawl mouth on track and was a good hard chop mouth tree dog. Raymond said Sheldon caught 104 coons with him that season. Sheldon never hunted him in competition. Tree Jammin Mundar was 4th in the UKC Wd. Hunt and Mundo, Jr. was 13th in the UKC Wd. Hunt. Gold Creek Mundo finished in the top 20 of the ACHA World Hunt.
Good Hunting,
Robert








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Posted by Robert Starke on 11-29-2007 08:51 AM:

Wkfii re: Gasconade River

The Gasconade River is located in south central Missouri.
Good Hunting,
Robert


Posted by Robert Starke on 11-29-2007 09:02 AM:

Terry Willford and Wkfii re: Pac Man

Pac Man's pedigree: Wd Ch. Kentucky River Striker, Gann's Finisher, Jr. , and Wd. Ch. Gann's Finisher. If you have seen those hounds or pictures, Pac Man fits in nicely. Pac Man was sold by Leroy Penny from Sturgeon, Mo at that time.
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