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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-08-2009 04:50 AM:

Jeff, I agree with 99.999% of what you posted, but Al Gore has more ties to Oil than Cheney or Bush. {Occidental Petroleum) His family made hundreds of millions from OP.

Going even further, The Democrat National Committee invests in oil from South America, thus the reason they didnt want us to drill more of our own and help flood the market to lower prices.

On top of that many Democrats are invested in oil.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney D(-NY): $50,000 -$100,00 BP stock & Exxon Mobil stock worth between $100,000 and $250,000.
Rep. David Price (D-N.C.): owns between $15,000 and $50,000 of Chevron; $250,000-$500,000 of Exxon Mobil
Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN): $15,000-$50,000 Chevron; $50,000-$100,000 Exxon; $15-50,000 Schlumberger
Rep. Jim Oberstar( D-MN): his wife owns $50,000-$100,000 of Exxon stock
Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA): $15,000-$50,000 of Exxon and $1000-$15,000 of Conoco Phillips
Rep. Charlie Wilson (D-OH): (not the movie’s Charlie Wilson) $1000-$15,000 Exxon; $15,000-$50,000 Chevron
Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX): $100,000-$250,000 Exxon; $50,000-$100,000 Chevron
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA): $1000-$15,000 BP; $1000-$15,000 Chevron
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA): $65,000-$150,000 Exxon; $15,000-$50,000 BP

Just to name a few.

Having said that, you are right,Bush allowed the Dems to run this country into the ground and allowed to many of their pet projects to pass which drained our economy. I will give him kudos for trying to investigate and warn of the F-mae and mac fiasco's. He was one heck of a "Democrat President". It took a Jimmy Carter running this country into the ground to get us a Ronald Reagan. Obama is a one termer. People are realizing how dangerous he is.

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Posted by JEFFHESTER on 08-08-2009 05:14 AM:

Globalist.............

I was in the military for quite some time. My job was to prepare intelligence reports and brief various individuals on various intel info. One gentleman that I prepared an intelligence briefing on was a gentelman by the name of Javier Solana. I could talk for days about this character but all I'm going to say is 'google' him and read the facts for yourself. Another intel briefing I presented/prepared was 'Saudi Oil Money and Politics'. This is what the briefing amounted to consisted of. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George Bush Senior and George Bush Jr. all had ties to Saudi oil money. There was no direct ties linked to Ronald Reagan besides his vice being former CIA Director George Bush Sr.
My opinion we're headed for a Globalist society and we're steering away from our sovereign nation at lightning speed.
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Posted by liberalcreek on 08-08-2009 05:17 AM:

Re: Globalist.............

quote:
Originally posted by JEFFHESTER

My opinion we're headed for a Globalist society and we're steering away from our sovereign nation at lightning speed.
Jeff

YEP!! I agree 110%

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Posted by JEFFHESTER on 08-08-2009 05:31 AM:

Liberal Creek.... It all makes sense now!

Al Gore.... he would have a lot to gain by preaching the 'Green House Gases' crap... now wouldn't he? I bet old Alfred Nobel (Nobel Peace Prize) stood up in his casket when he heard Al Gore had received the coveted 'Nobel Prize'. I believe Mr. Nobel wanted Norway to present the prize because he felt that Norway would be above political influence. Guess what???? Mr. Nobel you were wrong!!!!
Jeff

Posted by liberalcreek on 08-08-2009 12:55 PM:

MY parents were Democrats. I considered myself one as well.

Until one day I realized that we are only guaranteed LIFE LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS,and NOT AN EQUAL OUTCOME. The road is there,how "YOU AND ME" choose to travel it,how far you go is up to "YOU" and not "ME".

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Posted by trackdriver on 08-08-2009 01:30 PM:

I agree 100%!

Posted by padfoot on 08-08-2009 01:38 PM:

I did not vote for him but would like the chance to sit down with him and ask many questions,

1) why do african -americans not want to be called black? My grandparents were full Irish & full Native American Indian, yet I do not refer to myself as an Indian-American or Irish-American, I am an American,

2)why does the gov feel that the illegals are entitled to social security, when they contribute nothing to social security,

3) what happened to the land of the free and the home of the brave, what happened to one nation under god, even the presidental oath say so help me god.

4) why was the gov so bent on helping 2 gals that crossed into north korea illegally and they knew they did, yet they won't help a man get his sone back who has been in brazil or chili or south america for 5 years even tho their court said send him home to his father in jersey

5) has he considered how many more jobs will be lost if this health insurance plan goes into effect (pary it doesn't), employers will not be able to afford it so they will lay off workers or close, what will have been gained then,

6) health insurance is about health, and yes affordabillity, those thata do not qualify for individual plans can go into the state pool, but most chose not to. if this health ins plan passes, that the bill states if a procedure is done once that the same person can't have the same procedure again, how many folks will that hurt, and does he even care.

7) why does congress need 2 private jets costing millions (from 8/7 today show & cnn) to take them around the world when that money could be best spent elsewhere, but congress is greedy and they should all be replaced.

and the list goes on.

He needs to remember what this country has stood for and who has made the ultimate sacrifice for it, this country need to get back to the basics. the way it is headed it will distroy itselft from the inside (what the moslems want)

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Posted by trackdriver on 08-08-2009 02:00 PM:

Mr.Obama wouldn't know the answer to your first ? being that he doesn't know every BLACK person.Maybe I can help you get out a crayon box an look?

Posted by hellcat on 08-08-2009 03:11 PM:

Re: JEFFHESTER

quote:
Originally posted by AUGGY1
Way to go jeff tell em like it is,your not afraid of them are you ? they know what happen they'er just mad because they screwed up by putting him back in the 2nd time. Hey fellas let it go you messed up, we democrats forgive you.

I was not a big fan of GWB but I was given little choice, Kerry is and was the same type of Globalist as Obama. We have been governed by Elitist for quite some time now, both parties seem to nominate them if we as citizens like it or not. Our parties give us little choice, both agree on 80% of todays issues.
The major difference is the rate of speed they will use to take away our right to Life, Liberty and the prusuite of Happiness. Both seem to beleive that Big Brother knows whats best for us all. I am always surprised that many citizens seem to agree.

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Posted by rrs on 08-08-2009 03:51 PM:

jess,
you hit the target, game is always the same, just different players and a little bit different rhetoric, same car-just different rate of speed, but same destination, both parties do the bidding of big vested interests and not that of the people... we get caught up in political diatribe, labeling- hate- ideology, while the game goes on and the people only sit on the sidelines...

Posted by trackdriver on 08-08-2009 03:54 PM:

Good post cat and rrs. Division is profitable!

Posted by hellcat on 08-08-2009 04:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
Good post cat and rrs. Division is profitable!

Agreed
It's sad but true, The answer will come when WE THE PEOPLE sit down together and say enough of this B/S. We can solve problems ourselves !!
I just have my doubts that we will have the power to do that "IF" things keep going as they are.

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Posted by rrs on 08-08-2009 04:17 PM:

an apathetic and divided majority is able to be controlled by an active-well financed majority that expouses divide-conquer, most dream the dream, but live the reality, but the beat goes on, yet most of the citizens are not in the band....

Posted by hellcat on 08-08-2009 04:23 PM:

"Where apathy rules all men are slaves"

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Posted by CHAD RICHARDSON on 08-08-2009 06:18 PM:

I believe Patrick Henry said "The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots." Our fore fathers were very smart. That is why we have the right to bear arms. To defend our country against a foreign invasion and for overthrowing a corrupt and inept government. That is why we "the people" must fight to protect the second amendment.

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Posted by Wingman66 on 08-08-2009 07:49 PM:

quote:
MY parents were Democrats. I considered myself one as well.

Theres a shocker. Wow...

The last 9-10 post have more sense to me than all the rest. RRS said it all...

quote:
an apathetic and divided majority is able to be controlled by an active-well financed majority that expouses divide-conquer, most dream the dream, but live the reality, but the beat goes on, yet most of the citizens are not in the band

as did Jeff...

quote:
My opinion we're headed for a Globalist society and we're steering away from our sovereign nation at lightning speed.

Not a conspiracy theorist but bush sr himself talked about a new world order. Read up on the G8 summit. The USA isn't the only Country trying these radical new ideas...

http://www.g8italia2009.it/G8/Home/...iPrincipali.htm

I believe what jesse ventura said also. Reps and dems are just like wrestlers. Its all scripted. In the ring they hate each other, making the crowd choose sides good guy/bad guy. After the show is over, they are best friends and divide the spoils amoung themselves. Dems or reps it does'nt matter. They all make up the government. Both sides get paid, love them or hate them does'nt matter.

I also agree with what Elvis said once. One of these days, we are gonna have to take our Country back from our own government. That is a very powerful statement. The question is, how are we gonna do it without all of us getting killed? If you think for one minute the 2nd Amend is gonna do it, you are'nt living in the real world. What is your 12 gauge gonna do against a blackhawk? lol... Don't think for one minute they are just gonna hand it over either...

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Posted by treemine2 on 08-08-2009 08:30 PM:

Your wrong Wongman. Obama is a new type of politician. He is going to do away wioth politics and rule this country with the iron fist we need to be better people and submit to the govt.

Posted by john nannemann on 08-09-2009 04:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66

I also agree with what Elvis said once. One of these days, we are gonna have to take our Country back from our own government. That is a very powerful statement. The question is, how are we gonna do it without all of us getting killed? If you think for one minute the 2nd Amend is gonna do it, you are'nt living in the real world. What is your 12 gauge gonna do against a blackhawk? lol... Don't think for one minute they are just gonna hand it over either...

you got this nailed, wing. why do you think they put those shots on t.v. of the smart bombs going down chimneys. it ain't to show how smart we are, it's to show those like me with a brain and can figure "odds" to back down. scary and sad.

Posted by hellcat on 08-09-2009 06:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by CHAD RICHARDSON
I believe Patrick Henry said "The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots." Our fore fathers were very smart. That is why we have the right to bear arms. To defend our country against a foreign invasion and for overthrowing a corrupt and inept government. That is why we "the people" must fight to protect the second amendment.

Great Quote Chad !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 08-09-2009 02:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Theres a shocker. Wow..

I also agree with what Elvis said once. One of these days, we are gonna have to take our Country back from our own government. That is a very powerful statement. The question is, how are we gonna do it without all of us getting killed? If you think for one minute the 2nd Amend is gonna do it, you are'nt living in the real world. What is your 12 gauge gonna do against a blackhawk? lol... Don't think for one minute they are just gonna hand it over either...

Do you think our fellow Countryman, in the Military, will attack us, and take away our weapons?
Those men are our Brothers, Sons, Cousins, Nephews, Son in Laws, Brother in Laws, Neighbors, and Friends.

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Posted by JEFFHESTER on 08-09-2009 04:28 PM:

Richard

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Nethery
Do you think our fellow Countryman, in the Military, will attack us, and take away our weapons?
Those men are our Brothers, Sons, Cousins, Nephews, Son in Laws, Brother in Laws, Neighbors, and Friends.

Very good point... they won't use our troops they'll use the troops of the United Nations to do it or they'll make laws where it's a felony to own certain weapons and get us one at a time. Divide and conquer. Look at the David Karesh(spelling?)incident... this speaks volumes of what they're capable of. I know the fool thought he was Jesus Christ and so on and so forth but that's not why the feds were involved. They were involved over weapons violations. A little something to think about.
Jeff

Posted by john nannemann on 08-09-2009 05:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Nethery
Do you think our fellow Countryman, in the Military, will attack us, and take away our weapons?
Those men are our Brothers, Sons, Cousins, Nephews, Son in Laws, Brother in Laws, Neighbors, and Friends.

richard, unfortunately, history has shown some would and some wouldn't. how about the civil war? brother against brother in some cases. it CAN happen, and has repeatedly.
how about cain and abel?

Posted by john nannemann on 08-09-2009 05:21 PM:

Re: All Republicans

quote:
Originally posted by AUGGY1
Im a democrat and i don't want to have a beer with the president, i might drink a coke with him, all you so call republicans i thought were strong christians, i thought drinking was a no-no!(beer)

i'm catholic, the "beer drinking christian". just like Jesus and his 1st miracle. water to wine, remember. lol

you know, like the joke about the catholic wedding, the pentecostal preacher and the baptist preacher?

Posted by liberalcreek on 08-09-2009 07:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Nethery

Those men are our Brothers, Sons, Cousins, Nephews, Son in Laws, Brother in Laws, Neighbors, and Friends.

And all Military personnel are already be asked that question when they enlist or re-enlist.

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Posted by BIG$BLUES on 08-09-2009 11:18 PM:

Did someone say Gore had more ties to oil than Bush and Cheney lol ok check into how big Cheney severance package was from haliburton when he left to become the number 2 man i say there is a good chance he goes back to them well mabe not he does not need anymore $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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