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Posted by huntman on 07-10-2010 01:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Buckshot
Yes, the new stuff has fertilizer. They changed the formula last year.

Gordon's Tree and Shrub (Tractor Supply) and Old Dominion Tree and Shrub is the same as the old version of the Bayer Tree and Shrub.

Just to update and ask a question.

I was looking for one of the above products and could only find the Bayer in the "feed" type. I did find another that seems to have the same ingredients though. Ortho Max Tree & Shrub. It's listed as 1.47% Imidacloprid and 98.53% Other Ingredients. Would the "other" ingredients be the same as Bayer? Is this what is listed with the Gordon's and Old Dominion?

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Posted by chuck barham on 07-19-2010 10:45 PM:

Southern States sell's "Annual Tree & Shrub" same 1.47% Imidacloprid

Posted by BRYAN J on 07-31-2010 12:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jay Bird 76
My dog had a bad reaction a little over a year ago from the Bayer. I now use cattle tags or regular drops on the back. Got 2 much time and money tied up in the dogs to take chances. Good luck and think twice before doing anthing.

My thoughts all along!!

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Posted by oklared on 07-31-2010 01:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jay Bird 76
My dog had a bad reaction a little over a year ago from the Bayer. I now use cattle tags or regular drops on the back. Got 2 much time and money tied up in the dogs to take chances. Good luck and think twice before doing anthing.

WHAT KIND OF REACTION, AND YOU MUST REMEMBER LIKE PEOPLE- a PERTICULAR DOG COULD HAVE A REACTION TO ANYTHING, I HEARD OF DOGS THAT HAVE A REACTION TO A PERTICULAR DOG FOOD ETC, BUT AS A WHOLE I THINK ITS FINE, IF YOU LOOK ON A MED. BOTTLE THE LISTED POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS WILL SCARE YOU BUT YOU MUST TAKE ANYWAY. JMO

Posted by oklared on 07-31-2010 01:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by barryg35
is there any difference on the color of ear tags you talking about? i use the orange ones. whats the difference?

been using the bayer tree & shrub for a couple years now. works great and no side effects what so ever. but like buckshot posted i use the tractor supply brand since bayer changed formula to add fertilizer

YOU MUST USE 4cc PER 10lbs AND PUT ON BACK AND SOME ON BELLY AND RUBB IT IN ALL OVER BELLY, I DID IT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO AND HAVENT SEEN A FLEA SENCE.

Posted by oklared on 07-31-2010 01:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
YOU MUST USE 4cc PER 10lbs AND PUT ON BACK AND SOME ON BELLY AND RUBB IT IN ALL OVER BELLY, I DID IT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO AND HAVENT SEEN A FLEA SENCE.

ALSO HOW DO WE KNOW THE FERT. PART IS HARMFULL, YOU PUT IT ON FRUIT AND VEGGYS, YOUR DOG IS IN IT WHEN HE HUNTS, SO WHO SAYS IT IS HARMFULL, WHY IS IT MORE HARMFULL THAN THE MAIN INGREEDENT? IF YOU CHECK ABOUT THE IMMITION THAT THE CATTLE TAGS PUT OFF IT CAN BE HARMFULL ALSO.
AND ONE OTHER THOUGHT, IS THE FERTILIZER MORE OR LESS HARMFULL THAT THE NASTY WATER YOUR DOG DRINKS WHEN YOU HUNT HIM? OR THE DEAD ANIMAL HE ROLES IN.

Posted by hunterdon1 on 08-06-2010 11:53 PM:

any around Chesterfield VA

The Bayer that the Lowe's sells has the fertilizer and I am not going to use that on my dogs. I went by Tractor Supply and they did not have the Gordon's or Old Dominion Tree and Shrub. Does anyone know of a place around Chesterfield,VA that sells either or a place I can purchase online. Thanks

Posted by barryg35 on 08-07-2010 02:07 AM:

Re: any around Chesterfield VA

quote:
Originally posted by hunterdon1
The Bayer that the Lowe's sells has the fertilizer and I am not going to use that on my dogs. I went by Tractor Supply and they did not have the Gordon's or Old Dominion Tree and Shrub. Does anyone know of a place around Chesterfield,VA that sells either or a place I can purchase online. Thanks

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Posted by bandits on 08-08-2010 05:23 PM:

24 hrs later and I can tell a diff. all ready! This is what I used, Southern States "Annual Tree & Shrub" same 1.47% Imidacloprid

http://www.southernstates.com/catal...ontrol-1qt.aspx

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Posted by branchvillekell on 08-08-2010 05:31 PM:

i use bronco the horse fly spray. repels all types of flies, safe for dogs, kills fleas and ticks. can use it around and in kennels and dog boxes safely. use it on my legs when i go walkin in the woods and never a tick. use it everywhere, even around the house windows. no flies.

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Posted by BRYAN J on 08-09-2010 01:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by branchvillekell
i use bronco the horse fly spray. repels all types of flies, safe for dogs, kills fleas and ticks. can use it around and in kennels and dog boxes safely. use it on my legs when i go walkin in the woods and never a tick. use it everywhere, even around the house windows. no flies.

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I use fly spray too with frontline plus. Works great. I only have 2 hounds though!

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Posted by burdette on 08-09-2010 03:25 AM:

IVE BEEN USING BAYER FOR A COUPLE YRS NOW ON OUR CATS AND MY DOGS AND THEY ARE ALL STILL ALIVE LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by bandits on 08-10-2010 10:33 PM:

3rd day, this stuff is unbelievable, NO fleas and have tried all kind of stuff!! this stuff works great with no problems, also used on 11 week old pups.

Posted by markc106 on 08-12-2010 12:03 PM:

Anothe bayer T&S ???

I was able to find complete insect killer , not the T&S...the imidaclaoprid is .97..not the 1.47....can I use this and what amount should I give about a 50 pound hound and a jack russell.

Thanks,
mark

Posted by MJJean on 08-14-2010 11:27 PM:

Hi, new here. I read about Bayer Tree and Shrub on other forums and stumbled upon these forums when looking for the dosage after I bought some.

Unfortunately, the Bayer Corp. seems to have changed the formula of the product and added fertilizer or just changed the label when they added the "Protect And Feed". Since no one knows if it was just a label change or a formula change some people don't trust the product anymore. So, people on other forums I have visited have stopped using Bayer and moved on to Ortho Max Tree and Shrub or Gordon's Tree and Shrub.

I couldn't find Gordon's, but I had no problem finding Ortho Max at Home Depot. Same Imidicloprid 1.47% and same price for 32oz as the Bayer.

Posted by B Beland on 08-30-2010 04:50 PM:

Old Dominion Tree & Shrub

I have a case of Old Dominion Tree & Shrub and can bring it to Autumn Oaks this weekend if anybody needs some. I will need $15.00 a qt. for this.
Give me a call before Weds. or at Oaks and I should have some.
Have used this on old dogs and pups and it seems to work great.

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Posted by cartwright on 05-26-2011 07:22 AM:

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Posted by mpd544 on 05-29-2011 09:20 PM:

The new stuff is green and they added fertilizer is it still safe to use? I notice its not meant for spray on now and intended to pour around the base of the tree.

is it the same doseage?
is it still safe?

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Posted by skyblu on 05-30-2011 04:04 PM:

Go to Feedstore

Dominion works fine - my feedstore man said it's the same as Bayer T&S. I've been using (both) of this stuff for several years now & never had a problem or bad reaction. I believe SOME people aren't reading the label & they've purchased something OTHER than T&S. In Texas it's a constant battle against fleas & ticks & T&S has literally saved me HUNDREDS of dollars that I used to spend on sprays & dips.

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Posted by cripple_creek on 02-16-2012 09:11 PM:

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Posted by robgregory on 02-16-2012 10:09 PM:

Bayer Tree & Shrub

I been usin' it for the past 3 yrs. No ill effects at all that i can see.I do dilute it with water 50/50.In my opinion,for the price,you can't beat it.
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Posted by l.lyle on 02-16-2012 10:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mpd544
The new stuff is green and they added fertilizer is it still safe to use? I notice its not meant for spray on now and intended to pour around the base of the tree.

is it the same doseage?
is it still safe?

I doubt it would do any good poured around the base of your dog.
If it is 1.47% Imidaclorpid it is the same dosage. Safe? I sling fertilizer by hand and get it in my shoes for hours and don't think anything of it. Some people are scared of fertilizer, LOL unless it's organic of course.

Posted by B&LKennels on 02-18-2012 12:16 AM:

btt

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 02-18-2012 12:26 AM:

FLEAS

I USE RED CEADER CHIPS FOR BEDING WITH NO FLEA PROBLEMS ALSO THE COMFORITS PILL WORKS GREAT BUT IF YOU HAVE SERVAL DOGS THE PILL WOULD BE ALITTLE EXPENSIVE JMO

Posted by B&LKennels on 02-19-2012 11:01 PM:

TICKS

Do you just sprinkle the seven dust on the dog? And if so where just down the back ?

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