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Posted by bluetikman on 08-14-2020 09:21 PM:

Does Speed Matter??

I see guys posting pics of dogs on garmin of there speed is that q big factor in how dogs hunt and separates the winners from the commons ones??

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Posted by Dogwhisper on 08-14-2020 10:31 PM:

Only if the dog(s) are accurate....other than that there just chaseing the wind.......real fast ...lol


Posted by Dave Richards on 08-14-2020 11:11 PM:

Speed

I second Dogwhisper on his remark, and to paraphrase Townsend Whelen famous remark that only accurate rifles are interesting, I think only ACCURATE coon dogs are interesting. I love speed, but only with ACCURACY. Dave

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Posted by pamjohnson on 08-14-2020 11:46 PM:

I feel it's very important but so many things can be just as important.


Posted by wart on 08-15-2020 12:02 AM:

Dogs

Speed doesn't help if they make mistakes and are not productive similar to a hard hunting dog what good is a wide hunting dog without results


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 08-15-2020 01:35 AM:

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I never put it above accuracy. Buy when you see one fast and accurate. You're seeing something special.

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Posted by shadinc on 08-15-2020 02:46 AM:

Re: .

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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
I never put it above accuracy. Buy when you see one fast and accurate. You're seeing something special.
I have one that's kinda slow and accurate and I think she's special. Seriously, she hunts in a slow trot. I think a fast hunting dog would have a coon treed before she strikes sometime.

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Posted by Rip on 08-15-2020 03:02 AM:

I thought you meant track speed when I saw the title and it got me interested LOL.


Track speed doesn't matter any more. It used to be one of the things that separated the good from the great.

Now it doesn't matter as long as it always trees by itself and has a coon it can be slow as Christmas and still win a ton.

That is a change I don't like but it is reality today.

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Posted by yadkintar on 08-15-2020 01:41 PM:

Watching the garmin is not the way to judge it. I have had dogs circle around me get in a road and take off and couldn’t hardly catch them in a pickup they were not being productive at that speed. When you can appreciate it is when all dogs are on the same track and the dog with superior nose and track speed strings the others out and has the coon treed a substantial time before the others get there because the others don’t have his abilities.



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Posted by lonesomedog1 on 08-15-2020 02:15 PM:

Speed

X2 tar


Posted by 2ol2hunt on 08-15-2020 03:06 PM:

X3 on Tar..... he's always right!.... but some of y'all will never learn!! ..lol


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 08-15-2020 04:21 PM:

The way a dog moves around is indicative of how productive they are likely to be.

People can say it doesnt matter above this, or above that, but that is the first thing I look at in a young dog, because if they have that, the rest is more likely to come with time.

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Posted by yadkintar on 08-15-2020 04:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
The way a dog moves around is indicative of how productive they are likely to be.

People can say it doesnt matter above this, or above that, but that is the first thing I look at in a young dog, because if they have that, the rest is more likely to come with time.





Hustle yes ! Going on a time warp before struck no !


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Posted by Reuben on 08-15-2020 05:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
The way a dog moves around is indicative of how productive they are likely to be.

People can say it doesnt matter above this, or above that, but that is the first thing I look at in a young dog, because if they have that, the rest is more likely to come with time.



I agree...If I don’t see it then I say it’s a 50/50 chance and I don’t like those odds...🧐

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Posted by Kler Kry on 08-15-2020 05:25 PM:

Speed / Desire

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
The way a dog moves around is indicative of how productive they are likely to be.

People can say it doesnt matter above this, or above that, but that is the first thing I look at in a young dog, because if they have that, the rest is more likely to come with time.



I agree, without desire/speed and intelligence you just have a nice dog.


Posted by Kler Kry on 08-15-2020 05:25 PM:

Speed / Desire

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
The way a dog moves around is indicative of how productive they are likely to be.

People can say it doesnt matter above this, or above that, but that is the first thing I look at in a young dog, because if they have that, the rest is more likely to come with time.



I agree, without desire/speed and intelligence you just have a nice dog.


Posted by Dave Richards on 08-16-2020 08:22 PM:

Speed

Like Ken Risley said, I like speed if they have the desire and brains to go with the speed. I do not like a lazy dog, lazy dogs are like lazy people, they do not accomplish much in life. Dave

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Posted by yadkintar on 08-16-2020 10:46 PM:

Re: Speed

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Like Ken Risley said, I like speed if they have the desire and brains to go with the speed. I do not like a lazy dog, lazy dogs are like lazy people, they do not accomplish much in life. Dave




I am lazy now and I like it !



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Posted by novicane65 on 08-17-2020 10:44 PM:

Re: Does Speed Matter??

quote:
Originally posted by bluetikman
I see guys posting pics of dogs on garmin of there speed is that q big factor in how dogs hunt and separates the winners from the commons ones??




Are you asking about hunting speed or track speed? Both are different, and both can make or break you.

I like to see double digits consistently but there's only 25% of dogs and pups that can hunt at that speed. And even less that can track at that speed. But I will not hunt a dog if it doesn't hunt at least 7mph and track at 6mph.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 08-18-2020 12:56 AM:

Re: Re: Does Speed Matter??

quote:
Originally posted by novicane65
Are you asking about hunting speed or track speed? Both are different, and both can make or break you.

I like to see double digits consistently but there's only 25% of dogs and pups that can hunt at that speed. And even less that can track at that speed. But I will not hunt a dog if it doesn't hunt at least 7mph and track at 6mph.


The average person walks at 3 to 4 mph and can jog at 4-6 mph.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 08-18-2020 01:12 AM:

Jen

Me and old Tar are walking about 1mph and jogging is out of the question. Lol. Dave

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Posted by shadinc on 08-18-2020 01:45 AM:

Re: Jen

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Me and old Tar are walking about 1mph and jogging is out of the question. Lol. Dave
Wait for me. Y'all are walking too fast.

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Posted by yadkintar on 08-18-2020 01:55 AM:

What you talken bout Willis we riden in the pickup lol.


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Posted by Dave Richards on 08-18-2020 02:00 AM:

Donald Bergeron

Lol. We are just barely shuffling along, my grass grows faster than me and old Tar move, especially in these mountains and that briar patch he hunts in. Tar said the last coon his dog treed died of old age before he made it to the tree. Unless they tree close to the truck ( road hunting ) I usually don't make it to the tree. I won't say me and Tar are slow, it's just that every one else is faster. Lol. Dave

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Posted by yadkintar on 08-18-2020 02:08 AM:

Re: Donald Bergeron

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Lol. We are just barely shuffling along, my grass grows faster than me and old Tar move, especially in these mountains and that briar patch he hunts in. Tar said the last coon his dog treed died of old age before he made it to the tree. Unless they tree close to the truck ( road hunting ) I usually don't make it to the tree. I won't say me and Tar are slow, it's just that every one else is faster. Lol. Dave




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