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It is not about the dogs anymore.

Become a garmin master and get you a flir thermal a money man and become famous.


Tar

Was it ever about the hound for those looking to be famous??? Win at all cost because nobody remembers the losers.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Become a garmin master and get you a flir thermal a money man and become famous.


Tar

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I carry a flir, have used it in hunts. Cannot score a tree with one, have to see the animal with your, and the majority of the casts eyes or non hunting judges eyes to be plus. Does it help pinpoint where to shine your light, yes. And who is allowing dogs to be put on the paper that aren’t heard, question it if you can’t hear the dog.

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Originally posted by Sfox91
I carry a flir, have used it in hunts. Cannot score a tree with one, have to see the animal with your, and the majority of the casts eyes or non hunting judges eyes to be plus. Does it help pinpoint where to shine your light, yes. And who is allowing dogs to be put on the paper that aren’t heard, question it if you can’t hear the dog.

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People have been moving dogs long before a thermal came into play

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Sam fox
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Yes they were moving dogs before thermal come along but more times then not from an obvious slick to a bigger tree close by. With a flir they know which tree to move it to.

I love my Garmin but it sure has changed the hunts. Yes you gotta hear them to score them but you can walk a long ways in 8 mins when you know which direction to walk.

Those out of pocket dogs used to be useless.

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Originally posted by Sfox91
People have been moving dogs long before a thermal came into play

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Believe it or not but there are still some honest people that hunt the hunts.

...."It is not all about the dogs anymore"...

Oh my goodness, I can't believe that Tarbaby has the nerve to make such a statement. Was it all about the dogs when you were younger, had a money man and traveled the country as a paid handler? Was it ever all about the dogs?

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
...."It is not all about the dogs anymore"...

Oh my goodness, I can't believe that Tarbaby has the nerve to make such a statement. Was it all about the dogs when you were younger, had a money man and traveled the country as a paid handler? Was it ever all about the dogs?

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Oh my goodness, there is a name for it now, "Tarbaby Syndrome". It must be highly contagious because a lot of people seem to have it now.

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Originally posted by 4play
That's a 'Stretch' right there...........and he is still allowed to hunt and handle hounds.

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I went by myself to handle my dog once many years back. He was treed on a little bitty tree and there was a big huge oak about 10 yds away. I was very tempted to move him over to the obvious circle tree but I didn't. When the cast got there, one of them found a little kitten coon in his little tree. I have never even thought about moving one over since. If they make/pick a tree, that is their tree right or wrong.

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Originally posted by Vic Stoll
LOL

Nostalgia & rose colored glasses combined with a selective fading memory ..... the tarbaby syndrome

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Didn’t have a garmin , shock collar, tracking collar , not a very good light , you used your ears and your brain and you never hunted blueticks or redbones if you wanted to win lol.


Tarbaby

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"Just turn them loose and let the best dog win." That is what the hunts are like in our area. Can't believe there is so much cheating going on around the country. Like T Felderman said, there are some areas that have honest people attending the hunts. Come on up to eastern Iowa & enjoy. Take care, Ron.

Tar

Gotta love your laid back attitude these days, no more getting rattled by other folks comments. Just stating what most folks know as being true, but do not want to admit. Must be a lot of rose colored glasses being sold and worn these days. Lol. Dave

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Originally posted by Robert Johnson
hard to believe them guys are allowing the use of the Flir. Cap that off with going to trees alone and you have the makings for some very serious cheating. I love it. The place to be is becoming a playground for crooks. Washington DC will likely recruit a few of them.

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Re: Tar

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave Richards
Gotta love your laid back attitude these days, no more getting rattled by other folks comments. Just stating what most folks know as being true, but do not want to admit. Must be a lot of rose colored glasses being sold and worn these days. Lol. Dave [/QUOTE


I can hold my own fishing with the guys but mrs tar just put it on me lol.

Mrs tar - 10 big ones

Tar - 1 squeaker

Kinda humbles ya lol.


Tar

Not exactly the way this thread has gone but if you think about it competition hunting has really never been about the dog. Don't think the dog looks at a competition night any different than any other. Competition has been and rightly so about the pride a man has in his dog. Now I know that money is in the picture and that also has to be a motivating factor.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Didn’t have a garmin , shock collar, tracking collar , not a very good light , you used your ears and your brain and you never hunted blueticks or redbones if you wanted to win lol.

Tarbaby

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Home of:
A couple blue haired potlickers

Gone but not forgotten:
Nt Ch Fanny's Midnite Blue Annie - aka Sodie Pop R.I.P. - I will miss you old girl

Nt Ch Becky’s Midnite Blue Hank - R.I.P. Old Boy, thank you for the memories

Gr Nt Ch S&E's Midnite Lite Blue Snow (Co-Owned with my good friend Harry Eidenier) - We had a blast following you ole girl!

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Originally posted by Vic Stoll
C'mon tarbaby, stereotype breed babbling to dance a little side step?
Nice dodge the question Richard threw out there. Surely not do as I say, not as I do or have done ... it was alright then when you did it, wasn't it tarbaby?

Not talking about the tools or lack of available at the time, already walked a mile or three in that era, your're preaching to the choir

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Tom Wood

Preacher, the hunts were started with the dogs in mind and the concept was sound at the time. Simple, call the dogs for what they did and use the scoring system to determine the best dog in that cast. Dogs packed in those days and the strike was one track not 4 different tracks. It was easy to see what dog struck first, what dog treed first. No one hunted off buckets, it was more like a real hunt. Sadly, those days are gone, now it's 4 dogs going 4 different directions and the winner is usually the dog that struck first, no matter that it was babbling and went a mile to tree a hot pop up coon. No longer are the hunts a determination of the best dog in that cast. I only give validity to s dog that has won multiply casts to win the hunt, only cast winner elimination hunts produce a true champion. Dave

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Didn’t have a garmin , shock collar, tracking collar , not a very good light , you used your ears and your brain and you never hunted blueticks or redbones if you wanted to win lol.
OUCH!!! Lol

Tarbaby

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