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Posted by RedSealKennels on 04-02-2018 02:07 AM:

Pleasure Hunter or Competition Hunter

How many people identify as a pleasure Hunter or as a competition Hunter?
Pleasure Hunter - majority of your hunting is pleasure no competition hunting at all
Competition Hunter -majority of your time is spent entered in competition hunts and preparing dogs specifically to be ready for a competition hunt
Both- Pleasure and Competition Hunt equally.


Posted by Chuck Allen on 04-02-2018 04:02 AM:

90% PLEASURE HUNTER 10% COMPETITION

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Posted by bowling on 04-02-2018 05:43 AM:

More pleasure than Comp pleasure hunters will pay more money for dogs as a whole than comp hunters and they by far have better coon dogs as far as seeing eyes.


Posted by Davebrott on 04-02-2018 04:11 PM:

well if your hauling a dog around to these money hunts and your not consistently looking at eyes your not winning much.


Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-02-2018 04:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Davebrott
well if your hauling a dog around to these money hunts and your not consistently looking at eyes your not winning much.


Consistently looking at coon eyes or consistently saying they are looking at coon eyes?

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 04-02-2018 05:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
Consistently looking at coon eyes or consistently saying they are looking at coon eyes?


Jason,

I have never understood individuals who are so quick to accept prejudice as some coon hunters are.

What Dave states is true. If a dog does not consistently show you coon eyes, than that dog isn't going to win much.

Your statement is not only mean spirited, it is also very short sighted.

Pleasure hunters do not corner the market for good coon hounds no more than competition hunters do. Nor does one group have any moral high ground than the other. I know Mr. Brott, and I know for fact he knows what a coon hound is.

You, sir owe many an apology for suggesting that competition hunters are less truthful than pleasure hunters.

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Posted by tony.beals on 04-02-2018 05:37 PM:

Both

The older I get (62) the more I just pleasure hunt, I do however help out as much at the clubs for the hunts.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-02-2018 05:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Jason,

I have never understood individuals who are so quick to accept prejudice as some coon hunters are.

What Dave states is true. If a dog does not consistently show you coon eyes, than that dog isn't going to win much.

Your statement is not only mean spirited, it is also very short sighted.

Pleasure hunters do not corner the market for good coon hounds no more than competition hunters do. Nor does one group have any moral high ground than the other. I know Mr. Brott, and I know for fact he knows what a coon hound is.

You, sir owe many an apology for suggesting that competition hunters are less truthful than pleasure hunters.



Im not singling anyone out. I never did. And im not at all saying any overall blanket fact about either pleasure hunters or competiton hunters. Either way. That's not what im saying at all. But im not gonna act like I haven't saw the insane things I have saw either. I have saw some crazy stuff on hunts. I mean crazy. Im no better than anyone else but I know what a coon looks like.

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Posted by 4play on 04-02-2018 05:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Allen
90% PLEASURE HUNTER 10% COMPETITION


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Comp hunts aren't close to what they were when I 1st started hunting in Mid '80s

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Posted by tony.beals on 04-02-2018 05:40 PM:

Coon Eyes

Jason, I can tell you Dave looks at "Coon Eyes" he hauls some of the best hounds there are.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-02-2018 05:40 PM:

Oh my goodness, you don't think that a coonhunter woul be "meanspirited" do you? But at the same time, Jason you don't think that a coonhunter would be less than truthful do you?
My dogs are a lot more accurate when I pleasure hunt by myself than when I comp hunt. And they are way more accurate when I interweb or text hunt.


Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-02-2018 05:43 PM:

Many of the hunts I have been out on have been fine. Honest. Many have been a mess. I mean a spider eye plussing mess. Anyone being honest knows exactly what im talking about if you been on many hunts at all. So I challenge the statement that you have to see coon eyes to win hunts. That's not true. You SHOULD have to . That statement is true.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-02-2018 05:44 PM:

Re: Coon Eyes

quote:
Originally posted by tony.beals
Jason, I can tell you Dave looks at "Coon Eyes" he hauls some of the best hounds there are.


Good. Good for him. I don't doubt it.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-02-2018 05:50 PM:

I am sorry that I sounded mean. That's the last thing I want to be. But I do reserve the right to be honest about the things I have saw and have not saw and be real.

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Posted by shadinc on 04-02-2018 06:16 PM:

I am surprised at the results of this poll. I thought 90% of the people on here were competition hunters.


Posted by Davebrott on 04-02-2018 06:16 PM:

Re: Coon Eyes

quote:
Originally posted by tony.beals
Jason, I can tell you Dave looks at "Coon Eyes" he hauls some of the best hounds there are.
thanks Tony and Larry I don't claim to have the best but I wont feed a dog very long that don't show me coon most of the time. yes things happen in the hunt + coon that aren't there and so on but if your hauling a good dog you will win a lot more than you loose.


Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-02-2018 06:17 PM:

Re: Re: Coon Eyes

quote:
Originally posted by Davebrott
thanks Tony and Larry I don't claim to have the best but I wont feed a dog very long that don't show me coon most of the time. yes things happen in the hunt + coon that aren't there and so on but if your hauling a good dog you will win a lot more than you loose.


I agree 100%

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-02-2018 07:13 PM:

I don't find it surprising at all that 90% of the interweb posters are pleasure hunters. Have you not seen/read the way that they talk about comp hunts?


Posted by shane_atchison on 04-02-2018 08:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
I am surprised at the results of this poll. I thought 90% of the people on here were competition hunters.
There was a poll on here about the need for change in the rules and formats for the hunts a couple weeks ago and I knew by the responses there was very few serious Comp hunters voting or replying on the board..

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Posted by tln70 on 04-02-2018 11:10 PM:

Used to be about 50/50, now it's 98% pleasure hunt 2 % comp. And after last weekend it will probably drop to .5% comp. Ruff dog's cheating handlers.
I know that there are good dog's on both sides but it's not worth get a good dog ate up for a title that means nothing to anybody but me.
I sure wish it was like it was 35 years ago, but it's not and never will be. I got to hunt against some of the best, week in, week out. A lot of fun.

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Posted by micooner on 04-03-2018 08:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
I am surprised at the results of this poll. I thought 90% of the people on here were competition hunters.
if this poll was taken 30 years ago the results would be dofferent. Oh wait there wasn't the internet. Lol


Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-03-2018 01:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
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Comp hunts aren't close to what they were when I 1st started hunting in Mid '80s



Oh my goodness, the hunts have changed in the last 30 yrs. Imagine that! Look around you. The world has changed. How many school shootings were there 30 yrs ago?


Posted by JesseJ on 04-03-2018 02:11 PM:

When I stared we pleasure hunted thru the week n competition hunted weekends,there was only UKC n Club hunts then. JesseJ


Posted by tony.beals on 04-03-2018 02:18 PM:

Times a changing

Richard, the only shootings we had were shotguns loaded with rock salt LOL

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 04-03-2018 02:44 PM:

That rock salt sure did sting and leave welts for days. Does anyone remember when vandalism was called mischief? And the only mischief was when you "rolled" someone's yard.


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