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Posted by shadinc on 10-13-2017 07:45 PM:

Coon dog scholars.

Why does a good, accurate coon hound tree on a persimmon tree with nothing in it but persimmons.

Posted by HOBO on 10-13-2017 07:52 PM:

You answered your question with the last word.

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Posted by CHEWBACH on 10-13-2017 07:52 PM:

yep

its called slick treeing !! regardless what the excuses may be !!

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Posted by joey on 10-13-2017 08:14 PM:

Re: Coon dog scholars.

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Why does a good, accurate coon hound tree on a persimmon tree with nothing in it but persimmons.

They don't dogs that are fairly accurate say 70% tree slick persimmons and I have know idea why. I used to think it was just part of the game this time of year and I've heard a thousand different reasons why. All of them are just guessing. I hunted with Darrel Haygood for several years and every time his black dogs made a persimmon they had a coon. The one I'm Hunting right now has made around 20 persimmon trees since they started getting in them. He has only missed one and it was 10 feet off the ground in the next tree.

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Posted by English blues 9 on 10-13-2017 08:16 PM:

My 2 cents.

Im by no means a scholar just love to go hunting. Yall proababaly already know this but while the coon is up there his hands and feet smell like persimmons so when he climbs down they cant smell where he climbed down so they just tree where he went up at . But most time if you discpline them and send them on they will pick him up about 75 yards out or so. Just a dog needs to sure enough check and check good before settling down. This has been my expierence. But yall know what they say about opinions

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Posted by wjoey on 10-13-2017 09:10 PM:

PERSIMMIONS SMELL JUST LIKE A COON

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Posted by RatDog on 10-13-2017 09:13 PM:

perm...

Sounds like apple trees around here...

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Posted by swamp1 on 10-13-2017 11:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
You answered your question with the last word.

X2, they hit them hard and heavy while their there then move on to another food source.

Posted by Coongrease on 10-13-2017 11:58 PM:

Because there is alot of scent lots of tracks and they stay there awhile. Same with mulberry trees here

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Posted by Cory Highfill on 10-14-2017 12:29 AM:

One would think that there would be a track going to, then away from, an empty persimmon. My personal theory is that the persimmon on their feet and underside temporarily masks their scent when they leave that tree. Combine that with the strong scent of a small diameter tree with lots of scent from coons feeding in them regularly and spending lots of time up there as they feed around, and you have a recipe for a miss...

Posted by Jgarrett on 10-14-2017 01:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Coongrease
Because there is alot of scent lots of tracks and they stay there awhile. Same with mulberry trees here

We have mulberries too and we don't have the problem of missing in mulberry tress like we do persimmon. Like Joey said above some dogs don't slick tree on them hardly ever. I've owned a couple that didn't have a problem with them but I have had several that seemed like they couldn't pass one up. Why this happens would just be a guess but the theory of a lot of scent on those trees and persimmons masking the scent on their paws I would believe.

Posted by joey on 10-14-2017 03:27 AM:

I dont think there is any big mystery to it. I dont like the cover scent thing. To much body scent coming off of the coon for them not to smell him leaving. I think that the coon spend a long time up there and leave to much scent. Most of them are smaller trees and the dog can wind all of that scent. Dogs that tree a lot of persimmons also tree a lot of dens in the winter. Guess what, they are slick most of the time too. For the same reason.

Posted by rob thompson on 10-14-2017 03:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jgarrett
We have mulberries too and we don't have the problem of missing in mulberry tress like we do persimmon. Like Joey said above some dogs don't slick tree on them hardly ever. I've owned a couple that didn't have a problem with them but I have had several that seemed like they couldn't pass one up. Why this happens would just be a guess but the theory of a lot of scent on those trees and persimmons masking the scent on their paws I would believe.

do they eat with their back feet too?

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Posted by thomasg on 10-14-2017 03:50 AM:

Re: Coon dog scholars.

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Why does a good, accurate coon hound tree on a persimmon tree with nothing in it but persimmons.

one of my old time coon hunting mentors told me how to understand why this happens . he said just pick up some fresh coon scat with persimmon seeds in it . give it a good smell . before you put it down give it a good taste . lol

Posted by Jgarrett on 10-14-2017 03:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rob thompson
do they eat with their back feet too?

No but the back ones go where the front ones do. You got a guess you want to put out there rob?

Posted by rob thompson on 10-14-2017 03:57 AM:

Na don't wanna make anybody mad.lol

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Posted by swamp1 on 10-14-2017 04:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rob thompson
do they eat with their back feet too?

Lol, they hold it with their back feet till they pick it up with front and eat them,juice runs down their chin to their stomach area. It gets all over them,I guess.

Posted by rob thompson on 10-14-2017 04:08 AM:

Lol ya must be it!

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Posted by rob thompson on 10-14-2017 04:18 AM:

Dogs tree slick persimmons, mullberries, cherry, tree on corn stalks, Polk berry bushes, and chinky pins for the same reason. And it ain't got nothing to do with how they eat. Imo.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 10-14-2017 05:08 AM:

Rob

Got to agree with Rob, dogs tree slick on all kinds of food trees. I think its more lack of nose and brain than it being a persimmon tree. IMO. Dave

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Posted by blue blue on 10-14-2017 01:29 PM:

Think most on here don’t know but want everyone to think they do.

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Posted by yadkintar on 10-14-2017 01:33 PM:

Re: I

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Originally posted by blue blue
Think most on here don’t know but want everyone to think they do.

But at least we can think without going duh were da wabbit George uhh huh.

Posted by blue blue on 10-14-2017 03:03 PM:

Tar

I absolutely am not the smartest one around but am smart enough to know it.

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Posted by yadkintar on 10-14-2017 03:07 PM:

I guess I am gonna have to hang up my board stirring certification I can't even hit a nerve any more lol.

Posted by blue blue on 10-14-2017 03:17 PM:

Don’t

Give up tar you’ll catch someone in a bad mood. Lol. Maybe someone that treed a couple possums last night.

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