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Posted by Joel martin on 05-24-2015 04:17 AM:

feeder buckets?

I was wondering how everyone felt about hunting feeder buckets. I have heard some say there great and some say there bad for a dog. What is the right answer???

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Posted by oldblueboy706 on 05-24-2015 04:42 AM:

I think there ok to use for getting a dog started, or to even tune one up but shouldn't be used on a regular basis.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 05-24-2015 04:48 AM:

Feeders are a good tool to use to get a puppy going and even to use sometimes with your grown dogs. But if you got a grown dog and all you ever hunt him on is feeders then in my opinion you don't really know what you got.

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Posted by Joel martin on 05-24-2015 04:53 AM:

Yea there are guys around here that swear by them. I don't want my dog to have a crutch so to speak wouldn't mind I guess if it help train a pup but then the question is how long is long enough on a pup

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Posted by coonhunter00 on 05-24-2015 01:53 PM:

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Originally posted by Joel martin
Yea there are guys around here that swear by them. I don't want my dog to have a crutch so to speak wouldn't mind I guess if it help train a pup but then the question is how long is long enough on a pup

If the pup was mine once it got to where it was running/treeing off a bucket to a point that they are making me happy and satisfied let's say a couple months. I would take it to the wild and try to get on some track and start laying some meat out to it. Gradually wean it away from the feeder buckets. Nothing wrong with turning loose on it from time to time.

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Posted by HOBO on 05-24-2015 01:58 PM:

Think it depends on a persons coon pup. if you hunt in thick coon you are more than likely against them, if you hunt in thin coon then you more than likely love them.

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Posted by Fisher13 on 05-24-2015 02:01 PM:

How long can a bucket sit out before it goes bad?

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Posted by Surveyor on 05-24-2015 02:47 PM:

I think we all hunt feeding coon all of the time (except maybe in breeding season when we are hunting rutting coon) . Around here, you head to the wheat fields in early spring, then the mulberry thickets when they get ripe in June, then the corn fields when the ears set on and all through the fall and winter and the Cherry fence rows in late summer because we know the coon will be feeding on them when they get ripe etc. Now if I have a way to bring a food source that coon will consistently feed on right to my back door or my safest and favorite hunting spots so coon will be feeding there year round why in the world would I not want to do that?

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Posted by GA DAWG on 05-24-2015 03:00 PM:

Turned out on one Fri night. Dog treed .81 away. So much for easy pop up coons around feeders here. I keep a couple out specially this time of yr. Its tough hunting right now and in my opinion the hardest time of yr.

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Posted by Slowpoke 2012 on 05-24-2015 04:12 PM:

Feeder Bucket

I use feeder buckets. Mostly for getting a young dog on some hot coon. Also to get me back in bed at a decent hour. When it gets dark at 9:00-9:30pm and you get up for work at 4:30am it sure is nice to make a couple drops on a hot track, tree'em, pet that hound up real good, and get back to the house.

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Posted by HOBO on 05-24-2015 04:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fisher13
How long can a bucket sit out before it goes bad?

Once the coon get to hitting it you don't have to worry about feed going bad. If you're feeding corn soaked in water you want it soured, that really pulls the coon in.

Posted by RLenhart on 05-24-2015 05:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Surveyor
I think we all hunt feeding coon all of the time (except maybe in breeding season when we are hunting rutting coon) . Around here, you head to the wheat fields in early spring, then the mulberry thickets when they get ripe in June, then the corn fields when the ears set on and all through the fall and winter and the Cherry fence rows in late summer because we know the coon will be feeding on them when they get ripe etc. Now if I have a way to bring a food source that coon will consistently feed on right to my back door or my safest and favorite hunting spots so coon will be feeding there year round why in the world would I not want to do that?

There's a huge difference in my eyes between hunting feeding coon and dumping on a feeder. If you continually dump a young dog on feeders without making them work for it they WILL get lazy and want to look for the feeder. I'll take a pup that looks for a corn field or a fence row over one that's looking for buckets any day.

Posted by on 05-24-2015 05:37 PM:

Feeder buckets are a tool to be used like every other tool we use to train our dogs with. Most pups see a caged coon at one point in their life. Some pups are hunted with a pup trainer. Some pups are hauled around and turned out on hot coon. Every method can be done correctly or done wrong. If your using buckets to the extent you have your pups treeing on the bucket tree every turn out without the coon being there your using them wrong. If your using them and your dog won't go past them to strike a coon your using them wrong. Hunting off them will allow you to see where your coon are coming from to eat your feed. Once I get a good handle on that my dog is not turned loose near the bucket but in an area they can and should intercept the coon traveling to the feeder. I will say I have been frustrated sometimes in hunts with buckets. As far as a tool to work pups they can be great. When you turn your pup towards a feeder and it goes past the feeder a half mile and strikes a coon and trees it, you are using them correctly.

Posted by HOBO on 05-24-2015 06:13 PM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
Feeder buckets are a tool to be used like every other tool we use to train our dogs with. Most pups see a caged coon at one point in their life. Some pups are hunted with a pup trainer. Some pups are hauled around and turned out on hot coon. Every method can be done correctly or done wrong. If your using buckets to the extent you have your pups treeing on the bucket tree every turn out without the coon being there your using them wrong. If your using them and your dog won't go past them to strike a coon your using them wrong. Hunting off them will allow you to see where your coon are coming from to eat your feed. Once I get a good handle on that my dog is not turned loose near the bucket but in an area they can and should intercept the coon traveling to the feeder. I will say I have been frustrated sometimes in hunts with buckets. As far as a tool to work pups they can be great. When you turn your pup towards a feeder and it goes past the feeder a half mile and strikes a coon and trees it, you are using them correctly.

Well said Bruce!

Posted by Harry Middleton on 05-24-2015 07:07 PM:

Down here in the swamps in south ga I scatter mine throughout the swamps. When they run dry I leave em dry for a couple of weeks and then when I refill em I move em to a different area in the swamp. It keeps the coons looking around for em and the dogs not use to running to the same spot and expecting a coon. I'm kinda making a game out of it. It's starting to dry up down here and it really helps using feeders in some spots.

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 05-24-2015 10:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Turned out on one Fri night. Dog treed .81 away. So much for easy pop up coons around feeders here. I keep a couple out specially this time of yr. Its tough hunting right now and in my opinion the hardest time of yr.

You need to hold off till about august or September, that way when we get together and go our dogs are equally sorry.

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Posted by sleepy head on 05-25-2015 12:51 AM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
Feeder buckets are a tool to be used like every other tool we use to train our dogs with. Most pups see a caged coon at one point in their life. Some pups are hunted with a pup trainer. Some pups are hauled around and turned out on hot coon. Every method can be done correctly or done wrong. If your using buckets to the extent you have your pups treeing on the bucket tree every turn out without the coon being there your using them wrong. If your using them and your dog won't go past them to strike a coon your using them wrong. Hunting off them will allow you to see where your coon are coming from to eat your feed. Once I get a good handle on that my dog is not turned loose near the bucket but in an area they can and should intercept the coon traveling to the feeder. I will say I have been frustrated sometimes in hunts with buckets. As far as a tool to work pups they can be great. When you turn your pup towards a feeder and it goes past the feeder a half mile and strikes a coon and trees it, you are using them correctly.

How far away are the coon coming to your feeders?

Posted by Joel martin on 05-25-2015 01:14 AM:

Not very far. The feeders are a buddy of mines. I let him put them up cause I was rabbit hunting.now I have got back onto coon hinting also and was always told that if you hunted feeders that's all your dog would know how to hunt. Went last night and dog done nothing until he got to feeder then treed on the feeder bucket its self.

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Posted by on 05-25-2015 01:39 AM:

From two different directions. About 3/4 a mile and that changes as berries grow and wild food sources change. Last year we kept four kitten coon around one feeder several months till they branched out. We have one feeder out in a pond that is in a chop which is cut pine trees. Many times if we see one sitting up we go somewhere else and come back in s couple hours. Depends on which dogs we are hunting and what they need.

Posted by sleepy head on 05-25-2015 01:43 AM:

Interesting thanks for the info guys,I've been thinking of putting up some feeders for pup

Posted by shadinc on 05-25-2015 02:42 AM:

I've been training pups on feeders for years and I've never had a dog that wouldn't pass the feeder and go hunting if there was no coon on the feeder. Most dogs today are bred to go hunting and most of them do.

Posted by walkerman75 on 05-26-2015 06:33 PM:

a feeder is no diferent then a corn field... its still feed. i got some out. an here were i live you need them. coon are thin... but i also hunt my dogs other places too. just becuz there a bucket with food in it dont mean there a coon there. dogs gota hunt .... if you have big corn fields an u can see coon setting up around them all night where do you go turn loose. you do it on the edge of corn field. you dont say well there to easy im gona go turn loose in the middle of nowhere..

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Posted by RLenhart on 05-26-2015 06:52 PM:

They certainly can be a useful tool especially in thin coon "I keep one filled myself" but I've seen more than one guy walk his dog right to the feeder and do it on more than one drop. If you do that very often you WILL get a dog that runs around checking trees for feeders. If you hunt off feeders all the time maybe that's what you want? but for my part I use it "sparingly" as an easy drop from time to time or to take a pup to get a good hot track but I do not let my started dogs see that feeder often enough to go looking for it. Preferably I want to drop him in the general area and hope he crosses a track going in.

Posted by walkerman75 on 05-26-2015 07:03 PM:

if you walk your dog right to feeder an turn loose you dont need a dog just walk in an start looking around... if you hunt a big corn field for 5 nights an tree coons every night in same area your dog will go right to that area an start looking on the sixth night.i aint defending them.. my dogs will hunt with or without them..

Posted by Fisher13 on 05-26-2015 09:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
Once the coon get to hitting it you don't have to worry about feed going bad. If you're feeding corn soaked in water you want it soured, that really pulls the coon in.

I've never had a bucket get emptied, maybe the hole isn't big enough? When it goes sour is it supposed to smell like something rotten or garbage?

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