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Posted by oldsouth43 on 04-07-2014 05:00 AM:

Top pup earning studs and amount earned

Does anyone know the top pup earning stud dogs and the amount of money their pup's have earned.Several of the advertisers use to put this information in their ad's but I haven't seen one lately.I know that Stylish Harry and Sackett Jr.were two of the top ones.Does anyone know their pup earning totals.Also any other studs.

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 04-07-2014 06:42 AM:

Harry 3,184 pups - earnings $781,628.02 .
Track Man 2,654 pups - earnings $553,097.60
Rat Attack 2,518 pups - earnings $1,901,092.09

These figures are as of 3/07/14 off a set of my pups papers all are subject to go up w/ many Harry & Rat semen pups being hunted & Track Man still alive .

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Posted by teamarkansas on 04-07-2014 07:47 AM:

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Posted by RRILEY on 04-07-2014 10:50 AM:

Check out the stud listing for the Mr Moe dog in the tw section of the classifieds. He is in the top five of both spring and fall 1 year old divisions and all of his information is posted. Top reproducer with nothing to hide. No smoke, no hype, just plain ol facts!

Posted by Dwils on 04-07-2014 05:35 PM:

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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
Harry 3,184 pups - earnings $781,628.02 .
Track Man 2,654 pups - earnings $553,097.60
Rat Attack 2,518 pups - earnings $1,901,092.09

These figures are as of 3/07/14 off a set of my pups papers all are subject to go up w/ many Harry & Rat semen pups being hunted & Track Man still alive .

Man for rat throwing so many slick treers they sure did make a lot of money (sarcasm)

Impressive

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Posted by Wes Coffman on 04-07-2014 05:45 PM:

For the life of me I don't understand why the $KC does not post a reproducers list like UKC.

Posted by blackflagginit on 04-07-2014 08:01 PM:

the real question is does it even matter???

idk, ive thrown every set of pkc papers that ever came with a dog in the trash can, just like the akc ones.

the ukc titles and papers are still considered the "real" ones

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Posted by corey ryan on 04-07-2014 08:04 PM:

Black flag that is your opinion I pay more attention to the PKC papers myself. My personal opinion is the PKC have the better dogs.

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Posted by corey ryan on 04-07-2014 08:53 PM:

2 of the top reproduces right now are Mojo and Bone Collector. Both are throwing winners in all the KC's

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Posted by snowcreekkennel on 04-07-2014 09:15 PM:

I agree with cory ryan I pay more attention to pkc than ukc. I like both but pkc suits me better seems like yu would have more crooks and cheats but I find it just the opposite. Just my opinion theres good and bad everywhere. Not trying to steal the thread.

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Posted by Jeff Ashmore on 04-07-2014 09:43 PM:

Off Harry alone

If they averaged 10 pups a litter that is over 319 bitches bred. You are bound to get something out of that many good females. You won't average that many pups a litter.

That is alot of pups.

Just thinking about it, Jeff

Posted by Jeff Ashmore on 04-07-2014 09:43 PM:

Off Harry alone

Posted by Dwils on 04-07-2014 09:48 PM:

Re: Off Harry alone

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Ashmore
If they averaged 10 pups a litter that is over 319 bitches bred. You are bound to get something out of that many good females. You won't average that many pups a litter.

That is alot of pups.

Just thinking about it, Jeff

Makes you wonder what happens to all the others . Thousands of hound pups born each year and only a handful ratio turn out . Coonhound breeders aren't doing good enough!!

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Posted by DylanHovey on 04-07-2014 10:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blackflagginit
the real question is does it even matter???

idk, ive thrown every set of pkc papers that ever came with a dog in the trash can, just like the akc ones.

the ukc titles and papers are still considered the "real" ones

WHAT FACTS DO YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS?????

Posted by DylanHovey on 04-07-2014 10:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blackflagginit
the real question is does it even matter???

idk, ive thrown every set of pkc papers that ever came with a dog in the trash can, just like the akc ones.

the ukc titles and papers are still considered the "real" ones

Are you saying, that the dogs that hunt in $KC aren't any good? If it was so easy why aren't you coming to get this FREE $$$ out of our poor little pockets.

Posted by elvis on 04-07-2014 11:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DylanHovey
Are you saying, that the dogs that hunt in $KC aren't any good? If it was so easy why aren't you coming to get this FREE $$$ out of our poor little pockets.

Its the same dogs.
$kc has always been a lil to clickish to suit me but whatever floats your boat is fine with me.

Posted by Jackson87 on 04-07-2014 11:03 PM:

LoL.Im gettin the popcorn.Everybody claims Pkc dogs are better but why are there scores always very low or minus ????A dog is a dog and I don't believe they care what registry they hunt in.

Posted by yadkintar on 04-07-2014 11:32 PM:

My question is every one asks how much money a stud dogs pups have won what I would like to know is how much money have they won on circle or minus points instead of plus points what would that do to there percentages

Posted by vernonsdream on 04-08-2014 12:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by blackflagginit
the real question is does it even matter???

idk, ive thrown every set of pkc papers that ever came with a dog in the trash can, just like the akc ones.

the ukc titles and papers are still considered the "real" ones

lol

Posted by rockett42 on 04-08-2014 01:00 AM:

dogs

Yadkintar, very, very few win with minus points. All you people that talk this crap, just bring your ole plus point hound and take all the money home. It should be real easy...

Posted by DylanHovey on 04-08-2014 07:41 AM:

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Originally posted by yadkintar
My question is every one asks how much money a stud dogs pups have won what I would like to know is how much money have they won on circle or minus points instead of plus points what would that do to there percentages

Most UKC hunts I've been to... everybody is trying to circle up knots and birdnests and plussing spider eyes. Maybe thats why the points are higher in UKC??? IDK!

That's just how it is around here. I'm not gonna say I haven't been to a UKC hunt and drawed a nice dog because I have. But the vast majority of dog work in these local UKC hunts is laughable. Those dogs in those hunts cannot compete even in the $25 weeknight hunts.

THATS IN MY AREA! Im not trying to run down UKC or the people that hunt them. I know alot of good dog men that hunt strictly UKC.

But, don't insinuate that because a dog won a little money with circle points that it's not a nice dog. I've seen ALOT of TOP NOTCH dogs win some casts with circle points or minus. They all are going to have bad nights no matter how nice they are, but there is always going to be a winner. And everybody hates a winner.

Posted by yadkintar on 04-08-2014 12:22 PM:

Ok I will explain ukc when they put the winners in the back of the bloodlines they put the scores also the other kennel clubs when the do post there scores there often really low that's all I got to go by I hunt in all kennel clubs enjoy them all only difference is I stay home till I get somthing that can win hunts with plus points concistantly anybody that knows me will tell you that as I said in another post I am hunting a ntch female now but she's not dominant enough for me to want to compete with after all this is a ukc board if you want to rubb knuckles with the big boys get on the other Board and y'all can get all bubbly about it

Posted by Dwils on 04-08-2014 12:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson87
LoL.Im gettin the popcorn.Everybody claims Pkc dogs are better but why are there scores always very low or minus ????A dog is a dog and I don't believe they care what registry they hunt in.

Scores are often lower because scoring system is different , you usually recast for most the hunt and don't spot hunt , and often times you can't spot hunt because you won't find all 4 dogs on the same tree so you can call a timeout . Usually a bunch of split trees

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Posted by purk on 04-08-2014 01:34 PM:

Scores

Good point dwills 1st and 1st tree 200 in pkc 1st and 1st 225 in ukc then with the count down on tree a dog can get 25 points on tree for there dog being second to tree . I did this by mistake as had first strike in a pkc hunt my dog located tree and I laid back as start of hunt playing safe. I wanted to take second tree One cast member requested to walk so as we walked time ran out treed for 50 points even though second tree Cost me a tie and lost cast I have been to spring classic in ohio and witness big pkc scores

Pkc also does somewhat post reproducer list as earings of pups in junior , spring , senior , super stakes standings This is a current way to check but would be nice to see easier way to check reproducer list

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 04-08-2014 05:16 PM:

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Originally posted by blackflagginit
the real question is does it even matter???

idk, ive thrown every set of pkc papers that ever came with a dog in the trash can, just like the akc ones.

the ukc titles and papers are still considered the "real" ones

To each his own ... If your gonna keep the dog forever I guess it doesn't even matter , but if you ever planning on selling any of those dogs you just threw away part of it's proper regristration & parentage . Those dogs can always be singled registered but typically guys bring a copy of there ukc papers & pkc is gonna tell them that it's already reg & you just put them in a pickle .
As a coonhunter you should be supportive of all registries whether you hunt in them or not . Many of the better dogs I hunt against in pkc are already GRNITECH & them like me enjoy the compitition aspect of the sport . There is not much fun involved in hunting in a GRNITE cast alone - and other than RQE's or a few bigger hunts that's how it is . When the UKC WORLD HUNT was taking place the PKC moderaters put up a good luck thread on their message board they & many others rooted on their fellow hunters - I personally thought that was class act .

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