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Posted by Sawblade on 01-07-2014 05:07 PM:

High Tans

I was wondering if anyone ever see's any of the old high tan looking redbones. I'm not talking about the Black and Tan ones that show up here and there . I mean the redbone that has a black or very dark brown "saddle' between their shoulders and hips. I remember seeing one when I was a kid. but have not seen one in many years.
Danny ,do you have any pictures of one?

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Posted by RED REBELS on 01-07-2014 06:37 PM:

I had one, sold her to a b&t man in IL, she accidentally got bred, and lost it after giving birth. I will look to see if I can find pics of her younger and older, her son also had onethat was kind of nnoticeable.

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Posted by RED REBELS on 01-07-2014 09:13 PM:

here are some pics
Ruby (female from me) is on the right here, my walker is in the middle and Beef (pup out of Ruby) is on the left

Ms Ruby

Beef, climbing on a lap

Ruby at 5/6 weeks

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Posted by Emily on 01-08-2014 05:48 PM:

At one time in the distant past, when UKC coonhound breeds were just sorting out, there was actually a move afoot to have a breed called "saddleback" that ws that coloration. I'll go back to my history books and see if I can find some names and dates and bloodlines. I've seen pix of dogs that were almost as strongly saddled as some bloodhounds are.

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Posted by oklared on 01-08-2014 06:50 PM:

SADDLEBACKS WERE FAIRLY COMMON MANY YRS AGO BUT THAT HAS BEEN BASICLY BRED OUT, THE PICS ABOVE IS NOT A SADDLE BACK

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Posted by RON WOLTER on 01-08-2014 10:12 PM:

SADDEL BACKS

Don - I agree with u , {{ that is not a saddle back }}

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Posted by RED REBELS on 01-09-2014 01:46 AM:

She is not a full saddle back, agreed, but she had the reminents of it... That dark red saddle didn't come from nowhere

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Posted by oklared on 01-11-2014 03:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by RED REBELS
She is not a full saddle back, agreed, but she had the reminents of it... That dark red saddle didn't come from nowhere

THE KEY IS "DARK RED SADDLE" A SADDLE BACK HAS A BLACK SADDLE AND IS MORE A BROWN COLOR

Posted by david siders on 01-11-2014 04:22 AM:

saddle back black and tan

I have owned a few in my day but you don't see many any more, but that was back when there were a lot more cross bred hounds around, now mostly pure bred hounds,

Posted by Crazy Luke on 01-11-2014 02:00 PM:

Saddleback

Is the saddleback found in bloodhounds? I think I can remember seeing some somewhere....Danny McClesky where are you... Walking encyclopedia of redbone info...

Posted by WattsFlatsRedbo on 01-11-2014 02:15 PM:

I've done a little reading on the origin of the redbone breed in the past. What I had read was that our breed had started with the cross of the Bloodhound and the English foxhound and a Irish hound was later crossed in as well. What I read said that the saddleback coloring in some dogs came from the Bloodhound and that the white that showed up in some came from the Irish hound. Also the explaination for why Black and Tans show up sometimes was because the Redbone and Black and Tan came from basically the same origin.

Anyone who has some expierence in breeding knows how things like this can skip SEVERAL generations and pop back up years later out of no where. Also we all know ALL coonhound breeds have probally been crossbred many times in the past as well so maybe its just that that causes these things to pop back up too.

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Posted by Sawblade on 01-11-2014 05:42 PM:

Don't see them

It is something I have been wondering about. We still see Black and Tan redbones and we see redbones with big white bumpers but you never see the Saddleback High Tans anymore. I would love o see a living one again. I agree the pics are not saddlebacks. he dogs I remember were lighter red and black saddles with little bit of red hairs all thru . You can still find Bloodhounds with this kind of makings.

Posted by oklared on 01-11-2014 08:34 PM:

IT LIKE MOST OF WHITE COLOR HAS BEEN BRED OUT OF THE COON HOUNDS

Posted by wade lucking on 01-12-2014 01:31 AM:

I will have to dig but I got a couple

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Posted by RedbrookKennels on 01-14-2014 04:13 PM:

High Tans/Saddlebacks

I currently have a male dog that we kept out of a litter we raised. He is a high tan. He is 3 now.. and he is an awesome coonhound. Both parents were registered Redbones.

Posted by nickkauffman on 01-14-2014 04:23 PM:

Re: High Tans/Saddlebacks

quote:
Originally posted by RedbrookKennels
I currently have a male dog that we kept out of a litter we raised. He is a high tan. He is 3 now.. and he is an awesome coonhound. Both parents were registered Redbones.

I sure would like to see a picture

Posted by Sawblade on 01-14-2014 04:51 PM:

Cool

Lets see a pic. Keep in mind the old high tans had no black on their neck or heads, those are Black and Tan redbones. The black would be only on their back and sides.

Posted by RedbrookKennels on 01-14-2014 07:49 PM:

Pics

I dont know how to post pis on here.
I have plenty of him to share... on the tree and fighting coon on the ground.
Tell me how to post.

Posted by nickkauffman on 01-17-2014 03:21 AM:

SOMEONE TELL HIM HOW.. I DON'T KNOW EITHER.. AND ITS DRIVING ME CRAZY..

Posted by Sawblade on 01-20-2014 05:28 PM:

tech expert

I'm no tech expert , my kids post em for me. sorry

Posted by Danny McCleskey on 01-20-2014 06:25 PM:

Kelly,
When I am looking thru the old magazines and if I see one I will post it. I'm sure there is one some where.

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Posted by RED REBELS on 01-20-2014 07:55 PM:

You can email them to me at lizziehounds@gmail.com and I can post them foryyou

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Posted by jdgher on 01-21-2014 08:03 AM:

Posting Pictures

Posting pictures. You first have to post them on another site. I use Hunt101.com. Once posted there, you copy the link for the picture and paste the link on here. There use to be detailed instructions on this message board, I can't find them now.

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Posted by Danny McCleskey on 01-23-2014 09:57 PM:

Posting Pictures

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928282317

Posted by RedbrookKennels on 01-24-2014 01:27 PM:

High-Tans and Stuff

Thank you for the information!
It helped considerably.
Here is a few pics of my male high tan/saddleback.
I will post a pic of his littermate sister too.. she is solid Red.

His Litter mate Sister...

Having some fun with my Jack Russell... Lucy.

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