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Posted by DROPTINE on 03-21-2012 11:58 PM:

Htx Titles Should Have To Come First

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UKC MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT BEFORE A DOG CAN BE TITLED SHOW OR NITE CHAMPION IT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE FIRST THAT IT CAN TREE A REAL LIVE COON BY ITSELF LETS SEE HOW MANY CAN DO IT OR LETS COME OUT WITH A NEW MAGAZINE TITLED HTX STUDS BET IT WONT BE SO MANY TO CHOSE FROM LOL

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Posted by smokin-1-mo on 03-22-2012 01:10 AM:

IS THAT THE ANSWER TO GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO HUNTS....


Posted by Phantom on 03-22-2012 01:20 AM:

Is all of your dogs htx titled? If not why aren't they since you think it should be mandatory.

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Posted by grwaskom on 03-22-2012 02:27 AM:

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UKC MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT BEFORE A DOG CAN BE TITLED SHOW OR NITE CHAMPION IT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE FIRST THAT IT CAN TREE A REAL LIVE COON BY ITSELF

agree 100% to many counterfit nt and grnt ch

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Posted by Huntinwalkers on 03-22-2012 02:46 AM:

Re: Htx Titles Should Have To Come First

quote:
Originally posted by DROPTINE
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UKC MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT BEFORE A DOG CAN BE TITLED SHOW OR NITE CHAMPION IT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE FIRST THAT IT CAN TREE A REAL LIVE COON BY ITSELF LETS SEE HOW MANY CAN DO IT OR LETS COME OUT WITH A NEW MAGAZINE TITLED HTX STUDS BET IT WONT BE SO MANY TO CHOSE FROM LOL


i would agree 100% but we will need to have more htx hunts available in are area thats for sure i couldnt afford to drive across the country to htx my dog and then drive all over to hunt it in the hunts, one thing is for sure at least it would slow down the meeee toooo idiots from being titled!!


Posted by John A on 03-22-2012 02:52 AM:

I couldnt agree more


Posted by bob logan on 03-22-2012 02:57 AM:

htx

make them dogs tree coon by themselfs then you will see how many stud dogs are really out there. htx frist before comp. hunted sounds like a good way to go.


Posted by WVBackwoods22 on 03-22-2012 03:08 AM:

Totaly agree 100%.

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Posted by Jonathan Crump on 03-22-2012 03:12 AM:

Agree 100%

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Posted by Giveem3outdoors on 03-22-2012 03:14 AM:

agree 100%

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Posted by LittleMtkennel on 03-22-2012 03:38 AM:

Agree and would be nice if there was some type of performance progarm with it too.

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Posted by Gabe Webb on 03-22-2012 03:50 AM:

HTX b4 titled

I also agree

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Posted by Dirtdevil on 03-22-2012 03:55 AM:

That's what the anti's and politicians do to us and yall don't like it ..... they think they know what's best for others and force it on them .


People die and have died so that nobody can force us to do stuff we don't want to ... and yall dig it when the shoe fits ...


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Posted by smokin-1-mo on 03-22-2012 04:22 AM:

ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN,IT WOULD KILL THE BIG SHOWS AND HUNTS AND THEREFORE KILL UKC.....WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO OUR LOCAL HUNTS....IF YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN WHO CARES WHAT THE OTHER GUY BRINGS...I DONT..

ONE OTHER THING WHAT WOULD IT BENIFIT ANYONE......


Posted by Jack Bingham on 03-22-2012 04:26 AM:

this thread is a joke. How many of your dogs could compete in Registered, Nitech or Grand nite cast with competition. All of my dogs have earned there titles honestly throw yours in a cast to where they have to compete then come talk to me.

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Posted by Harry Plotter on 03-22-2012 04:33 AM:

Re: Htx Titles Should Have To Come First

quote:
Originally posted by DROPTINE
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UKC MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT BEFORE A DOG CAN BE TITLED SHOW OR NITE CHAMPION IT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE FIRST THAT IT CAN TREE A REAL LIVE COON BY ITSELF LETS SEE HOW MANY CAN DO IT OR LETS COME OUT WITH A NEW MAGAZINE TITLED HTX STUDS BET IT WONT BE SO MANY TO CHOSE FROM LOL


why. what would that prove. all those conterfeit dogs would still get a htx. so what would change. if you think they cheat or are conterfeit what you think they couldn't get a few buddies to judge them at their local club. it's amazing how jealous people think. if i can't win someone should change the rules. i am entitled.


Posted by BB&LKennels on 03-22-2012 04:34 AM:

Re: htx

quote:
Originally posted by bob logan
make them dogs tree coon by themselfs then you will see how many stud dogs are really out there. htx frist before comp. hunted sounds like a good way to go.
all i can say you guy's know that just because your dog can tree a coon by it's self don't mean crap when it come's to comp hunting. what will you say when you get beat then ?that me too dog beat me,wrong ....remember they treed a coon by there self,good old htx that is really a joke. the best dog can be beat on any given day.all you guy's are going to do is kill the coon club's. i guess it is easy for you guy's to only have to hunt against 3 dog's,intsead of 6or 7 cast. you all must have alot of money if you can afford to do all that running around. just because your dog passes the htx don't mean that you will ever make it a nite or grandnite. JMO, GO AHEAD AND KILL THE LOCAL COON CLUB'S. HTX REALLY SOUND'S LIKE THE WAY TO GO....


Posted by Chris Sterrett on 03-22-2012 04:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Bingham
this thread is a joke. How many of your dogs could compete in Registered, Nitech or Grand nite cast with competition. All of my dogs have earned there titles honestly throw yours in a cast to where they have to compete then come talk to me.



I agree! I go pleasure hunting when I want one on one time with dog, and go to competition hunts for Competition.

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Posted by jackbob42 on 03-22-2012 04:40 AM:

Re: htx

quote:
Originally posted by bob logan
make them dogs tree coon by themselfs then you will see how many stud dogs are really out there.


IF you're the one paying to breed a female , YOU should hunt with the stud anyway. Not count on some title to do your homework for you.

Breeding to a dog just because of it's title , is CHEAP. No matter what title that dog carries.

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Posted by Harry Plotter on 03-22-2012 04:51 AM:

Re: Re: htx

quote:
Originally posted by jackbob42
IF you're the one paying to breed a female , YOU should hunt with the stud anyway. Not count on some title to do your homework for you.

Breeding to a dog just because of it's title , is CHEAP. No matter what title that dog carries.



a world champion title would be the exception. but i agree on both of your points.


Posted by Nat Thomas on 03-22-2012 05:01 AM:

Another htx thread.... yay.


Posted by goodtimekennel on 03-22-2012 05:12 AM:

I have owned lots of dogs that could have been htx. champion that I would not breed or want a pup off of. htx means nothing to me.

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Posted by l.lyle on 03-22-2012 05:28 AM:

I may be mistaken but I beleive it was last week on here anouncement about a GR NT CH HTX 6 or 7 had died.

I don't think anything should be required other than accurate papers to comp hunt a dog.

I pleasure hunt. I pack hunt my dogs mostly till one starts treeing a few times with another dog. Then I hunt it at least one drop by him/herself to let her do it all by herself. After she gets 4 or 5 by herself it's back in the pack because I have a good many dogs and I like pack races. I would not hesitate to put any one of my dogs that far along in an HTX hunt and dang well expect a pass.

If and I say IF I had a NTCH which I do not, I would expect to pass HTX no doubt about it.

I see HTX being scattered times and far off as limiting. The only way I would do it is my local club have one.

I agree titles is lazy way to choose a stud but I also believe a stud is any dog that has accurate papers and a fellow wants to breed his dog to. If she catches he is a stud pure and simple. My dogs have no titles but my males breed about a hlf dozen bitches a year because they have been hunted with. Mine are not too valuable to hunt.

To sumarize: I don't think HTX should be required but if an HTX is close by it probably says more about the dog that is scared to get entered than it does about the ones that pass the test.


Posted by Harry Plotter on 03-22-2012 06:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by l.lyle
I may be mistaken but I beleive it was last week on here anouncement about a GR NT CH HTX 6 or 7 had died.

I don't think anything should be required other than accurate papers to comp hunt a dog.

I pleasure hunt. I pack hunt my dogs mostly till one starts treeing a few times with another dog. Then I hunt it at least one drop by him/herself to let her do it all by herself. After she gets 4 or 5 by herself it's back in the pack because I have a good many dogs and I like pack races. I would not hesitate to put any one of my dogs that far along in an HTX hunt and dang well expect a pass.

If and I say IF I had a NTCH which I do not, I would expect to pass HTX no doubt about it.

I see HTX being scattered times and far off as limiting. The only way I would do it is my local club have one.

I agree titles is lazy way to choose a stud but I also believe a stud is any dog that has accurate papers and a fellow wants to breed his dog to. If she catches he is a stud pure and simple. My dogs have no titles but my males breed about a hlf dozen bitches a year because they have been hunted with. Mine are not too valuable to hunt.

To sumarize: I don't think HTX should be required but if an HTX is close by it probably says more about the dog that is scared to get entered than it does about the ones that pass the test.



you are usually spot on. but htx don't say nothing except someone wanted to pay the money to get it. it's not a bad program and hopefully is a gateway for more people to get interested in competing with their trusty coon treeing dog. but to say someone is scared is way off base. what is the difference of going to breed to a htx dog or actually going hunting with the stud and seeing him in real life tree coons without making a slick. it's peoples own money to do what they want but if you like competition the htx isn't gonna appeal to most of them. they'd rather hunt a dog by itself preparing it to win against competition than pay to have someone vouch for it being able to tree a coon by itself.


Posted by DERICK GOLDMAN on 03-22-2012 06:28 AM:

its funny to me how alot of people claim that all these titles are fixed or fake, and i agree some of them are. i have a nt ch and will have a grand nt before summer is up god willing but this is how she wins cast, she gets by herself at least once and usually a few times gets hooked and has a coon to look at when the cast gets there. So anybody who claims that most of the titles are a fraud come on down and ill show you one that aint. as far as the htx being mandatory that wont happen there are not enough of them. ok im done ranting now

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