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Posted by Autumn Clements on 01-25-2011 01:24 AM:

Running Dogs on Treadmills

For all those who run there dogs on treadmills, how long do you usually run them at a time? and what speed do you run them at?

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Posted by CSnowgren on 01-25-2011 01:27 AM:

What kind of treadmill? I am assuming an electric?

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Posted by Jack Bingham on 01-25-2011 02:01 AM:

i OWN A SLAT MILL and we run our dogs on it to keep them in shape when we are not hunting. it is self propelled so the speed is set by the dog. The lenght of time we start out at 10-15 min and go up we have some that will run 45 min. at 9 miles per hour. It all depends on the dog I don't like tread mills because if they want to stop and you are not watching them it will burn the pads on there feet.

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Posted by Joes reticks on 01-25-2011 02:13 AM:

Can you

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Originally posted by Jack Bingham i OWN A SLAT MILL and we run our dogs on it to keep them in shape when we are not hunting. it is self propelled so the speed is set by the dog. The lenght of time we start out at 10-15 min and go up we have some that will run 45 min. at 9 miles per hour. It all depends on the dog I don't like tread mills because if they want to stop and you are not watching them it will burn the pads on there feet.
can you post a pic off yous slat mill and what makes the dogs run if they are lazzy? im not woried about not being there if im there they will be on the mill if not they will be off it on a leash buy me or in there pen or dog bow. Also how much do these cost im thinking doing it to woud save on gas when i cant hunt um .

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Posted by CSnowgren on 01-25-2011 02:27 AM:

Slat mill is the way to go. I am not a fan of electric treadmills at all. One, for the reason Jack mentioned, and the other is that if the dog pulls/tweaks a muscle, he is still forced to run and chances are great that he will make it worse. A slat mill is an exceptional tool to bring a dog to the peak of conditioning, even during spring/summer and fall so that he will be at his absolute state of physical readiness for competition. Done right, he will be blowing the doors off the competition on those last drops when the hunt is close. And for those late rounds, it can be what seperates the men from the boys.

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Posted by hootchandjaws on 01-25-2011 02:35 AM:

runnig

I don't use anything like that I just run them down the road 2 or 3 days a week at what speed they want to run my older dogs run about 20 mph for 4 miles. just hang the lease out the window my pup runs by truck he runs about 6 miles but he is very hiper


Posted by Traxx Addict on 01-25-2011 02:48 AM:

To those who own and use slat mills.....

Many states consider slat mills to be "dog fighting paraphenalia" and merely having one in your possession can result in you being charged with a felony or misdemeanor.

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Posted by Kris Cisna on 01-25-2011 02:53 AM:

E-mills are ok at best but a slat mill can't be beat! Slat mills are not cheap by any means. The best tread mill I have seen can be found on dogtrotter.net

Conditioning a dog is science and not something to be half arsed. Anyone who doesn't take conditioning serious.... doesn't understand what conditioning honestly is.


Posted by CSnowgren on 01-25-2011 03:31 AM:

Autumn Clements, you can use an e-mill. Make your sets shorter and at a slower pace and keep an eye on them. Unless you own bulldogs, I don't think you'll have much to worry about as far as paraphenalia goes. They are a legit tool for most any performance dog. In order for it to be considered the p word, other things must accompany it. You can build your own for a fraction of the cost. But anyway, our dogs should be conditioned for anarobic activity and not aerobic. Anarobic activity most closely resembles what a coonhound does.......period of intense work followed by a period of less intense work and repeat. In order to achieve maximum conditioning levels, one should train the way they "play" sorta speak. There is a ton more to it but if you are looking for general conditioning, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest that about 30 minutes of aerobic activity is the maximum with which a dog can achieve a level of conditioning expected from that type of conditioning. Any more and it isn't a waste of time but time could be better spent. Start with about 8-10 minutes and work your way up to the 30 minutes just to be safe.

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Posted by matt k on 01-25-2011 04:09 AM:

google GRAND CARPET MILL.


Posted by Kris Cisna on 01-25-2011 04:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by matt k
google GRAND CARPET MILL.


Last I knew his mills wouldn't accommodate taller dogs.


Posted by matt k on 01-25-2011 04:22 AM:

they make 3 different sizes


Posted by Dogwhisper on 01-25-2011 04:40 PM:

Rest period between anaerobic exercise anyone know how long for a hound?
2-3 days ?


Posted by Hazel Hill Blueticks on 01-26-2011 07:47 AM:

Just put them in the woods 5 nights a week, they will get enough exercise.

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Posted by Jay Bird 76 on 01-26-2011 09:23 AM:

Best thing to do is put your running shoes on and take the dog for a walk/jog a few days a week. My hound and I are running 10 miles 3 times a week in addition to hunting....he loves it and we both get the benefits..


Posted by on 01-26-2011 01:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CSnowgren
Slat mill is the way to go. I am not a fan of electric treadmills at all. One, for the reason Jack mentioned, and the other is that if the dog pulls/tweaks a muscle, he is still forced to run and chances are great that he will make it worse. A slat mill is an exceptional tool to bring a dog to the peak of conditioning, even during spring/summer and fall so that he will be at his absolute state of physical readiness for competition. Done right, he will be blowing the doors off the competition on those last drops when the hunt is close. And for those late rounds, it can be what seperates the men from the boys.
how did i know i would see you on this post thought you fell of the face of the earth lol call or text some time (567)215-7183


Posted by CSnowgren on 01-26-2011 03:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JOE MCAVOY
how did i know i would see you on this post thought you fell of the face of the earth lol call or text some time (567)215-7183


I'll hit you up. Enjoying the western Iowa life, plenty of coon, plenty of land, and good people.

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Posted by CSnowgren on 01-26-2011 03:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dogwhisper
Rest period between anaerobic exercise anyone know how long for a hound?
2-3 days ?



24 hrs is usually sufficient if you are feeding a quality feed with a minimum of 30/20. Depending on how you do it though, 48 hours would be best after an especially tough workout. I usually do a maximum of 5-7 minutes between sets of an easy walkout. They key is to keep them moving between sets, don't let them lay down. Work, work, work! This most closely resembles the process of a hunt. Intense work-less intense work, intense work-less intense work, and repeat. It takes about 5 -6 sets though to get the recovery where I want to see it. Good luck.

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 01-26-2011 04:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jay Bird 76
Best thing to do is put your running shoes on and take the dog for a walk/jog a few days a week. My hound and I are running 10 miles 3 times a week in addition to hunting....he loves it and we both get the benefits..


There is only 1 good reason to run ... large carnivores! Otherwise, there are more interesting means of excercise.

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Posted by coondogman on 01-26-2011 05:19 PM:

QUESTIONS

is there a difference between a slat mill and the one made by grand carpet mill,,does a dog naturally want to run on one of these things. And what if the dog doesnt want to run on one do you or can you force one to run ?????

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Posted by CSnowgren on 01-26-2011 06:25 PM:

A slat mill and a carpet mill are two different animals. One is essentially for aerobic work and the other is for anarobic(sp) work. Many dogs will curl their toes in and not move on one at first, it scares them. Especially if you try and use one with an older dog that has never seen one. But, I haven't met a dog yet that I haven't been able to get to run one. Once they know not to be afraid, they usually take off on them like its a party. To really up the level of intensity, use a coon hide or tail and stand in front of them. Be extremely careful as you can really screw a dog up on one if you don't know what you are doing. But, at the same time, you'd be surprised at how much work you can get out of a dog, much more than an average or even a long night of hunting. A two hour hunt can be a cake walk for them while the competition is huffing and puffing the rest of the night after the 2nd drop. But they will swear that their dog isn't running hot and they feed the absolute best feed out there. lol

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Posted by Autumn Clements on 01-26-2011 07:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by B McGill
Just put them in the woods 5 nights a week, they will get enough exercise.

Dont worry I do hunt them, but with snow on the ground and -20 C coons aren't moving. Keeping a dog in shape isn't a issue, once the snow melts and coons get on the move.



I have a treadmill that I can put them put them on and I know theres some people out there that do use them to keep there dogs in shape is why I asked.

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Posted by coondogman on 01-26-2011 11:29 PM:

DIFFERENCE

quote:
Originally posted by CSnowgren
A slat mill and a carpet mill are two different animals. One is essentially for aerobic work and the other is for anarobic(sp) work. Many dogs will curl their toes in and not move on one at first, it scares them. Especially if you try and use one with an older dog that has never seen one. But, I haven't met a dog yet that I haven't been able to get to run one. Once they know not to be afraid, they usually take off on them like its a party. To really up the level of intensity, use a coon hide or tail and stand in front of them. Be extremely careful as you can really screw a dog up on one if you don't know what you are doing. But, at the same time, you'd be surprised at how much work you can get out of a dog, much more than an average or even a long night of hunting. A two hour hunt can be a cake walk for them while the competition is huffing and puffing the rest of the night after the 2nd drop. But they will swear that their dog isn't running hot and they feed the absolute best feed out there. lol


Difference what is the difference between aerobic and anarobic, how would you screw one up ??

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Posted by Dogwhisper on 01-27-2011 12:33 AM:

Aerobic equates to a "long distant" runner as in a marathon runner.Strenght training.
Anarobic to a "short distant" runner as in a sprinter requireing quick burst of energy.Muscle building.

If u don't know how to "read" your dog you won't know when it needs to rest/replenish itself.
And just because it hangs it tongue out cooling itself is not an all inclusive indicator.
Once u find the dogs gait u will see what is meant.


Posted by coondogman on 01-27-2011 12:46 AM:

OH OKKKKK

Thanks !!!!!!!!

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