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have a young black male that just cant get it through his thick stubborn head to load any ideas?

Every dog I have ever taught to load that wouldn't I would hang them from their leash as I threw them into the dog box. Believe me it doesn't take but 2 or 3 times. Start by picking youre dog up and putting him in the dog box and petting him but if that doesn't work then try what I do.

try feeding him in there, giving him the command before letting him get in...little smokies tossed into the box after teasing a dog with them has never failed for me...a little more 'dog friendly' approach, lol although I have definitely used the previously mentioned method a few times out of frustration...

There are several different ways you can teach them to load. Most I'd say do what treberta does. You might have better luck taking the box out of the truck and getting the dog use to loading into the bed of the truck then add the dogbox. If you have a place where you can back your truck up to that isn't as high for the dog to have to jump helps some also. Usually after a few hunts and the dogs figure out that going hunting and chewing on a coon is FUN they will start to load on their own.

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currious... does the dog have access to the top of a box he beds in? My dad always has problems with his kenneled dogs and he has the boxes on the outside of the kennels. I had my boxes inside the kennels so they would lay on them to "lounge in the sun" and all loaded with ease.

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i tell my dog to load up once and if he don't i pick him up by the collar and by the tail and throw him in they seem to catch on quick.

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i tell my dog to load up once and if he don't i pick him up by the collar and by the tail and throw him in they seem to catch on quick.

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I used to think you could teach any dog to load. I have a male that's 4 1/2 years old...he wont load no matter what you do. Strange thing is, his dad was the same exact way. He loves the dog box, and will stand up on the tailgate with his front paws but that's it. Some just dont like to jump up on a tailgate.

pick him up and sling him in there and say load...he will get the idea to load or get thrown in

its the part of jumpin up that has him troubled . this always works and you dont have to manhandle a dog . start with a picnic table or so on ,get the dog to jump up on to the seating spot first then keep doing that then get him to jumpin on top it wont take long and it saves on your back and body . IT WORKS if you are willing to take a little time.

never tried that tim might have to try it...Lady just naturaly loads so she just had to learn load...

I think HOBO is right, not saying the rougher approach doesn't work. I just had better luck teaching with food and backing up to road ditches and praising them when they get in. I noticed that when I used the rougher approach it seemed to backfire. Once they know what you want and don't do it, that's when I get em in there and not real gentle like neither.

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blue style has the right idea take the box off the truck and feed him in it make it a pleasureable thing to be in the box. hanging him by his leash is just wrong thats not training him anything but hatred for the box.
after feeding him in the box for a week put box back on the truck put his feed in and put him on the tail gate do this for a few days and your loading problem will be gone everyonce in a while give him a treat for getting in the box. hanging him by the leash and muscleing him into the box borders on duwnright cruelty

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I used to have the same problem. What I did was made a short platform about 2' tall out of cinder blocks and a small piece of plywood. I would lead her up to it and gently pull her up and say "up" at the same time. I did this for 2 or 3 days and then raised the platform. I think they are intimidated by the height of the tailgate. If you can get them to jump up on something short and gradually increase height they will not notice the change, and after about a week and a half will jump into the truck bed. It may take a little longer, but you won't be jerking your dog around.

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I have actually had a couple of dogs that learned by tying them to the fence and watch as I told the older dog to load. I tell them to load as pups and young dogs and help load them. Then it gets to a point where they have had enough coaching I go to the "launching method." The collar and tail method and lauching them into the box works much quicker that playing with them to learn how to load. Its ironic how one minute they don't know how to load and after a couple of "launches" they are loading on the command to load. I work it the other way also. How many times have you gotten close to the truck and a dog about yanks your arm out of socket when he "launches" on his own. I yank them back out of the box and make them stay until told to load.

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I've just got to ask this " if your dog won't jump-up on a tailgate how does he get acrossed a woven wire cattle fence ? " something to think about

If the dog is haveing difficulty jumping. Teach the dog to "JUMP" first.
I spend 5 min. teaching a pup to load.
Repetition,all 5 min. worth
In and out, in and out, in and out etc. all 5 min. worth.
Done.
Next pup.

I always make mine load WITHOUT the leash. That way when I pull them back far enough to make it into the truck it's like a dual command.

I say "load up" and unsnap the leash at the same time.

They know not to try and load with a leash on, and they know to load on command. Works pretty good for me.

As far as getting them to load the first time, I wait until I KNOW they are physically able to load before I start. Since I have been physically picking them up and putting them on the tailgate and having them to go on in since they were tiny they have the idea already.

Then I unsnap the lead and give the command. At the exact instant I unsnap the lead I pull them foward and up with their collar, so they are running by the time we get to the launching point and pick them up by the collar. They automatically assist so they don't get choked because they already know they are going in the box since they have been doing it already and after about two or three times I'm not giving any pressure at all with the collar. Then I just use command only.

Works pretty good for me. I am sure one day I will have one that doesn't work for but I have had good results so far.

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I've just got to ask this " if your dog won't jump-up on a tailgate how does he get acrossed a woven wire cattle fence ? " something to think about

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Originally posted by Mike_Flores
What on earth is that? I dont think we have them things round here

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last training session I had trying to teach a pup to load. had one pup on leash trying to teach him to load and the other pup just running around playing. when I turned to walk my pup away from the truck to try again the other pup jumped up in the truck and sat down on top of the box to get a better view to watch us ( never had worked with her). some dogs just seem to be smarter than others.

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Originally posted by goneblue
I've just got to ask this " if your dog won't jump-up on a tailgate how does he get acrossed a woven wire cattle fence ? " something to think about

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I agree with the backing in a low spot for a short period of time to get them used to it. Also a little priase can go a long way.

If it dont turn around and learn this easy task pretty quick I would cull it completely myself as the other tasks will probably not develop either. No need in hunting a stupid one. JMO

Cull a dog because it won't load....... I have had a few that were a little harder at learning, but, they all learned to load.

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I keep treats in the truck and toss one in the box if she's feeling lazy.

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