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Posted by Dbradbury3 on 04-17-2009 08:07 PM:

E Collars have you ever tried one on?

i know that there are different methods on training a hound , but personally i have never used a shocking collar and i don't intend on ever using one. now before everyone thinks i am a enviromentalist that is out to get people who abuse hounds your wrong in fact im not afraid to get after one with a switch , for those who use a collar, why and have you ever tried one on ,

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Posted by DOUG CHEEK on 04-17-2009 08:21 PM:

DAN-----I didn't know you were that fast ---to run a deer runner down and give it a good switching --lol lol lol lol

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Posted by mudman on 04-17-2009 08:35 PM:

ill pay good money to see that LOL........ i have tried one for a joke cranked it up an busted my self it doesnt feel good yeah there is your alls laugh but my dad always had the saying dont try it on your dog till you know how it feels well lets say its a usefull tool an will always have my respect LOL

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Posted by Dbradbury3 on 04-17-2009 08:45 PM:

doug how many good ones do you know that burned a deer up , and fell treed and had the meat haha, i would send don after what ever we were hunting

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Posted by patches9452 on 04-17-2009 08:54 PM:

tuff

i got two daughters who will hold it till it shuts down on level six......i aint that stupid.....think they took after their maw


Posted by CX3 on 04-17-2009 08:57 PM:

I dont use them either.



There was a guy I used to hunt with that would absolutely fry his dogs on a tri tronics on the highest level. He would hold the button down until the thing shut itself off and then do it again. His dog would just squall and make all kinds of racket. I told him one night after I got tired of that crap and said why dont you buzz yourself with that piece of crap. He put it on his hand, hit the button and it looked like somebody swithced him with a 2x4. He jumped and hollered like a little baby. It gave him a little more respect for it, he really didnt know how bad he was hurting his dog.

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Posted by on 04-17-2009 09:15 PM:

I have used them with every dog I have ever trained. It is a tool. I use it as a tool. I beep far more than I shock.


Posted by houndsound on 04-17-2009 09:15 PM:

I've never been hit by one..... but they're an effective tool that works great when used properly and that's why people use them. I've never ate dog food either but have no problem giving it to my dogs.

I have however had 50,000 volts pumped through me via a police tazer and can tell you that ain't no fun!

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Posted by Dbradbury3 on 04-17-2009 10:37 PM:

i guess what im trying to say is , using one is not necassary , i have hunted plenty of hounds and not once have i ever thought of using one.

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Posted by on 04-17-2009 10:40 PM:

Of course they are not nessessary. Hounds have been trained for hundreds of years without them.


Posted by Casey_Lee on 04-17-2009 10:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
Of course they are not nessessary. Hounds have been trained for hundreds of years without them.


But they sure are nice when used correctly!!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 04-17-2009 10:58 PM:

Re: E Collars have you ever tried one on?

quote:
Originally posted by Dbradbury3
i know that there are different methods on training a hound , but personally i have never used a shocking collar and i don't intend on ever using one. now before everyone thinks i am a enviromentalist that is out to get people who abuse hounds your wrong in fact im not afraid to get after one with a switch , for those who use a collar, why and have you ever tried one on ,
Oh well, Your missing out! I've never tried one on and dont need to..Have you ever let anyone beat the hell outta you with a switch?

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Posted by Dbradbury3 on 04-17-2009 11:16 PM:

I do more beating the side of my chap than i do the dog , pain isn't as intimidating as a noise and you only need to get there attention. most hounds know when they are wrong , they just need reminded they have a job to do,

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Posted by DOUG CHEEK on 04-17-2009 11:24 PM:

lol lol lol lol lol ----your dad just said where did he go wrong -----the switch never stop you ever ---lol lol lol lol lol

how many pups did PEANUT Have

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Posted by 1deadeye on 04-18-2009 02:32 AM:

When I bought mine. I held it in my hand and tried different settings. Never made it all the way. 20 out of 30 was it for me.
I'm a wuss. LOL

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Posted by BrandonZadina on 04-18-2009 03:01 AM:

Everyone trains differen't and everyone uses their training tools differen't as everyone knows, but I can get results right now with the tri-tronics, I have used it on my catahoula the last two years and when he sees the collar coming he literally throws his head into it, he knows it is time to work. The first time a cow bellars at him good luck stopping him without a little nick of the collar, it just makes for alot more enjoyable day. He works like a machine with it and a lunatic without. They have their place when they are needed.


Posted by mudman on 04-18-2009 03:19 AM:

Re: tuff

quote:
Originally posted by patches9452
i got two daughters who will hold it till it shuts down on level six......i aint that stupid.....think they took after their maw
can you post a video of this id love to see it

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Posted by croatankid on 04-18-2009 03:36 AM:

i put mine against my wrist just to be sure it was working. it was and it sure woke me up. i tried to get my ex-marine to try it but he chickened out.

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Posted by preacherblue on 04-18-2009 04:29 AM:

no
but knew some crazy guys
who would play shock collar poker
they were nuts

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Posted by Dbradbury3 on 04-18-2009 01:17 PM:

Doug she is four weeks along , how long till a female really starts to show doug? using them as a tool i understand , but when using it wrong you sure can burn one up in a hurry

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 04-18-2009 05:39 PM:

OK, I am a little confused. You admit there are different levels of using the switch, right?

Why can't there be different levels of using an e-collar? A low level that does not give you a response from a dog, or even the tone as Jim says is not much more than a tug on a lead.

It simply reminds the dog that you are there.

You are thinking only in terms of what you associate electricity with ... a nasty shock. E-collars do not have to mean a nasty shock.

Tools are simply tools. I don't juggle a chain saw and I don't hardly ever move my e-collar above level 2.

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Posted by patches9452 on 04-18-2009 05:51 PM:

Re: Re: tuff

quote:
Originally posted by mudman
can you post a video of this id love to see it
when i get home i'll see what i can do....stuck in new jersey for now


Posted by SFWALKER on 04-18-2009 07:23 PM:

I think waaaaayyyyy too many good dogs have been ruined with shocking collars. They can effective is used 100% correctly, but NOBODY knows exactly what their dogs is doing everytime. I know that I would have ruined mine if i used one. Many times when he was younger i caught myself extremely regretful that i didn't have an e-collar on him.... just about the time he locked the tree up with a coon.

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Posted by Mac1st on 04-18-2009 09:32 PM:

You won't ruin a dog shocking at the wrong time with an e-collar if you don't do it too much. I've fried several off of coon when I thought they were running or had caught something else. It might confuse them a little but they have always got over it pretty quick.


Posted by tx slick tree on 04-18-2009 09:56 PM:

alot depends on the dog. some dogs can be scolded off stuff some you just talk rough to and they listen. some tend to be more hard headed you can scold and talk all you want. as alot of people said E collars are a tool and when used correctly they do their job. you mentioned someone getting carried away with a E collar i have seen some get carried away with switches. i have trained dogs with and without E collars.


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