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training mistakes
What mistakes do you think that most people do that ruins their young dogs? Just list common mistakes that hunters should try to afford.
HANGING COON IN TREE`S FOR PUPS TO SEE TAKE A KID HUNTING
hunting a pup to hard when its still to young to handle it.
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To much sight in training.... Hanging to many coons or to many cage coons!!
I try strictly scent training as much as possible. You have to show them some to reinforce the scent, but make them use their nose before their eyes!!!
Also focusing to much on tree and not enough track!!
expect to much to soon, let um be a pup !!
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them with a trashey dog or a mean dog,the rest will come easy if they will make it,its got to be bread in them,,use live coon but turn it loose,cent drags get a lot of pups just running your track,,but if they are folling a real coon your tracks will not be there to run,,
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them with junk or dogs that you don't know. If you do this you're asking for your pup to run junk.
Praising them for treeing without first seeing the coon. Why praise a dog for quiting a track (treeing empty).
Giving the dogs the benefit of the doubt. If there's a doubt, there's usually a valid reason for it!
Many people train their pups to follow and tree with other dogs.
MMMMMEEEEE TTTTOOOOO dogs.
I better stop there.
Ill dogs probably ruin more pups than all else in my opion.
Most of the damage done by the things listed can be corrected, just smarter if you don't mess um up to start with
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electric fences will set them back.
To many caged coons and releasing when light out. dogs need to learn to use nose, not sight.
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Not having a handle on em before they start to hunt em...
overdoing caged coons and drags
-Leading a pup into a tree and shooting the coon out to him.
-never doing anything with the pup, then expecting it to go hunting and tree its 1st night in the woods.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lance Johnson
To much sight in training.... Hanging to many coons or to many cage coons!!
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I will agree with all of the above.....
And I'll add a few more. In today's day and age I think that training a young dog to tree before they learn to track is the biggest mistake that can be made.
In years past, we used to have to work hard at getting some dogs to tree, and harder to get them to stay treed.....not so much any more. A pup that can not or will not run a track is worthless, and that is why I believe that we have a slick treeing epidemic.....pups are taught that when all else fails....grab a tree a bark at it 140 times a minute.....someone will be along to scratch your ears and make excuses for you sooner or later.....
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Agree with all of the above...
-starting too young
-too much sight work, either drag or cage coon
-praising a dog for treeing when nothings there
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Originally posted by Oak Ridge
I will agree with all of the above.....
And I'll add a few more. In today's day and age I think that training a young dog to tree before they learn to track is the biggest mistake that can be made.
In years past, we used to have to work hard at getting some dogs to tree, and harder to get them to stay treed.....not so much any more. A pup that can not or will not run a track is worthless, and that is why I believe that we have a slick treeing epidemic.....pups are taught that when all else fails....grab a tree a bark at it 140 times a minute.....someone will be along to scratch your ears and make excuses for you sooner or later.....
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Tree Jacking...
made the mistake myself with my first hound by getting him all excited and slapping the tree to get him up on it just turned him into a tree jacking fool and that causes problems at the tree from landing on other dogs and starting a fight to falling a a stick and running the stick into them etc... wont make that mistake again if they want to sit on their butt and tree a few feet off the tree that is alot better than a jacking tree dog
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Handle every situation like a dog... If you can't eat it or screw it, pi$$ on it and walk away!
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Neve force a pup around a coon, dead or alive. I would rather make a drag for a short distance and let the pup locate the tree where it's hanging. Hunting a pup with an ill dog can ruin one. There is so many folks out their that goes through pup after pup and can't figure it out. If you can't catch your pup trainer getting after you pups but you never have a pup tree, change pup trainers.
i agree totally with the above.......sometimes we need to show patience with pups dont expect them to be great out of the gate it takes time and effort..
I think alot of Hounds get messed up, when people pet them up just because they are treed.
Ive seen Young Hounds tree on Bushes, and the handler pettin them up, for it.
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training a pup
Whatever you do dont put a young pup in a treeing contest at your hunts.Had a 6 month old dog treeing coons and was showing him at a hunt when some friends said ,put him in the treeing contest.Well I did and he won with 63 barks a minute.Man I was proud so I just kept putting him in and he kept on winning but stopped hunting coons and just started LOOKING for them.Took me one year to get him back to hunting for coons.Dont put a young dog in treeing contest unless you want to screw it up on hunting coons.I am new at coonhunting and didn't know any better.
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I must say i have to agree with every thing written above. now fellows lets practice what we preach. 
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