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Scratch Mentality
How many ways to get scratched that have nothing to do with misconduct or aggression issues...
I read the polls on getting rid of the squalling rule or the silent on track rule and it leaves me scratching my head. I see one major issue and that is those who look for and hope for a reason to scratch a cast member instead of beating them by out coondoging.
I have an idea, if you would like for cast to be more enjoyable get rid of the scratch mentality this kennel club suffers much to often from and encourage the passing of some of these changes.
If your concern is getting beat by someone who blew on a squaller or is hunting a silent dog you have a whole lot bigger issues to worry about.
I also read a comment about breed standards... if that is a concern maybe what should be addressed is that the typical show dog looks nothing like the dogs in the parking lot for the hunt not the other way around.
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SIC 'EM , ya'll know me I'll tree my dogs if they stay. LOL what you said was true that scratch'em is probably the main reason numbers are down , heck the youth hunts are way more fun.
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This is one of the most honest posts I seen on here. The mentality of UKC hunters to scratch a man is unreal. I love the other KC rules that says "Scratch as a last resort".
Hunters has a lot of time and investments going to hunts to get scratched and cheated out of other peoples desire to win at any cost. We should always try to resolve every issue with scratching being the last alternative.
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Y’all keep scratching everybody how am I going to give ( everybody) a blue ribbon and a dog box ?
Tarbaby
I can’t remember the last time a dog was scratched.
Well said Jen.
Re: Scratch Mentality
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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
maybe what should be addressed is that the typical show dog looks nothing like the dogs in the parking lot for the hunt not the other way around.
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This mentality is what keeps handlers in a cast they have no business continuing to turn loose in.
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quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
This mentality is what keeps handlers in a cast they have no business continuing to turn loose in.
quote:I believe he’s trying to say people enter dogs they know can’t win. Instead they try to get the ones that can win scratched.
Originally posted by yadkintar
Explain that one to me josh I didn’t get it. I was always taught to stay in until the end no matter what.
Tar
quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Explain that one to me josh I didn’t get it. I was always taught to stay in until the end no matter what.
Tar
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quote:
Originally posted by Roy Grant
Well said Jen.
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Seneca , MO
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Jen, I don't think that he is playing.
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Jen, I don't think that he is playing.
So, you aren't really a dumba** and you were just pretending to be one? I am confused.
I am getting to predictable I am going to have to shake sumpen looooooooose !!
Tarbaby
Re: Scratch Mentality
quote:
Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
How many ways to get scratched that have nothing to do with misconduct or aggression issues...
I read the polls on getting rid of the squalling rule or the silent on track rule and it leaves me scratching my head. I see one major issue and that is those who look for and hope for a reason to scratch a cast member instead of beating them by out coondoging.
I have an idea, if you would like for cast to be more enjoyable get rid of the scratch mentality this kennel club suffers much to often from and encourage the passing of some of these changes.
If your concern is getting beat by someone who blew on a squaller or is hunting a silent dog you have a whole lot bigger issues to worry about.
I also read a comment about breed standards... if that is a concern maybe what should be addressed is that the typical show dog looks nothing like the dogs in the parking lot for the hunt not the other way around.
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I pay my money I deserve same respect as the other 3 in the cast and I’m playing till the end, you do something stupid and get scratched you loose, don’t matter if All dogs are still in the game or not you could still get scratched.
I was subjected to this very same mentality a few years back and I still look back at it and laugh and at the same time get peed off.
Most won't take the time to read this but if you are bored and want a good laugh here it is.
4 dog cast. 2 dogs are treed together and 2 dogs are about 2 trees down the fence row together. I suggested we shine the trees at the same time but the judge said no shine them with separate times. We shinned there tree the whole 10 mins and as soon as the 10 was up I asked everyone to come stand by me. Well I assumed all were behind me and we all started shinning the tree. As soon as I hollered I got the coon the judge came running out of the corn field right up to me and asked what I was doing??? I replied with I got the coon right here you see it? He then told me I was scratched for shinning before he said I could. I busted out laughing but then realized he was actually serious. I questioned it and took it back to the club. The MOH upheld the scratch and the big bad redbone man got him a cheap win I later found out. He was only down 425 in the first 18 minutes of the cast to me
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quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
I pay my money I deserve same respect as the other 3 in the cast and I’m playing till the end, you do something stupid and get scratched you loose, don’t matter if All dogs are still in the game or not you could still get scratched.
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quote:
Originally posted by gpent24
I bet you are fun to hunt with lol.
I never been scratched or wrote up my whole life buuuuut my dogs have been scratched a bunch darned possums lol.
Tar
I still don't know why possum is a scratching offense. If a dog can overcome something like that and win, he must one heck of a coon dog.
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quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
I pay my money I deserve same respect as the other 3 in the cast and I’m playing till the end, you do something stupid and get scratched you loose, don’t matter if All dogs are still in the game or not you could still get scratched.
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Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
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*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
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There is one thing I was told over 50 years ago the hunt is not over till the time has run out stay in unless you minused out.
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